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lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 11:26 AM Mar 2012

“Chicago Stands with Falk” - too much out-of-state money?

I'm beginning to believe that Falk's campaign is an accident waiting to happen. The unfortunate early endorsement and backing by the unions was just the beginning.

I realize there isn't much support for Doug La Follette around here, but I believe he is the best statewide candidate after Feingold. Of course he could use a few bucks to get the ball rolling...

La Follette says the introduction of special-interest money on behalf of a Democratic candidate is “not the result that thousands of my fellow Wisconsinites stood in the cold and stood in the rain to collect. . . . I am very saddened that this magnificent effort, this historic effort, this real people’s democracy was hijacked by the same-old, same-old big money politics that we thought we had rejected,” La Follette says. . . .

. . . . Progressives United, an organization started by former Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold after he lost his re-election bid in 2010, posted a statement Monday, saying that “regrettably, as well intentioned as Wisconsin for Falk no doubt is, the impact it will have on the recall election will almost certainly be to undermine, not bolster, the chances of successfully replacing Scott Walker as governor.” Feingold, an outspoken critic of the influence of special-interest money on elections, remains the top Democratic choice among many voters to take on Walker. He has repeatedly stated he will not run for governor.

“By funneling out-of-state special-interest money to support Kathleen Falk’s campaign, Wisconsin for Falk muddies what had been absolutely crystal-clear waters in the recall effort,” reads Feingold's statement. “Up until now, the only beneficiary of ominous super PAC support was Gov. Scott Walker.”



http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/capitol-report/capitol-report-la-follette-blasts-falk-for-connection-to-special/article_e4449baa-7916-11e1-83ab-001a4bcf887a.html?mode=story

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“Chicago Stands with Falk” - too much out-of-state money? (Original Post) lutefisk Mar 2012 OP
I am not happy to see us starting to eat our own.... Viking12 Mar 2012 #1
Well, I think somebody needed to say it... lutefisk Mar 2012 #2
Best thing to happen would be a very spirited & very public debate about WHERE WE WANT TO GO with Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2012 #3

Viking12

(6,012 posts)
1. I am not happy to see us starting to eat our own....
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:07 PM
Mar 2012

They may have a very valid point, but we need to be careful with the way we articulate our differences with other Dems.

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
2. Well, I think somebody needed to say it...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:45 PM
Mar 2012

A huge vulnerability of Walker's has been that he doesn't represent Wisconsin's interests, but that vulnerability has been more or less neutralized. Now, the Walker campaign has been given a gift. The idea that "both sides do it" (take big money from out of state) will just turn off potential voters and hurt our chances in the election.

I hope we have a vigorous, intelligent, and smart (not eating our own) Democratic primary. Maybe that will get voters fired up again!

(And I think Doug La Follette would make Walker look like a total punk in a debate.)

The folks running Wisconsin for Falk will no doubt argue they were only reacting to the sums being raised from wealthy individual and corporate interests whose agenda Governor Walker so myopically advanced. But of course, it is the whole corrupt system of unlimited fundraising, too often from secret sources, as well as the destructive policies they produce, that is being so clearly rejected by working families across our state. This type of unlimited, undisclosed spending doesn’t just corrupt the process – it oftentimes corrupts the policy results. Because of that, Wisconsin for Falk has done a great disservice to candidate Falk, with her consent or not. . . .

. . . Democrats and progressive candidates do themselves no favors by adopting the preferred tactic of the Koch brothers. By doing so, they throw away a tremendous advantage they have with voters, and instead walk a path that has only led to policies at odds with the fundamental principles of our state.


http://www.progressivesunited.org/blog/wisconsin-for-falk-undermines-recall-effort

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
3. Best thing to happen would be a very spirited & very public debate about WHERE WE WANT TO GO with
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 11:52 PM
Mar 2012

this movement and how do we want to get there - big money business as usual, or a new kind of people-driven citizen-activist politics?

Another good argument we should have out RIGHT NOW is... is it really a good idea to pledge to ram thru restoration of CB by attaching it to the budget. Vinehout has a compelling rationale for going via the legislative route - for one thing holding the budget hostage simply may not work depending on what the makeup of senate & assembly is.... and also she believes it is quite doable (and preferable) to get buy-in from the public via legislative route where it could be debated on its own merits.

A good healthy rousing debate (not mud slinging) would rev up interest in the primary, and I think a good turnout is needed so we can all feel we've HAD A SAY and can then (hopefully) get behind WHOEVER it is who takes on Walker.

Is that "eating your own" -really??? We're lefties dammmit! We all get a say in everything, right? That's how we do it!

Just for the record - I really am NO fan of Falk ... and have a whole list of reasons why.... but I reserve my harshest criticism for the idiots Ive heard who say they'll sit the election out if Falk is the candidate. Now is the time we need to be having all this out! Not do that passive aggressive **** like sitting out elections. CRIMINY - I'll bet those are the same idiots who sat out 2010 because Obama wasn't the perfect progressive president!

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