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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:38 PM

Have Badger State DU'ers come up with an explanation for this?

In order to get the results you folks had in the last election, a fairly sizeable number of voters would seemingly have to have voted to:

1)Re-elect President Obama;

2)elect Tammy Baldwin to the U.S. Senate;

AND

3)elect or possibly re-elect one or maybe two Walkerite crazyheads to the Assembly or State Senate.

Any theories as to what sort of people would have voted that way? It's hard to picture that combination of choices existing inside the same skulls of anyone.


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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:46 PM

1. It's likely gerrymandering

That was the case in Ohio. Rethuglicans carefully drew districts that allowed them to control the state legislature. They also sent mostly Rethugs back to Congress even though more Democratic ballots were cast than Republican.

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Response to ladym55 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:48 PM

2. Hopefully, if Obama gets to fill some more judicial vacancies

those lines can be thrown out in court.

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Response to ladym55 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:10 PM

7. Lots of gerrymandering

The state reps and senators in my district have totally changed. Too bad, since I was looking forward to voting against the tea bag hag that used to represent me.

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Response to ladym55 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:48 PM

12. Also no more straight party ballots, possible corrupted software (like Diebold) + corrupted locals

n/t

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:50 PM

3. Easy. Both Baldwin & Obama were elected in a statewide vote.

State Senators & Assemblycritters were elected from gerrymandered districts. A majority of the votes cast for state offices were for Democrats, but the Dem votes were sorta "caged"; the Dems who won did so by overwhelming majorities, while the Republicans were elected by closer votes. That's how gerrymandering works.

Here's a spreadsheet I put together for the US HOuse of Representatives that shows what happened:

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:10 AM

8. The 2010 election......the gift that just keeps giving.

It is going to take at least a decade to take back the State Houses.

And if Walker gets his way with VoterID and killing same day registration it may be much longer.

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:54 PM

4. VOTE STEALING

Walker won the recall (not)

then we elect Baldwin and Obama. And the math don't add up.

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Response to Pharaoh (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:58 AM

11. I hated the outcome of the recall, but how was it stolen?

 

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:07 PM

5. Gerrymandering plus rural count for some state local results

Then there are the metro and collegiate contingents that account for statewide majorities in national elections.

We are schizo and it is heartbreaking in the land of Muir, Leopold, Nelson and Lafollette that our other big name politician, Joe McCarthy, has like-minded descendants still barging into our electoral results and finding favor in many pockets of the state.

The partial, yet strong, success of the Regressives is due to the McCarthy residue fertilized with plentiful Koch Cash and latent racism due to our ethnic (German, Polish) heritage that still flavors politics, though receding as the elders and their prejudices pass.

Those prejudices remain, but in a more "dog whistle" form, such as exurban, private religiously schooled Ryan complaining about the "urban" turnout.

It is a hunting state that seems to equate the second amendment with the hunting culture - a HUGE topic here at election time.

We once were the home of "Sewer Socialists" who took care of infrastructure and the Commons with tolerance for all. Now we are squandering that legacy with the likes of Walker.

And, of course, Kindergarten was started here and now the state is taking the wrecking ball to Public Education.

I must stop - a sad topic.

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Response to elfin (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:46 PM

6. I agree, it's really hard to be here if you have a memory of what was

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:48 AM

9. Low information voter schizophrenia helped as well.

I live in a rural area with poor media coverage. No daily newspapers, 5 weeklies struggling to survive in a polarized world. High School AV club doing the TV news.

There were a stunning number of voters in my county who filled in circles for top ticket Dems and state legislative Pukes. Neighboring county, too, even with a daily Gannett rag kissing puke ass.

Door knocking has completely proven itself a waste of time in the last two years. With the Gerrymandering we're stuck with now, a puke will have to get caught screwing a pooch to get unelected, and even then it's doubtful in some districts.

The good news is that Wanker is probably shitting bricks about now. Obama and Baldwin won by good margins against candidates as sleazy and nasty as he is. If he hasn't figured out the tide is turning, he ain't too bright.

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:55 PM

10. I asked the same question, and a possible explanation was given about the Republicans

redistricting maps...

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