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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:19 AM Mar 2017

Thanks to Trump and the GOP, a California single-payer healthcare system is now possible

Call your California state legislature and encourage this.

No more premiums.
No more copays.
No more deductibles.
No more fighting with insurance companies.

Thanks to Trump and the GOP, a California single-payer healthcare system is now possible

A 2005 study by the Lewin Group found that a single-payer insurance plan would save California nearly $344 billion over 10 years, primarily by streamlining bureaucratic overhead and relying more on bulk purchases of prescription drugs and medical equipment.

The study also predicted a significant economic boost for businesses because they’d no longer be responsible for employees’ health coverage. This, in turn, would probably spur job creation.


http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-california-single-payer-healthcare-20170303-story.html

ON EDIT:
Here is a cool dot gov site where with a simple registration and you can track bills.

This one is SB-562.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTrackingList.xhtml

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Thanks to Trump and the GOP, a California single-payer healthcare system is now possible (Original Post) SHRED Mar 2017 OP
Awesome. nt Akacia Mar 2017 #1
Next on Donald's ToDo list.....Invade California!! LongTomH Mar 2017 #2
If California does it, and it works greymattermom Mar 2017 #3
That's fantastic Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #4
We almost had single payer in CA, but Ah-nold vetoed it. stopbush Mar 2017 #5
Good points SHRED Mar 2017 #14
No. They tried again in 2011, SB 802, IIRC, but it failed. stopbush Mar 2017 #15
If they implement this, I imagine a WHOLE bunch of people would be trying to PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #6
We may have to build a wall. Mr.Bill Mar 2017 #8
I am part of a single payer system; marybourg Mar 2017 #7
We need to do better SHRED Mar 2017 #9
Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good. marybourg Mar 2017 #12
Agreed SHRED Mar 2017 #13
I wonder how a state-based single payer system would integrate with Medicare. subterranean Mar 2017 #10
Sure. There's no reason for CA to try to replace marybourg Mar 2017 #11
Problem is that opponents can argue it's a double tax. haele Mar 2017 #16

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
4. That's fantastic
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:37 AM
Mar 2017

I wonder if Minnesota will create some sort of upgrade health care plan with our budget surplus. I am going to check with the Governor and Senator Franken, Senator Klobuchar and Representative Ellison.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
5. We almost had single payer in CA, but Ah-nold vetoed it.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mar 2017

Later, he said he had a change of heart and would sign such a bill, but the legislature never brought it forward again. Mostly because they wanted to give Obamacare a chance.

Now, with Obamacare under assault, it's time for CA to revisit the issue - legislation was introduced in the CA legislature last month.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
14. Good points
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:34 PM
Mar 2017

I remember this.
Now is the time to treat it.
Do you recall the bill number and year single payer was tried before?

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
6. If they implement this, I imagine a WHOLE bunch of people would be trying to
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:47 AM
Mar 2017

figure out how they can MOVE to California.

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
7. I am part of a single payer system;
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:59 AM
Mar 2017

Medicare. There are still premiums, co-pays, deductibles, even fights with the payer sometimes.

What there isn't is a profit motive. It works well and most participants are satisfied with it, but it does have all the moving parts you mention. (I have regular Medicare, not an Advantage Plan. People who have that publican-inspired innovation have many more restrictions, but at less cost to them and greater cost to the rest of us. Nor do I have Part D, the prescription plan. I don't think that works as well as Parts A &B. )

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
12. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:30 PM
Mar 2017

Most under 65's would be very satisfied with Medicare if they had it, just as over 65's are currently. There are good reasons for people to share in the costs of their own health care, to a small extent, if they can possibly afford to do so.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
10. I wonder how a state-based single payer system would integrate with Medicare.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:23 PM
Mar 2017

I presume that residents would continue to switch to Medicare at age 65. If not, that could be a problem if they later move to a different state.

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
11. Sure. There's no reason for CA to try to replace
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:26 PM
Mar 2017

Medicare for its residents. It just needs to co-opt the under 65's.

haele

(12,640 posts)
16. Problem is that opponents can argue it's a double tax.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:29 PM
Mar 2017

Since we do pay federal taxes for Medicare/Medicaid along with the fact that there are a significant number of Californians who get health care access with Medicare/Medical and other federal health care programs and facilities such as Tricare, the VA, and BIA Health care, amongst others.
That's always been the problem with Single Payer. California State will have to add enough in state taxes and fees to pay for single payer and be able to negotiate with the federal government an MOU on payments to/from and access to federal facilities within the State. A lot of people will wonder why they have to pay both FICA and a state version, or pay additional fees on investments and services, for health care they will never get.
This is just the argument opponents will be using. I will gladly pay and continue to pay for single payer, even if I and my dependents will be going onto Tricare in two and a half years. Just as I will gladly pay State of California taxes for the privilege of living in a blue state.

Y'know, a case can be made that since the Federal government appears to be actively reneging on its health care responsibilities with the current bill, so it is in the best interest for the State of California to use its economy and large tax base to make a go at developing a Single Payer health care model for the U.S.

Haele

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