Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:05 PM
Scuba (26,677 posts)
Wisconsin: My predictions for tomorrow.Last edited Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:06 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
In the 16 months since Scott Walker was sworn in as Governor of Wisconsin, there has been a sea change here, an awakening of the decent, honest People who simply refused to allow his raping of our State continue. They may have joined the fray because of Walker's attack on collective bargaining, or his attacks on education, healthcare, women's rights or perhaps the environment. Or maybe it was the corruption that caused them to see the light.
But see the light they have. They know what this fight is about. They know that the right wing is trying to use Wisconsin as yeast for their awful infection. They're trying to dismantle democracy, and it's plain as your face. They have made it harder to work, harder to get healthcare, harder to educate your children, harder to care for your parents. They have made it harder to vote. They have, with supreme arrogance, flaunted their ugliness. While the outcome of this historic event is uncertain, I will stick my neck out on the following: ---There will some kind of election screwup in Waukesha, Washington or Outagamie County, despite the best efforts of PeaceNikki and others. ---There will be incidents of voter intimidation and ugliness in Milwaukee, and elsewhere in the State. ---Democrats will win two or more of the four State Senate seats up for grabs, giving them control of that chamber (only one win is needed). ---Tom Barrett will beat Scott Walker with a nice margin. The "free press" will be shocked. Walker will cry foul and try to tie things up as long as he can. In the end, he will be out on his ass, awaiting indictment. Thanks to each and every one of you who has helped in large or small ways. The good People of Wisconsin appreciate your support. Together, we are making this happen. Scuba (seen Friday at the Concert/Rally in Madison: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10843061 )
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| Scuba | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| shcrane71 | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| CrispyQ | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| Gothmog | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| madrchsod | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| Old and In the Way | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| DumbBassRepublicans | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| deutsey | Jun 2012 | #38 | |
| hrmjustin | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| madashelltoo | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| berni_mccoy | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| alterfurz | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| lastlib | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
| zbdent | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| Plucketeer | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| Cleita | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| abelenkpe | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| a kennedy | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| tabatha | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| PlanetBev | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| Jimbo S | Jun 2012 | #30 | |
| geardaddy | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| WillParkinson | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| liberal from boston | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| lastlib | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| onlyadream | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
| AllyCat | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| cleansweeper2 | Jun 2012 | #25 | |
| pacalo | Jun 2012 | #26 | |
| bvar22 | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| TxVietVet | Jun 2012 | #28 | |
| progress2k12nbynd | Jun 2012 | #29 | |
| Jimbo S | Jun 2012 | #31 | |
| Samantha | Jun 2012 | #32 | |
| Lifelong Protester | Jun 2012 | #33 | |
| Iwillnevergiveup | Jun 2012 | #34 | |
| Scuba | Jun 2012 | #37 | |
| freshwest | Jun 2012 | #35 | |
| onethatcares | Jun 2012 | #36 | |
| eowyn_of_rohan | Jun 2012 | #39 | |
| BlueIris | Jun 2012 | #40 | |
| ewagner | Jun 2012 | #41 | |
| myrna minx | Jun 2012 | #42 | |
| kag | Jun 2012 | #43 | |
| corkhead | Jun 2012 | #44 | |
| Old Codger | Jun 2012 | #45 | |
| Domingo Tavella | Jun 2012 | #46 | |
| Scuba | Jun 2012 | #47 | |
| Domingo Tavella | Jun 2012 | #51 | |
| Scuba | Jun 2012 | #52 | |
| L. Coyote | Jun 2012 | #48 | |
| AllyCat | Jun 2012 | #49 | |
| sonias | Jun 2012 | #50 | |
| Rectangle | Jun 2012 | #53 |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:07 PM
shcrane71 (1,706 posts)
1. Love that sign...
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Thanks so much Scuba!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:11 PM
CrispyQ (16,024 posts)
2. Damn! That sign is fab!!
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I hope you're right, Scuba!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:11 PM
Gothmog (4,431 posts)
3. I hope that your predictions come true
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I also love your sign
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:12 PM
madrchsod (55,708 posts)
4. great picture!
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i`m thinking about 2-5%.
what ever the outcome tomorrow.........everyone who worked on the recall should feel proud of what they have done. |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:19 PM
Old and In the Way (36,254 posts)
5. Best of luck...great post!
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For the life of me, I can't understand why it's even close. Yeah, there's obviously a ton of money that the Right is spending, marianating the Wisconscin electorate in their anti-Democratic propaganda. But that very influx of money ought to be reason enough for the bottom 95% there to understand that the Wisc. Republican Party is not working in their interests. I truly hope that Democrats/progressives/liberals/Independents are energized and can send these criminals an overwhelming message that the Republican agenda for this country stops in Wisconsin.
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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #5)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:44 PM
DumbBassRepublicans (144 posts)
20. I AGREE 100%
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You are ABSOLUTELY correct, Old and in the Way.. (LOL... I AM old, and in the way...)
I don't understand why the recall effort isn't 20 - 30 points ahead..??!! BIG MONEY has had that much influence, I guess.... Sad, really sad. If walker wins, we'll NEVER here the end of it. And that will be just the beginning of a nationwide campaign against unions, women, minorities, etc. (as if that hasn't STARTED already....??!!) I can't believe President Obama hasn't shown up there....??!! Well, maybe we'll pull it out, anyway.... GOOD LUCK WISCONSIN RECALL SUPPORTERS...!!!!! |
Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #5)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:09 AM
deutsey (16,784 posts)
38. I'm wondering the same thing
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Last edited Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:10 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Too many Americans have been conditioned to see themselves as consumers rather than citizens, I guess. If you're a consumer, the interests of wealth impresses you because for a consumer money=power; if you're a citizen, the interests of the commonwealth defines who you are and voting with others to support the common good=power.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:26 PM
hrmjustin (8,852 posts)
6. From your lips to the voters ears.n/t
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:27 PM
madashelltoo (701 posts)
7. Prayer Helps, and
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I'm sending up plenty for you, Wisconsin. Check him (Walker) off!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:59 PM
berni_mccoy (17,512 posts)
8. Great Sign. Need to add OBL to that...
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:06 PM
alterfurz (1,052 posts)
9. eviction, then conviction!
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first the pink slip, then the orange jumpsuit!
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Response to alterfurz (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:53 PM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
22. or BOTH!! (fingers crossed!!)
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:09 PM
zbdent (34,520 posts)
10. "liberally-biased media" will likely state it like this:
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Walker loses: "Scott Walker fought a gallant, but ultimately, futile close battle ..."
Walker wins: "Embattled governor Scott Walker was victorious in a vicious battle which nearly destroyed his tenure ..." Just a guess ... |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:16 PM
Plucketeer (6,267 posts)
11. Lovin' that sign
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Also lovin' that Walkers days as a public servant are just about over!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:17 PM
Cleita (64,445 posts)
12. Keeping Wisconsin in my thoughts through tomorrow.
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Perhaps positive thinking will bring a positive outcome.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:27 PM
abelenkpe (7,110 posts)
13. Hope so! :) nt
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:27 PM
a kennedy (7,020 posts)
14. A W E S O M E sign......
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thank you for ALL you and the dedicated Wisconsinites have done. Bravo.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:38 PM
tabatha (18,795 posts)
15. Never before have I hoped so much that a prediction come true as yours.
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And the sign is awesome. It has been my contention that the Kochs are trending this country to --- all the money at the top, authoritarian corruption and cheating, everyone else badly paid and slaves - like Gaddafi's, Mubarak's and Assad's rules.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:14 PM
PlanetBev (2,456 posts)
16. I'm hearing that Republicans are more enthusiastic than Democrats about voting in the recall
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What the hell?
Am I supposed to believe that Wisconsin Democrats like an anti-choice, union-busting corporate tool who is dedicated to turning America into a fiefdom? Please tell me I'm hearing wrong... |
Response to PlanetBev (Reply #16)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jimbo S (1,890 posts)
30. It's true
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Scott Walker is the Tea Party rock star. Similar to Obama four years ago.
This election is not so much Walker vs Barrett, but more like Walker vs. Anyone-But-Walker. Similar to 2004 when it was Bush vs ABB, and we know how that turned out. |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:22 PM
geardaddy (14,310 posts)
17. I so hope you're right!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:25 PM
WillParkinson (16,116 posts)
18. Keeping my fingers crossed...
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Best of luck to all of us in Wisconsin!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:29 PM
liberal from boston (216 posts)
19. Wisconsin is Awesome!!!
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Prayers and thoughts tomorrow for victory & Walker will be recalled!!! Wisconsin you are an inspiration to all Americans!!! |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:51 PM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
21. We cannot thank you all enough for what you have done
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Truly, I believe we owe you Wisconsinites and others who have worked so hard to bring about the victory we're anticipating tomorrow--we owe you everything!! Your tireless efforts will save millions of Americans, not just Wisconsinites, a chance at a decent future. A brighter day is coming, and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts!!
P.S. LOVE that sign!!! |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:57 PM
onlyadream (1,136 posts)
23. I hope you're right
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I'm going to be holding my breath all day tomorrow! From what I read today, Walker is leading in more polls than not, and that makes me very nervous. Hopefully it's just BS.
BTW, love the sign. |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:24 PM
AllyCat (7,514 posts)
24. I like. I hope. I want.:
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I work. I talk. I vote. Make it so Number 1
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:29 PM
cleansweeper2 (4 posts)
25. From NC To Ya'll folks up there in Wisconsin !
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Best of luck to ya !! Repub's are making it hard on the teachers down here too,but this being a "Right to Work" state, makes it hard for them to fight..
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:11 PM
bvar22 (29,502 posts)
27. Make it so!
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I am visualizing this victory with you.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:43 PM
TxVietVet (1,297 posts)
28. I'm sure the hate talkers on Wisconsin radio are putting out huge packs of lies about Barrett.
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I lived in Wisconsin for over 20 years. The way to change things in Wisconsin is to shut down the hate talkers like butthead Belling and Charlie "the adulterer" Sikes.
My union brothers would listen to those clowns and believe every lie they spewed out. The also loved druggie limbaugh. I was an active supporter of progressive Democrats in Wisconsin. I left when Wanker was elected. I believe actions by the conservanazis in Waukesha County gave Wanker the election. Good luck, Wisconsin. If Barrett loses, the criminal Wanker will unleash more conservanzis plans to destroy all your jobs. Hey, don't look at me. I have never, ever voted for a conservanazi. I support Democratic candidates, but not the Democratic National Party. Now you see why. The party wouldn't help Barrett or the people of Wisconsin. A f*ckin' shame. |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:50 PM
progress2k12nbynd (221 posts)
29. I'll add one more...
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No matter who wins, the other side will claim it was stolen. It wouldn't be an American election without that anymore.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:18 AM
Jimbo S (1,890 posts)
31. My prediction
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Unfortunately, I think it's Walker by three points. A narrower victory than 2010. But, I've been pleasantly surprised before. I didn't think 540,000 sigs would be collected after a one year wait (we got 950,000). So who knows what happens Tuesday?
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:34 AM
Samantha (5,994 posts)
32. I think your prediction is pretty close (I am sticking my neck out as well!)
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but I am not sure Barrett will win by a wide margin. I believe he can; I just do not feel that confident he will. I think maybe a 3 point margin. But absolutely nothing would surprise me, even a 7 to 10 point margin.
I don't know why, but I have been thinking the Dems would win two of the contests and retake control. I believe this will happen, and that alone would be magnificent because if we are wrong about a Barrett win, just taking two of those Republican seats can change the control factor. So I will end praying you are correct, and I do hope your thoughts about the margin of a Barrett win are correct, and that my statement is no so much so.... Sam |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:37 AM
Lifelong Protester (4,777 posts)
33. Thanks, Scuba
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for all of your hard work. Love the sign!
Will think of all my fellow DUers tomorrow night, and you, of course, as a poster who's OPs I always click open! |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:25 AM
Iwillnevergiveup (5,806 posts)
34. Scuba - a question
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Is that YOU in the photo? Hopeful, beautiful young woman.
K&R for her, for the sign, for victory in Wisconsin. |
Response to Iwillnevergiveup (Reply #34)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:32 AM
Scuba (26,677 posts)
37. I'm not beautiful, young or a woman. Hopeful, yes, the rest no.
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:01 AM
freshwest (31,294 posts)
35. So wonderful! Thanks for the report.... And all you're doing!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:22 AM
onethatcares (6,631 posts)
36. well, that can't happen,
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the msn homepage says effort to oust walker is fading,:
My best wishes and thoughts to Wisconsin today, GO BADGERS> |
Response to onethatcares (Reply #36)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:51 AM
eowyn_of_rohan (5,842 posts)
39. effort to oust Walker is fading? Don't believe their propaganda
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Thank you for your good wishes and support!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:19 AM
BlueIris (29,135 posts)
40. Best of luck, WI. nt
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:28 AM
ewagner (17,355 posts)
41. I don't usually pray.....but
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this time I'm praying you're right...
If Walker wins the message across the nation will be "money buys everything..including souls..." Thanks to you Scuba...you're a real patriot and I'm proud to share this Wonderful State of Wisconsin with you! |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:25 AM
myrna minx (20,531 posts)
42. This Janesville lass wishes all the best to my fellow Wisconsinites.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 AM
kag (941 posts)
43. I can't wait to toast to your veracity tonight!
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Today, We are all Badgers!
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 AM
corkhead (3,909 posts)
44. K & R & Hopes you are right
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:10 AM
Old Codger (2,260 posts)
45. Once More
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I posted this hope a while back, the perfect end to this would be for walker to be on stage giving his concession statement and the FBI to arrest him then and there.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:02 PM
Domingo Tavella (41 posts)
46. It will be painful but...
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Contact with reality, however bitter, is preferable to the sweetness of dreams – the chances that Walker will lose today (I am writing this at 9am Pacific Time) are almost nil. It is more important to understand why Walker will win than to lament the consequences. The American culture is much more in line with the far right than most find it comfortable to admit. More on this later.
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Response to Domingo Tavella (Reply #46)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:05 PM
Scuba (26,677 posts)
47. And what rationale do you apply to your irrational statements?
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Regarding reality, why do you think it is that conservatives are happier with easy lies than hard truths?
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Response to Scuba (Reply #47)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:49 PM
Domingo Tavella (41 posts)
51. Rationality and happiness
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My "rationality" is the price of futures contracts that favor Walker by more than 10 to 1. As for conservatives being happier, this is because they live in a society where they are the majority and feel accepted and respected, and their brains don't get in the way of their emotions.
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Response to Domingo Tavella (Reply #51)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:58 PM
Scuba (26,677 posts)
52. So it's just your opinion. Enjoy your stay.
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:43 PM
L. Coyote (31,416 posts)
48. Yes, Barrett will win because of the blue shift since 2010 voting. This time Milwaukee City
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will not inexplicably shift red as we saw in the Supreme Court special election, and that will make all the difference.
Of course, this assumes elections are not rigged by the rich and powerful. |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:30 PM
AllyCat (7,514 posts)
49. I wanted to believe you but had my doubts until I went to vote today
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HUGE lines in my small city. I have never waited to vote here, not even for a Presidential election. Milwaukee is calling for more ballots and poll workers. 80% turnout expected in Dane County. I'm usually about #15-30 when I vote. Today, I was #199 with an enormous line out the door and into the parking lot as we exited. Poll workers were handed a medium sized box with absentee ballots to start "when there was down-time". The man who handed them to the workers said there were many more boxes to come. Wow.
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Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:51 PM
sonias (18,002 posts)
50. We're with your Wisconsin!
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Please make it so. We are so proud of all of your hard work. You've never given up and never backed down.
May the force of positive change be with you. Your victory is well deserved. |
Response to Scuba (Original post)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:04 PM
Rectangle (563 posts)


