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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:42 PM

Excuse me, but what the fock is this?

I went looking for official ward by ward results of the recall election, and when I went to the GAB website for them, I see this under 'June 5 Recall':

Election Results
Wisconsin does not have official election night results. The Associated Press gathers unofficial results, which are reported on newspaper, TV and radio websites.
http://gab.wi.gov/node/1648


Am I in crazy town? No official results? They have detailed breakdowns of the May 8 primary available right there, but there are no official results for election night?

Anyone know if they are they going to show up later, or what?

Did I read this wrong?

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Response to htuttle (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:45 PM

1. It's a secret

Some powerful white men in suits have the information you have inquired about, and they will let you know what they decide to release once they decide you are ready to to see it.

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Response to htuttle (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:49 PM

2. Obviously the election was stolen. Americans would never reject the Democrat vision.

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Response to iconocrastic (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:49 AM

13. Not having legally-protected public information available is not partisan

It is the way Americans vote. This information should be available for all to see and has in the past, been available on election night or the next day. And a typo: It's "Democratic" vision.

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Response to htuttle (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:52 PM

3. Scroll down the page. There is a link to official results.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:59 PM

4. Those are for the May 8 primary, not the actual recall election on June 5

I saw the same thing at first, then realized that they were from last month.

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Response to htuttle (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:07 PM

5. Good catch.

I would assume that there are going to be official results available to the public at some point. I have no clue how long the process takes.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:16 PM

7. I covered small town politics for about a year for a major newspaper

The "official" might mean that the canvass hasn't happened yet and the results, while accurate, may not be certified and therefore official. At least in my small suburb, that took almost a week

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:12 AM

11. I was entering a small suburb around 3:00 this afternoon when a large white truck labeled paper

shredder was leaving.... Made me real concerned....

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Response to htuttle (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:11 PM

6. since the election was not close enough to trigger a recount

the actual results will never be seen.
then they aren't even in recounts, when the counting was done by computers.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:22 PM

9. I don't get what you're talking about.

I participated in the SC recount last year. Nothing was counted by computers. In the case of touchscreen voting machines, each vote had to be hand counted. In the case of optiscan, we stood right over the shoulder of the recount officials and with a clicker counted the votes for Kloppenburg as they ran through the counter. They matched every time and kicked out potentially bad ballots for hand counting.

I know it's hard for far too many people to believe, but in this state, some of us actually got to see the "results" you are saying no one ever gets to see.

And the only response anyone ever seems to have is "who's paying you to say that?"

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Response to sybylla (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:25 AM

12. i believe you. each state has different procedures and

ways of verifying results.
there are some voting machines that just print totals and have no way to recall individual votes.

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Response to htuttle (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:17 PM

8. That's because in WI the results aren't "official" until after the canvass.

Unofficial=Uncertified in this case.

We only ever get unofficial, uncertified results on election night.

It used to be the canvass was completed 2-3 days after the vote and the results of the canvass certified as official at that time.

Now that absentees are accepted through the Friday after election day, I expect the canvass and the "official" results will be certified some time next week.

The canvass, especially statewide canvasses of the election, almost always finds some discrepancies - just like when we recounted the SC race last year. The election day procedures are reviewed, precincts are accounted for and tallies are checked and results are corrected before they become official.


Edited to add that this year, the official results will include an increase in results due to post election day absentee ballots.

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Response to sybylla (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:00 AM

10. You may have to repost this in all caps

before they get it. You are most certainly right! TY!

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