Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:38 PM
Ken Burch (31,245 posts)
Have Badger State DU'ers come up with an explanation for this?Last edited Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
In order to get the results you folks had in the last election, a fairly sizeable number of voters would seemingly have to have voted to:
1)Re-elect President Obama; 2)elect Tammy Baldwin to the U.S. Senate; AND 3)elect or possibly re-elect one or maybe two Walkerite crazyheads to the Assembly or State Senate. Any theories as to what sort of people would have voted that way? It's hard to picture that combination of choices existing inside the same skulls of anyone.
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12 replies, 1232 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Ken Burch | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| ladym55 | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| Ken Burch | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| LTR | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| bobthedrummer | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| yourout | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| Pharaoh | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| Bonduel | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| elfin | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| HereSince1628 | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| sybylla | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| midnight | Dec 2012 | #10 |
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:46 PM
ladym55 (1,670 posts)
1. It's likely gerrymandering
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That was the case in Ohio. Rethuglicans carefully drew districts that allowed them to control the state legislature. They also sent mostly Rethugs back to Congress even though more Democratic ballots were cast than Republican.
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Response to ladym55 (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:48 PM
Ken Burch (31,245 posts)
2. Hopefully, if Obama gets to fill some more judicial vacancies
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those lines can be thrown out in court.
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Response to ladym55 (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:10 PM
LTR (13,040 posts)
7. Lots of gerrymandering
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The state reps and senators in my district have totally changed. Too bad, since I was looking forward to voting against the tea bag hag that used to represent me.
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Response to ladym55 (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:48 PM
bobthedrummer (23,245 posts)
12. Also no more straight party ballots, possible corrupted software (like Diebold) + corrupted locals
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n/t
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,575 posts)
3. Easy. Both Baldwin & Obama were elected in a statewide vote.
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Last edited Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:51 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) State Senators & Assemblycritters were elected from gerrymandered districts. A majority of the votes cast for state offices were for Democrats, but the Dem votes were sorta "caged"; the Dems who won did so by overwhelming majorities, while the Republicans were elected by closer votes. That's how gerrymandering works.
Here's a spreadsheet I put together for the US HOuse of Representatives that shows what happened: ![]() |
Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #3)
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:10 AM
yourout (6,144 posts)
8. The 2010 election......the gift that just keeps giving.
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It is going to take at least a decade to take back the State Houses.
And if Walker gets his way with VoterID and killing same day registration it may be much longer. |
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:54 PM
Pharaoh (6,284 posts)
4. VOTE STEALING
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Walker won the recall (not)
then we elect Baldwin and Obama. And the math don't add up. |
Response to Pharaoh (Reply #4)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:58 AM
Bonduel (53 posts)
11. I hated the outcome of the recall, but how was it stolen?
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:07 PM
elfin (4,282 posts)
5. Gerrymandering plus rural count for some state local results
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Then there are the metro and collegiate contingents that account for statewide majorities in national elections.
We are schizo and it is heartbreaking in the land of Muir, Leopold, Nelson and Lafollette that our other big name politician, Joe McCarthy, has like-minded descendants still barging into our electoral results and finding favor in many pockets of the state. The partial, yet strong, success of the Regressives is due to the McCarthy residue fertilized with plentiful Koch Cash and latent racism due to our ethnic (German, Polish) heritage that still flavors politics, though receding as the elders and their prejudices pass. Those prejudices remain, but in a more "dog whistle" form, such as exurban, private religiously schooled Ryan complaining about the "urban" turnout. It is a hunting state that seems to equate the second amendment with the hunting culture - a HUGE topic here at election time. We once were the home of "Sewer Socialists" who took care of infrastructure and the Commons with tolerance for all. Now we are squandering that legacy with the likes of Walker. And, of course, Kindergarten was started here and now the state is taking the wrecking ball to Public Education. I must stop - a sad topic. |
Response to elfin (Reply #5)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:46 PM
HereSince1628 (26,670 posts)
6. I agree, it's really hard to be here if you have a memory of what was
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:48 AM
sybylla (7,253 posts)
9. Low information voter schizophrenia helped as well.
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I live in a rural area with poor media coverage. No daily newspapers, 5 weeklies struggling to survive in a polarized world. High School AV club doing the TV news.
There were a stunning number of voters in my county who filled in circles for top ticket Dems and state legislative Pukes. Neighboring county, too, even with a daily Gannett rag kissing puke ass. Door knocking has completely proven itself a waste of time in the last two years. With the Gerrymandering we're stuck with now, a puke will have to get caught screwing a pooch to get unelected, and even then it's doubtful in some districts. The good news is that Wanker is probably shitting bricks about now. Obama and Baldwin won by good margins against candidates as sleazy and nasty as he is. If he hasn't figured out the tide is turning, he ain't too bright. |
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:55 PM
midnight (23,476 posts)
10. I asked the same question, and a possible explanation was given about the Republicans
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redistricting maps...
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