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Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:44 PM

 

(Prop 32) Koch Brothers try to kill California unions

http://www.peoplesworld.org/koch-brothers-try-to-kill-california-unions/



No sooner were opinion polls showing the labor-led campaign to defeat California Proposition 32 gaining ground by 10 points earlier this month, than the multi-billionaire Koch brothers dropped $4 million to shore up support for the anti-union measure on the November ballot.

Prop 32 would ban both unions and corporations from using payroll-deducted funds for political purposes in California. Meanwhile, corporations would have a free ride to raise unlimited funds to support pro-corporate candidates.

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The outcome of the battle over Prop 32 has broad implications nationally because California's labor movement represents more than two million members out of a total of more than 14 million nationally, making California's union membership the largest in the nation.

"Twenty years from now, this will be a point that we'll all look back and say 'This is where we lost it,' or 'This is where we turned it around.' Let's turn it around," IBEW's Norton aptly summarized what labor and other progressive social movements see as the stakes in this battle.

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Reply (Prop 32) Koch Brothers try to kill California unions (Original post)
Starry Messenger Sep 2012 OP
gopiscrap Sep 2012 #1
flamingdem Sep 2012 #2
Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #3
flamingdem Sep 2012 #4
KamaAina Sep 2012 #5
pinto Sep 2012 #6
KamaAina Sep 2012 #7
shanti Sep 2012 #8
Jamaal510 Sep 2012 #9
pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #10
Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #11
SoapBox Oct 2012 #12
roody Oct 2012 #13

Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:37 PM

1. God I sure hope the union members wake up and GOTV

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:56 AM

2. We're seeing lots of ads against Prop 32 here

whew!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:47 AM

3. That's good to know.

(I don't have a TV service.) Have there been any on Prop. 37? (Label GMO's.)

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:45 AM

4. Yes I've seen a couple

I'll update if I notice that there are many for now I remember up to two

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:34 PM

5. They're presenting it as a way to take money out of politics

the catch is that only a tiny fraction of corporations use payroll deductions for political purposes, so the hammer comes down only on unions.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:40 PM

6. Yeah, it's a bait and switch. First thing I usually check are the printed statements in the official

election information pamphlets required by the state. Look to see who "signs" the pro and con statements. Can be a good initial tell on a Proposition's real intent.

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Response to pinto (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:51 PM

7. Yup. Same deal with Prop 31.

It's billed as good-government reform, but is actually straight out of the ALEC playbook, with paygo, unilateral budget cuts by the governor, and even a provision that lets localities opt out of state laws!

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:46 PM

8. they've been at it for awhile

arnold took up the cause the entire time he was in office

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:45 PM

9. I hope not that many voters here get fooled by the wording.

I know that at first, even I was unsure of which way to vote until I found out exactly who is supporting this proposition. Supporters of prop. 32 make it sound like something a typical liberal would support like the "right-to-work" law, but to put it in layman's terms, you pretty much end up drinking piss when you're expecting apple juice. You have to hand it to the GOP, though; they sure do have clever ways of tricking the working-class to vote against their interests. The Koch Brothers don't even live in CA, yet here they are trying to pollute our politics.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 04:53 PM

10. LAT today: "California voters appear poised to reject" Prop. 32

USC DORNSIFE/TIMES POLL

California voters leaning against campaign finance initiative

Proposition 32 would ban political contributions by payroll deduction. That would eliminate the main fundraising tool of unions but not of businesses.


By Michael J. Mishak, Los Angeles Times

September 29, 2012, 7:00 a.m.


SACRAMENTO California voters appear poised to reject a November ballot measure that would ban political contributions by payroll deduction, according to a new USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll.

Forty-four percent of those surveyed said they opposed Proposition 32, which would eliminate the main fundraising tool of unions. Just 36% said they supported the measure, which would also bar corporations and unions from contributing directly to candidates.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-poll-prop32-20120929,0,6650044.story





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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:02 PM

11. Fingers crossed!

 

I've been a little leery of these things getting through the progressive firewall in CA ever since the Prop 8 debacle.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:31 AM

12. Dirt bag KKKoch Brothers...

I knew that this was a bad measure from early on BUT, then I heard that the KKKoch Brothers were pumping millions to the yes side...

THAT made the No vs. Yes situation crystal clear and easy to explain to people.

And I got a couple of NO signs from a guy up the street!

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Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:56 PM

13. KnR

California Teachers Association is working hard for a NO vote.

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