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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 08:39 PM Dec 2013

David Cameron takes his biggest gamble yet as he gets tough on Europe.

David Cameron raised the stakes in his fight to curb migration by threatening to veto the admission of new members to the European Union unless they accept tough new controls on their citizens moving to the UK.

The Prime Minister’s dramatic move fuelled tensions with other EU nations at the end of a two-day summit in Brussels. In yesterday’s session, Mr Cameron was greeted with silence when he called for the need for stricter transitional controls on the right to work throughout the EU when countries join the 28-nation bloc in future.

He went further at a press conference, revealing that he would be prepared to block the entry of new member states unless stricter “freedom of movement” controls were imposed. He said: “I would make the point that on new accessions, they are by unanimity so they don’t happen unless everybody agrees. So you do have a real opportunity, irrespective of treaty change, to insist on a different approach.”

Initially, the Prime Minister will demand tough safeguards on migration in talks over the next few years on a new treaty to entrench fiscal discipline in the eurozone. If he succeeds, it could be a key selling point in the in/out referendum on Europe he has promised in 2017, when he intends to recommend continued membership.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-takes-his-biggest-gamble-yet-as-he-gets-tough-on-europe-9018899.html

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David Cameron takes his biggest gamble yet as he gets tough on Europe. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Dec 2013 OP
Can Someone enlighten me? mackerel Dec 2013 #1
Its the manner in which its expressed which overstates the situation. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #2
Thanks mackerel Dec 2013 #3

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
1. Can Someone enlighten me?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:43 AM
Dec 2013

An uber conservative friend of mine makes this claim:

Next week the floodgates open to the citizens of Romania and Bulgaria to come to the Uk with absolutely no restrictions whatsoever.
So, here they come,, the doors opened to 29million people, to come leech off the health system, education and benefits....and to deliver us thousands more thieves, beggars and unwanted immigrants into the country.
More EU benefits, eh?

Thats an additional 29 million, added to the already open doors. they are welcomed by the traitorous politicians, all in hoc to their EU pensions....the majority of the population doesn't want them at all.
The country has no need for an other influx of immigrants, most especially Roma thieves and beggars, but they'll arrive no doubt to soak up the benefits and free health care,


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I've asked him many times to provide me sources for his claim but the above is what I keep getting.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. Its the manner in which its expressed which overstates the situation.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:38 AM
Dec 2013

The issues play on the following :

If, as we've always had going back to the 1950's, there are substantial waiting lists for local corporation / council housing then should outsiders jump the queue.

If as is the case our NHS is cracking at the seams then can it be loaded further with regard to services provided. The model for our NHS is and always has been based on taxes paid by both employers and employees being sufficient to cover both our working population and those not eligible or unable to pay within our own population.

Why should anyone be able to claim higher benefits that obtainable in their own country so that in some instances they can forward the funds back to their own country.

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As an aside the only Bulgarians I ever come across at present operate the car washing sites at our supermarkets etc. From talking to them most seem to have their way here via Ireland. Romanians do have a reputation for both begging on London's streets and highly organised pick pocket gangs too - that is not to say they are representative of Romanians in general.

I came across an article recently covering the fact that Germany, Austria and others having existing rules for expelling EU citizens from elsewhere who cannot financially support themselves so its not just the UK kicking up on this issue.

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