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Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:53 AM

Couple of thoughts @ contests. Pet peeve reference at the end is fleeting and sarcasm icon applies

We may want to make a new rule that only one third of the entries ought to go into the finals.With fewer entries now a given there have been times where every other photo or so was in the finals. (We've had only one full set of 30 entries in over a year, I think)
I think 10 finalists when there were 20 or so submissions dulls the excitement of the contests.
Host determines how many at the start of the contest, once submissions are closed.

You are discouraged from voting for yourself (honor system, LOL)
yet if you are a photographer, especially one with an entry, you have a moral obligation to cast a vote.


and after your vote
ask Skinner nicely, but in a public message, to make the polls anonymous. Once a month, right after you vote.


And a question to the many photographers who are no longer submitting:
WHY? What is YOUR reason?
And how can we lure you back to join in again.

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Reply Couple of thoughts @ contests. Pet peeve reference at the end is fleeting and sarcasm icon applies (Original post)
Mira Aug 17 OP
alfredo Aug 17 #1
Mira Aug 17 #2
alfredo Aug 17 #3
Curmudgeoness Aug 17 #4
Blue_In_AK Aug 18 #5
CC Aug 18 #6
Mira Aug 18 #8
CC Aug 19 #11
a la izquierda Aug 18 #7
ManiacJoe Aug 18 #9
bluesbassman Aug 18 #10

Response to Mira (Original post)

Sun Aug 17, 2014, 09:56 AM

1. Let's not be adverse to bringing back themes from the past.

I don't want to know who voted for me because I might feel obliged to vote for their entry. I don't want a person to feel obliged to vote for my entry because I voted for their entry.

I never read the names, so for me it doesn't matter if they are displayed or not.

We need to see if participation is affected by season. August is not known for high levels of activity.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 17, 2014, 10:20 AM

2. They are unresolved themes, and they remain adverse, because

stuff that causes problems doesn't as a rule go away from being ignored.
What you personally do is interesting and like all other things varies from person to person.

What has not really varied it that there is general unhappiness about the voting being public by most photographers, and as I said also by others who have told me they no longer vote because of it.

What also has not varied since the onset of it is that our contests have lost a tremendous amount of participation and excitement.
No matter what time of the year, if monthly or seasonal.
The proof is already in.

But - until this annoys me again - I can let it go again.
Obviously we do not collectively want to try to do anything about it, or request a real explanation for not having this concern addressed.

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Response to Mira (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:29 AM

3. Because having the names displayed doesn't bother me, doesn't mean I want

it to continue. I'm all for the secret ballot.

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Response to Mira (Original post)

Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:26 PM

4. I do the same as Alfredo,

I don't look at who did the photos, and I don't look at who voted for mine if I am in the contest. That way, I don't feel obligated in any way to choose a photo that I don't think is the best of the set to reciprocate. I also don't vote for myself, but that is because there are always so many photos that I find better.

I don't always participate, and it is usually because the subject either doesn't interest me or I can't find inspiration in it. I will admit that I am not all that creative myself, so this is strictly my problem, not the problem of the contest. But I always vote, whether I am in the contest or not.

I liked the suggestion you made to allow for more than one entry by each person if within one or two days of the deadline there are still open slots. I realize that this does not help to encourage new or former participants to get involved, but it is a solution to get the 30 submissions.

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Response to Mira (Original post)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 12:58 AM

5. I always vote for myself.

That way I don't hurt anyone's feelings. Or everyone's. Either way, it's all good.

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Response to Mira (Original post)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 02:08 AM

6. We could go back to the original

first ten entries are the contest. No prelims. I think I got my first photo in one of those because I was ready and waiting when they posted the thread. They filled up fast but had to be easier to host.

Sometimes there are more entries sometimes less. Lives get busy, people move on. Some of the most active contestants are no longer on DU at all, not just quiet on the contest front. An "easy" theme will get more entries than a "harder" theme even if we might learn more from the so called harder theme.


On the polls, I doubt it is changing any time soon if ever. That is and has been up to the admins of the site. They might miss the contest if we stop holding it, they might not. I always looked at the contest as a way to spread joy and let others know we are here. I got to learn a lot in the meantime so really don't having a problem with it either way. Honestly I tend to forgot you can even look unless it is brought up.


Why haven't I joined many contest. Life has been a roller-coaster of extremes and if I have had the time I haven't really had the energy. What I have taken the time to do is look at the photos others are posting at the end of the day so I can fall a sleep with something good as the last thing I see each night. For that bit of sanity I owe the group a very big, from the heart thank you.

Oh and these days watching a police department trying their hardest to spread rioting nationwide. No one can be that incompetent and still have a job so it has to be on purpose.

Now off to bed because I am stealing an almost 7 year old and riding a steam train train tomorrow so she can escape her life a while before school starts back up.

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Response to CC (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 02:21 PM

8. Thanks for your pensive comments,

and thanks for calming me down.
I never knew the first contests were 10 photos and no finals. Interesting. It may well be a way to re-visit doing them if entries continue to dwindle.
Mostly though your words help me put the issue back to bed. I like things to be well oiled, and well handled and I never ever like it when hard working folks like the photographers are ignored, those are only a few of my idiotsyncracies...

We go back to having fun, learning, making the best of things with what we have, and pay attention to what's really important.

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Response to Mira (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:19 AM

11. It has been a roller coaster

year of ups and downs for a lot of people. I have here to remind me there really is more good than bad in the world and sometimes I really need the reminder.



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Response to Mira (Original post)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 03:12 AM

7. I haven't participated in awhile because of my travel schedule.

Also, some of the themes have not been super inspirational, but to be fair, I'm a university professor working on classes and a book. It's rare I have my camera with me much.

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Response to Mira (Original post)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 04:20 PM

9. Not that I have participated a lot via submissions,

but summers are a busy time for me, so photo contests get left behind.

I don't agree about the "cannot vote for yourself" rule. I vote for the best photos. If that ends up being mine, that is just a sad commentary on the rest of you!

While I don't mind the polls not being anonymous, I understand the concerns of others. I am too lazy to look up who the photographers are in the submission posts when voting in the polls. Since it is a photography contest, not a popularity contest, I certainly would not vote for a friend if his/her work was not deserving of the vote.

It is a little disappointing when the contests do not get the full thirty submissions, but that is how it goes sometimes.


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Response to Mira (Original post)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 09:15 PM

10. Hi Mira, sorry I did not see this prior to putting up the polls last night.

Very busy weekend and I got home late last night and had to be on the road at sunrise so I just put them up in a hurry.

The truth is I struggled a bit with the numbers for the finals due to the low submissions, but in the end I just decided to leave it at the 10 mark. However, I do support the idea of limiting the finals to a third of the entries.

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