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Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:59 PM

WA State Dems are kicking out those turncoat Dems!

After Tom and Shelton went over to caucus with the Repugs, I heard rumblings of wanting to kick them out, but never thought established Dems with their staid and rather proper stance would ever do it. But indeed they did! Peltz says to pass it on! Here is is a quote from his letter emailed out tonight:
On February 2nd, Party leaders passed a resolution formally censuring Tom and Sheldon. The resolution also denied them any support in the future.

This means no Party support, no money, no access to the data that is so important to their re-elections, and no right to call themselves Democrats.


You can sign their letter in support of this decision here: http://www.wa-democrats.org/notourparty

I wrote in my signature, "Rather than be a turncoat while taking Dem money and fooling real Dems into voting for you, if you want to be a Republican, go be a damn Republican. On your way out, don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you!"

Cat in Seattle

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Response to mntleo2 (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:00 PM

1. way to go WA dems, that's how to do it... nt

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Response to mntleo2 (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:04 PM

2. Signed, with pleasure!

Thanks for posting this, Cat!

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Response to mntleo2 (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:50 PM

3. Bravo. This is what should happen everywhere.

We need a two party system. Kick the damn republicans out of our party.

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Response to mntleo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:29 AM

4. Do you have cross-filing in WA? Uneducated voters have put in a few fakers. nt

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:16 AM

6. Yeah it is in the OP

...Well the letter to sign is linked in the post, but I am quoting from a letter sent out by my WA State Dem Chair Dwight Peltz, which I am not sure if I can post here. I will look on the WA Dem website and see if they have posted anything there. Good idea!

Cat

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Response to mntleo2 (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:50 AM

8. I believe it is why the blurb - no difference between the parties - exists. Cheating R's

counting on voter ignorance, cross-file on D side and get votes. Sickening practice to allow.

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:02 AM

9. Here ya go ...

http://www.wa-democrats.org/res592

this link is to the reolution they posted on the Dem website.

Hope this helps ...

Cat

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Response to mntleo2 (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:16 AM

10. I believe it is more common than we think. They can't win honestly. Thanks Cat! nt

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:14 PM

11. I am not sure what that is but ...hey I would do it n/t

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Response to mntleo2 (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:58 PM

12. It's when someone files on both sides of a ticket, usually an R, and it is not

noted on the ballot. Low info voters see D and vote for them, not realizing it is an R they are voting for mistakenly. I believe they can do this if there is no opponent. Could be wrong, but can't find much info on it online.

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:01 AM

13. And it gets worse......

Repubs have been pushing and pushing for more and more "non-partisan" offices and votes.

Even now, the ballots don't necessarily say "Dem" or "Rep." They say "favors (this or that) party." I guess it's not mandatory that they word it like that, but many do and it makes me wonder a bit who they really align with.

Since Republican policies demand low information voters to support them, they keep pushing for ways to withhold information from the voters.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:17 PM

15. i hate non partisan

they just mealy mouth around and sound like liberals, get elected and then deny everything we stand for. You have to understand the repubs began a tactic back in the 80s to take over all the school boards, city councils, etc. and to move up the ladder controlling all the elected and non elected positions that run this country. they are now reaching almost all the way up.

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Response to mntleo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:00 AM

5. And in the meantime, who will they caucus with and who will get their votes in a 50-50 split now?

I thought they were being forced to keep the technical majority with us, since we funded their election and voters wanted a Democrat - or so we think.

They wanted to leave to turn the majority to the GOP in the current legislature. That they would never get funding in the FUTURE was a foregone conclusion. In the ext election season, their districts will either vote them out or they will run as GOP.

We can't afford to lose one seat in Olympia.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:46 AM

7. It was the WA Dem leaders who decided ...

This means that the "Illuminati" has decided otherwise.

Believe me, I think many in the Dem party wrestled with what you say and so have I.

But it makes sense since these turncoats are acting like Repubs anyways and would not be any help with the Dem caucus ~ after the Dem party spent funds and gave support on getting them elected. Sheldon already tried to mess things up in the last session at the end of it by screwing up the vote on taxing the rich, and other bills, so he has a record. I am not speaking for the Dem leaders, but it simply means that the Dem party is not going to let this go on. The message needs to be, "If you run as a Democrat, support the Democratic party or you are *not* a damn Democrat!"

These two Dems come from conservative areas and many of the stances they take in their votes would have been understandable and tolerable ~ until they move over to caucus with the Repubs and give the majority to the Repubs. They knew what they were doing and they knew what it would do to their own party to lose the majority.

Hey I am often working with a Republican who understands some issues that need to be attended to ~ and a bunch of Tea Party folks as well. Until I was redistricted, my Dem senator worked with her too (and still does). This Repub senator is a kook, but to be honest though I have major differences with most of her take on things, still like my old senator, I love her. I had to take a stance against my own Representative on this issue and this was uncomfortable but important to do for me. I will continue to do so. See this is politics and understood.

I am a Dem through and through. Does this stance with the Republican (and most Republicans) make me a turncoat? No! Many other issues I am still right by this Dem representative's side even though I disagree with her on that one issue. If I were an elected official I would *not* caucus with that Repub senator and her friends, not if you tortured me.

The other issue is that these two turncoats ran as Democrats and Democrats voted for them assuming they would be in the Democratic caucus *not* the Republican caucus. THAT is a major betrayal to these constituents ~ and also to the rest of the Dems in the state because they screwed up the majority.

Yes we do need all the Dems we can get ~ but *not* Dems who purposefully screw over the Dems in the legislator who also need the majority. I believe if ALL Dems in other states took this stand we would have a more Progressive group of Dems. Why fund and support Dems who are not acting for the best interest of our entire party? They do not deserve our support.

See what I mean? I hope this helps ...
Cat

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Response to mntleo2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:51 PM

14. Signed

Thanks!

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