Look who else wants to secede (sigh)

[LiberalElite]

http://gawker.com/3-000-upstaters-want-to-commit-economic-suicide-by-sece-1727327466

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That attractive graphic up there represents a plan put forth by a group of liberty lovers who’d like to see New York state split into two “autonomous regions”: New York, below, composed of the city plus Long Island and Westchester and Rockland Counties, and New Amsterdam, above, composed of everything else. If that sounds appealing to you, you can attend their rally on Sunday.

Splitting up New York is not a new idea. Vermont only became a state after it successfully withdrew from New York in 1777, and in the 1960s, Norman Mailer and Jimmy Breslin ran a wacky New York City mayoral campaign premised on independence for the five boroughs.
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also posted in GD

[still_one]

1. It sounds like it is a republican plan. They tried to put a proposition on the California to divide

the state into six parts. It didn't make it, people saw it what it was

[Live and Learn]

2. Yep, that one was hilarious.

I would have had to cross in to another state to get to work or to go to most of the stores I visit. Too funny.

[still_one]

3. Tim Draper, no relation to Don I think was very serious about it

The state laughed at him:

It failed to qualify as a California ballot measure due to receiving insufficient signatures.

[cascadiance]

4. Splitting the large states, especially California and New York is not a Repblican idea...

It was something that even Thom Hartmann talked about on his show. It would allow more progressive representation in the Senate, since you'd have additional senators created for each state created, and split states of New York and California would likely yield four more Democrats in the Senate. Now I suppose splitting Texas might yield more Republicans too, but it really depends on how you split the state. I don't think New York or California state government would let them to be divided to provide more Republican senators.

[stevenleser]

7. Upstate NY is conservative. It would add 2 Republican senators to the senate.

Parts of California are conservative too. The splitting up the way those folks wanted to do it would add conservative senators as well.

[cascadiance]

8. Just like any act of gerry mandering, how it is split would make a difference.

If we split in certain ways, it would potentially double the democratic senate representation in those states, or if we tried to do it fairly, then perhaps we could get some balance and perhaps have a bit more even representation. If we got 3 Democrats versus one Republican senator in each of these states, I think we still come out ahead.

[doxyluv13]

5. Virtually Impossible to break up a state

Per the Constitution you'd need both the U.S. Congress and the NY State Legislature to agree to it which will never happen. Same for California.

Historically, NY had in the early days of the U.S. claimed the territory that became Ohio. Even tho NY had never controlled the area, Ohio couldn't become a state until the NY legislature approved.

[Squinch]

6. LOL! Heckuva tax base, there, Upstate!

Good luck with that.