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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:18 AM

Private firms 'to take on probation services'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20953644

An overhaul of the probation service in England and Wales will see low-risk offenders supervised by the private sector, the government is to announce.

Justice Secretary Chris Grayling will unveil plans to let security firms and voluntary groups manage probation on a "payment by results" basis.

Prisoners serving short sentences will also have to undertake compulsory rehabilitation for the first time.

Most released prisoners and people serving community sentences are managed by the public sector probation service - provided by 35 trusts across England and Wales. But under the Ministry of Justice's (MoJ) proposals, responsibility for monitoring some 200,000 medium- and low-risk offenders will transfer to the private sector.

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T_i_B Jan 2013 OP
djean111 Jan 2013 #1
non sociopath skin Jan 2013 #2
Matilda Jan 2013 #3
T_i_B Jan 2013 #4
Matilda Jan 2013 #6
LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #5

Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:52 AM

1. The Salavation Army has a lock on that stuff in some Florida counties.

They make a pretty good profit from it.
They also make a profit from compulsory rehabilitation classes.
Once something is privatized, it becomes a money pit. In my opinion.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:30 PM

2. Is there anything that the spivs of the private sector don't think they can make cash from?

More moolah for Tory Party donors ... and ultimately for the Tory Party.

The Skin

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:54 PM

3. I'm surprised Serco doesn't already have the contract.

They've taken over so much in Australia already - prisons, migrant detention centres, army services, hospitals - and as they're a British company, I'd have thought they'd already have their finger in the pie.

I find it pretty scary - a private firm is running so much of the infrastructure that, as a socialist, I think should be run by the government (i.e. the people). I'm afraid that one day the world will wake up and find that Serco is the world power.

Read this manifesto from their CEO, David Poole:

"Serco’s mission in life is to be the world's greatest service company. So what we are trying to do is to make that service offer be a bit broader. Traditionally Serco has focussed on public sector services - and also on front-line services. What we are looking to do is continue to grow Serco’s capabilities into the middle and back office which are also areas where our clients need more help. And we are also shifting the emphasis towards the private sector. So just trying to get the balance right- that was some of the strategic rationale behind our acquisitions.

"Now if you look at what we did in acquiring Intelenet - which is a large leading global pure-play Indian organisation with huge industrialisation - and combine that with the other acquisitions we made - for example The Listening Company in the UK which is a very-high-end, very sophisticated customer management service provider very intimate with its customers - and then combine all that with the very trusted brand of Serco you create a really powerful proposition. So actually we are now Europe’s largest BPO provider."

http://www.outsourcemagazine.co.uk/articles/item/4509-qaa-david-poole-ceo-serco-global-services-uk-a-europe


The profit motive shouldn't ever come into any area where people's welfare is of prime importance. And that includes criminals.

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Response to Matilda (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:12 AM

4. Unlike other firms in the same field....

....Serco aren't a household name. Partly because they aren't run by somebody as high profile as Emma Harrison, and partly because they've managed to ensure that they haven't had any dirty linen washed in public such as A4E's scandals or G4S's Olympic cock-up.

There are some good bits in the government's proposals, but there is a concern that some of the proposed arrangements could be as disasterous as those for the government's "workfare" scheme.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:00 PM

6. I'm rather surprised that they have such a low profile.

In Australia, they have rather a murky reputation, and there is a Facebook site called "Serco Watch", which reports on breaches of safety, etc.

Only last year there was a high-profile case where a prisoner had died of a heart attack while being transported in searing heat across central Australia. It was found that there was no communications system between the prisoners and the drivers, so the drivers couldn't hear the other prisoners calling for help when the man collapsed. Yet Serco, who ran the operation, were never indicted for their negligence.

There have also been a number of accusations that the officers who staff the detention centres for illegal immigrants are poorly trained and inadequate in numbers, with the result that when detainees are suffering genuine depression and illness, they are too often ignored. Again, Serco is responsible, yet they are never called to account by the government, and they are given more and more contracts.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:31 PM

5. If we don't watch out...

this government will take us back to the days of Jonathan Wild and the 'thief-takers'.

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