Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:25 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
"The only state they lost in David Plouffe's battleground map was North Carolina"
(said Chucky Toad)
The ONE black, ugly, smarmy, filthy sad-ass mark on this whole night was THIS and that freaking, smirking Duke Power tool for governor here. YUCK. WTH is the MATTER with this state? THE REST OF THE COUNTRY moves #FORWARD - but North Carolina SLAMS it into REVERSE? Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Arrrrrggggghghhhhhhh!
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29 replies, 1294 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| NRaleighLiberal | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| nclib | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| NRaleighLiberal | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| Kookaburra | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| karmaqueen | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| Island Blue | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| karmaqueen | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| barbtries | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| mmonk | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| marions ghost | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| nc4bo | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| marions ghost | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| nclib | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| struggle4progress | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| marions ghost | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| marions ghost | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| RobertEarl | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| RobertEarl | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| marions ghost | Nov 2012 | #26 |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:27 AM
NRaleighLiberal (28,580 posts)
1. As we discussed at our Tyler's gathering...where are the good, promising Dems for office?
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somehow the state needs to find some people who can win. Mr. I smell something bad-face McCrory....oh boy. Ellmers. Yikes.
Well, we will have lots to discuss in our future gatherings... |
Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:31 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
4. He's a smarmy CROOK - like Mittens, wouldn't show his tax returns.
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Arrogant JERK!
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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:41 AM
nclib (650 posts)
9. Yes, we need to find some good Dems.
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And a message. It's like the democrats have given up in this state. We need people running who can motivate the young people to vote.
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Response to nclib (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:35 AM
NRaleighLiberal (28,580 posts)
11. +1000000.
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Lots to process and think about, for sure. I hope that NC Dems get it together quickly so it can start moving in the right direction in two years.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:28 AM
Kookaburra (2,648 posts)
2. I don't know what is wrong with this state
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One step forward, two steps back. Ridiculous!
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:29 AM
karmaqueen (575 posts)
3. We tried...
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The group we were working with are wonderful. The people of NC need to pull together and fight these crazies on the local level..We can do it
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Response to karmaqueen (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:32 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
5. When they got oil rigs obstructing their beach view and fracking wells
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in their back yards and can't vote early anymore and their water is poison...maybe then some people will grok a clue. Maybe...ugh.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:41 PM
Island Blue (5,323 posts)
17. Ummmm, maybe.
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I don't know though. I live on the coast and Republicans here are always spouting off how they want to "Drill baby, drill!".
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Response to Island Blue (Reply #17)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:32 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
21. Fine. Slap that smelly rig right in their front yard...
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...see how they like it.
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Response to Island Blue (Reply #17)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:03 AM
karmaqueen (575 posts)
29. I'm on Pleasure Island, You? n/t
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:42 AM
barbtries (15,009 posts)
6. yeah
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:29 AM
mmonk (47,286 posts)
7. Yep. We're now the Mississippi of the mid atlantic.
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I'm one of those gerrymandered voters as well. Though I live in Raleigh, I'm now grouped with people from Sampson and Wayne Counties. My votes for legislature and the US House of Representatives no longer count.
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Response to mmonk (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:50 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
12. Same here - gerrymandered to death
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They broke up David Price's district into 4 or 5 districts, combined them (or at least mine) with a bunch of others from other counties. My vote is shit here. And I had David Price as my congressman for YEARS - liked him and voted him back in every time. Now I've got some dude I never heard of.
I HATE Repigs. |
Response to mmonk (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
marions ghost (13,858 posts)
18. the gerrymandering
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Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:52 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) the Kochs
the vote suppressors the corporate exploiters ALEC fundies ------------------ ____what else? The NC Repugs had a whole lotta outside help. ------------------ |
Response to marions ghost (Reply #18)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:53 PM
nc4bo (13,355 posts)
27. +1000.
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We need a few good Dems.
Anyone have any ideas? Gonna have to start getting to work now. |
Response to nc4bo (Reply #27)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:42 PM
marions ghost (13,858 posts)
28. Slim Pickins
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Must be SOME good Dems that can help get out of this hole.
Right, time is now. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:38 AM
nclib (650 posts)
8. I'm sorry ProfessionalLeftist.
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It hurts. I try not to think about it too much because it hurts. I think about all the people here who worked so hard to get out the vote and I hurt for them. And it's the redistricting...makes me feel so helpless and hopeless.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:12 AM
struggle4progress (71,465 posts)
10. Well, crap
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:13 AM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,656 posts)
13. I'm beyond disgusted.
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Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:09 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) What are the reasons?
--Weak economy, high unemployment, and negligible organized labor --Dumbasses who think we'll magically become energy independent with fracking? --Racism --Gerrymandering --Billy Graham and his "biblical principles" --Rethuglicans capitalizing on Democratic "scandals" --Growing senior population thanks to what must be financially-sound retirees pouring into the state (based on all the luxury retirement communities I'm seeing around...) What else needs to be added to that list? If Dems don't get ahead of the voter ID requirements that will be coming into play, this state is finished. |
Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:21 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
14. One HUGE thing not on your list: TONS of outside money
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Thanks to Citizens United, which MUST be overturned.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #14)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:30 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,656 posts)
16. Agree re: overturning Citizens United. But huge money...
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does not always equal victory, as we see from some of the nationwide races. There is just something especially mean-spirited about some North Carolinians (Amendment One is a prime example...). Mean-spirited and COMPLETELY brainwashed by religion. It's tough to stomach.
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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:01 PM
marions ghost (13,858 posts)
20. I dont think that's the whole story.
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There are a LOT of "fiscal conservatives" in and around Charlotte, in the Triangle, the Coast, and other pockets....
They are NOT brainwashed by Christianity--they're brainwashed by the God of Mammon. |
Response to marions ghost (Reply #20)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:35 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,656 posts)
25. I agree with that.
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Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:25 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I'm tired/deflated and didn't post clearly -- it's the social issues where I'm seeing the mean-spiritedness and fundie brainwashing. The Virginia Foxx mentality...
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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
marions ghost (13,858 posts)
19. I think the rich retirees skunked us
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for the most part. Many left other places in order to live here with lower taxes and more rightism.
Not many want to come out and say that, but I see that you did and I agree. I saw all the Rmoney signs in the wealthy neighborhoods, and I know a few professionally. They skunked us big. I don't know what we can do about that. |
Response to marions ghost (Reply #19)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:27 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,656 posts)
24. Awhile ago there was an interesting article in the N&O about...
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NC retaining young people after they get their degrees from our outstanding universities (Rs just might destroy the UNC system, too). That trend worries me: Less young and more old (I'm middle-aged, so don't pounce, anyone!).
Well, at least the Wake Tech bonds passed... and overwhelmingly. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:18 PM
RobertEarl (2,873 posts)
15. From this corner of the state: WNC
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What has happened is that the Dems are all fighting amongst ourselves. The old Dems hate the new Dems and the feeling is mutual.
Liberals are the scourge and the conservatives are to blame. None of the people who ran in the primaries campaigned for the party's candidate in the general. What we have is a party of individuals who are only for themselves. It is as if they are ashamed to be Democrats, and in a weird way makes me ashamed to be a Democrat. Oh well at least I have you'ins to commiserate with. |
Response to RobertEarl (Reply #15)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:35 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
22. Tell you what...These Repigs will tie things up in NC so it's impossible
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for any Dems to ever get into office here anymore. We WILL be another Texas or Mississippi. Red-state sewer. As I've said:
NC is finished. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I can hang in here until I can retire and get the hell OUT. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #22)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:43 PM
RobertEarl (2,873 posts)
23. Were we younger?
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The time for a unified and cohesive Democratic party is now.
Call it the New South Dems and base it around Obama and other liberal leaning members of the party. Harass the reds and make it so that every vote they make comes home to haunt them. In two years take back the legislature. It could be done. |
Response to RobertEarl (Reply #23)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:16 PM
marions ghost (13,858 posts)
26. It could be done
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VA and FL are fighting essentially the same battles. We are not alone.
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