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Thu May 17, 2012, 04:52 PM

Have you looked at your ballot? Effing s**t!!!

This open primary BS is just that. Of the list of candidates of all parties you vote for one. The top two vote recipients will be on the ballot, so that could be two Republicans or two Democrats instead of a candidate from each party in the general election. What fresh hell is this? What can we do to overturn this stupid law? I did vote against it. Why did a majority vote for it? I'm pissed!

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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 06:44 PM

1. The voters have spoken in the last election. Another reason why I think some voters have no brains,

even here in California.

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #1)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:27 PM

10. That's why my default position on the state props is No

Unless I hear a really compelling argument for why a proposition will actually solve a problem we really have I vote no.

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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 10:52 PM

2. I voted against it too. Yet

at the moment I am liking it. It is giving the lesser known or less establishment candidates a chance.

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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Fri May 18, 2012, 03:06 AM

3. I don't think so.

Idiots like Orly Taitz will pull votes from viable candidates. DiFi or the other two Dems could lose against all those Republicans and Libertarians running. We may have a choice between a Republican and a Libertarian and no Democrat whatsoever. This is another RWing tactic to marginalize our liberals even more. It's a poison pill just like the two-thirds majority rule in the Legislature, which leads to rule by the minority. Gawd, it's just awful!

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Response to Cleita (Reply #3)

Fri May 18, 2012, 09:38 AM

4. We also have the possibility of two Dems

facing off. I would love to see a humane Democrat beat DiFi.

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Response to roody (Reply #4)

Fri May 18, 2012, 02:15 PM

5. The odds are against it.

From what I can recall by memory because I already mailed in my ballot, there were only three Democratic candidates including DiFi. If The Democratic vote is split 50/50, it dilutes whatever Dem gets the most votes, most likely DiFi. If we had primaries done the way we used to, we would have had a Dem come on top whether DiFi wins or not. This way the Dems can be drowned because the Republican votes among the I think eight other candidates could prevail and two Republicans or a Republican and a Libertarian will have the two top votes. I mean the odds favor it. Considering this was a RWing backed law, they already have figured out that the odds are in favor them.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:38 PM

9. I am guessing the new district 1 will

have two Dems face off.

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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 06:29 PM

6. I live in an area that will always have Republican representation.

Under this new method I can see the more moderate Republican winning because Democrats will vote against a far right candidate. Hopefully, in the long run we will have more candidates elected from the squishy middle where most people live, and the far left and far right can hurl feces at each other like the chimpanzees they are.

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Response to Throd (Reply #6)

Fri May 18, 2012, 07:39 PM

7. Until I got redistricted, I too had a Republican king for a representative, but that

was the failure of the Democrats to run a Democrat against him, not the primary system. I could find myself easily having to choose between two Republicans now instead of having a Democrat to choose against a Republican regardless of how much of a long shot it would be. If that happens, then I don't think I will vote. The system is truly broken then and my vote doesn't count. I can join the ranks of disenfranchised voters. I will not vote for a Republican as the lesser of two evils.

Think about it. Instead of holding your nose and voting for DiFi because at least she does do some progressive things, you might have a choice between Orly Taitz and Meg Whitman for senator.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #7)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:06 PM

8. what a stupid ballot, but hey they asked for it

DiFi was halfway down the second page. what kind of morons voted for this shit? I was worried enough to vote Dianne , previous threats notwithstanding

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Response to Throd (Reply #6)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:32 PM

11. I'm old enough to remember reasonable Republicans

McCloskey was my rep back in the day: he tried to get back in to oust the ultra-right wing Pombo a few years back but didn't make it. Same with Tom Campbell running against Fiorina in the last primary.

BTW, my ballot has 3 Dems and 1 Libertarian for state assembly - not one Republican.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #11)

Sat May 19, 2012, 05:55 PM

12. I'm glad to hear it cause my ballot is exactly the opposite. Well there is

one Dem against the others. However, he won't make it on the final ballot. I really would have preferred having a representative from each party on the ballot. That's true representative government, not this circus.

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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:28 PM

13. Prop 14 was Abel Maldonado's pound of flesh

for being a "traitor" to the anti-tax repukes and voting for the budget a couple of years ago. So the absurd two-thirds rule is at fault here, too.

You know who has a similar system? Louisiana. I speak from personal experience when I tell you that emulating Louisiana politics is NOT a good idea.

One of the dumbest initatives in California history. Prop H8 is, of course, Number One, followed closely by the dreaded Prop 13 and the soon-invalidated Prop 187. Prop 26, which further hamstrung our ability to raise revenue and thus handed even more power to the repukes, is right up there, too.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #13)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:58 PM

14. I trace all our ills back to proposition 13, yet we will never get rid of it because working class

property owners benefit from it and won't vote for any initiative to rescind it and start over again. Reagan and Jarvis are responsible for this.

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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Tue May 22, 2012, 01:38 AM

15. 2012 California US Senate Race.


The 2012 California Senatorial Candidates and there vision to help us all have a better tomorrow for all Californians


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Response to jacobs27 (Reply #15)

Tue May 22, 2012, 01:51 AM

16. She's sincere but doesn't stand a chance to come in second.

It's too bad.

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