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Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:14 PM

Wisconsin uses mostly paper ballots, but don't bother to count any, but tallied

by inaccurate opti scan computers. And not a single computer is checked for accuracy.






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Reply Wisconsin uses mostly paper ballots, but don't bother to count any, but tallied (Original post)
midnight Jun 2012 OP
AndyA Jun 2012 #1
sybylla Jun 2012 #2
midnight Jun 2012 #5
dragonlady Jun 2012 #3
midnight Jun 2012 #6
hg4 Jun 2012 #4
midnight Jun 2012 #7

Response to midnight (Original post)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:20 PM

1. Astounding, isn't it?

You'd think computers never make mistakes, nor can they be compromised. This has been a concern at least since what? the 2000 elections? Yet there's still no requirement to manually check ballots, and in some instances there's no paper trail to even check if someone wanted to.

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Response to midnight (Original post)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:09 PM

2. And yet in recounts, the optiscan proves to be pretty accurate in WI

I'm not just talking about the SC recount last year (though it came out far more accurately than I had predicted) but in every local recount I've ever observed in.

If every time we have an election the electoral sky is falling, who will believe us when the fraudulent shit really hits the fan?

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Response to sybylla (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:17 AM

5. Look at this... And I'm curious how many this last cycle were provided these machines...

Sequoia-Dominion Ballot Marking Device with hole

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Response to midnight (Original post)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:56 PM

3. There are some random audits of voting machines

After every November general election the GAB selects 50 reporting units and each of those municipalities must do a hand recount (procedure similar to the Supreme Court recount). These units are selected by random draw and the GAB selects which offices on the ballot are to be recounted. Members of the public may be present. The GAB also selects different units up to 1% of the total in the state for an audit that it conducts.

County boards of canvassers may also conduct their own audits or hand recounts if they see fit.

http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/voting_system_audit_procedures_pdf_16346.pdf

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Response to dragonlady (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:24 AM

6. I wonder what the history of this random audit looks like?

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Response to midnight (Original post)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

4. we should demand open source software/firmware in opti-scan system

AFAIK it's in a proprietary data format, possibly encrypted, and in battery backed RAM. In order to audit the RAM
from the scanner you would have to pay manufacturer to generate readable dump of the votes. This is unacceptable.

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Response to hg4 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 02:27 PM

7. Hands down the time has come to no longer just trust those who say everything works...

I'm not a computer person but I have come to believe without access to the source code we are all nothing more than 80 year old Ramona's from Waukesha.. We have no idea how these computers are actually communicating...

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