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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:36 PM

New PA. AG Closes Loophole that Allowed Almost Everyone to Have a Concealed Weapons Permit

http://www.abc27.com/story/21083936/ag-kane-i-want-to-close-florida-loophole

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"Attorney General Kathleen Kane announced today that she has closed the so-called Florida Loophole, which previously allowed residents who were denied a conceal carry permit in Pennsylvania to get one in Florida.

She said the original reciprocity agreement with Florida allowed non-residents to be given permits. The change now requires holders of Florida conceal carry permits to be residents of that state. "Our state's gun traffic and permits should never be bypassed," said Kane. "Closing this loophole shows that it is possible to swiftly implement common sense gun safety measures that protect our streets. This is my administration's first official step, but it certainly will not be our last."

Kane was able to make the change by modifying a current firearm reciprocity agreement with Florida. During her campaign for attorney genera, she told the Harrisburg Patriot-News in October that she favored closing the loophole. "

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Reply New PA. AG Closes Loophole that Allowed Almost Everyone to Have a Concealed Weapons Permit (Original post)
JPZenger Feb 2013 OP
Freedomofspeech Feb 2013 #1
Glassunion Feb 2013 #2
MH1 Feb 2013 #7
Glassunion Feb 2013 #8
Curmudgeoness Feb 2013 #3
October Feb 2013 #4
Curmudgeoness Feb 2013 #5
SunSeeker Feb 2013 #6

Response to JPZenger (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:59 PM

1. We love Kathleen Kane...

She's going after Corbett, too!

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Response to JPZenger (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:24 PM

2. I understand why this was done and I do applaud it.

I personally feel that if one has a permit, it should be issued by the state or a subdivision of that state where the individual lives.

I do have issue on how the city of Philadelphia handles permits. I was denied a permit by the city. At the time I was doing night deposits for the company I worked for.

I went through all of the hoops that they required. I was photographed, fingerprinted, etc... I had all of the forms filled out etc... Denied due to a lack of unverifiable references. Basically you need references for them to contact. Neither one of the references I had listed were ever contacted. I had to repeat the process to reapply. I did this twice more with the same result. I fear that the color of my skin and neighborhood I was stuck in at the time had more to do with it than my references. One of my neighbors reported the same problem.

I have never committed nor been charged with a crime, I have zero background disqualifications in being legally able to obtain the permit.

I moved a few years later. Used the exact same references when I applied in my new county. Was issued the permit that afternoon.

Was that fair?

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:56 PM

7. Probably not fair, BUT

my understanding is that politicians in Philadelphia have tried without success for many years to get some improved gun control measures that they feel they need. They are constantly shut down by Harrisburg. Then the state says that municipalities cannot set more stringent rules than the state's rules. Thus Philadelphia cops have their hands tied.

So, they compensate in what miniscule, unfair way that they can, by being very stringent about issuing permits.

Like I said, probably not fair. But I don't think having rural communities limit a large city's ability to regulate guns is fair either.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:35 PM

8. No it is not fair. However, I do feel it was the correct move.

However, most likely what she has done is prompt a lawsuit. My guess, is that once she closes the other loopholes for Utah and (I cannot remember the other state), is that a lot of residents of Philly are going to file a lawsuit for unfair practices. Downside to that, is it is going to make Philly look incredibly racist.

What always amused me is that folks make it seem like you can fill out an online form, and you get a firearms license sent to you in the mail. When in fact there are specific courses one must take and pass, be fingerprinted, background checked, etc... to obtain the permit. In PA, there is no such requirements. It is actually more difficult for a person to obtain a Florida or Utah permit than one from PA. Personally it is too easy to get a license in PA, and this needs to change IMO.

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Response to JPZenger (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:48 PM

3. Kathleen Kane is going to be awesome!

I am so very grateful that she won the election! I have no doubt that this will not be the last step she takes. And this is a common sense step that should have been done a long time ago. In fact, it should take more to get a concealed carry license....in Ohio, they require people to take a class prior to getting one, so at least they have shown some competence as well as learning basics that we have no idea if the PA carriers have.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:45 PM

4. Agree, wholeheartedly!

Time to get rid of the gov, though.

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Response to October (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:56 PM

5. I wish we had an option to do it sooner.

I worry about how much damage he can do before we can get rid of him.

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Response to JPZenger (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:32 AM

6. K&R

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