Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:40 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
Shooting the Highest-Resolution Photo Ever Made of Machu Picchu
Shooting the Highest-Resolution Photo Ever Made of Machu Picchu
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/11/16/shooting-the-highest-resolution-photo-ever-created-of-machu-picchu/ Photographer Jeff Cremer recently captured the highest-resolution photo ever shot of Machu Picchu, the most popular tourist destination in Peru and one of the New 7 Wonders of the World. Unlike other gigapixel projects that we’ve shared here in the past, this one is very well documented, offering an interesting behind-the-scenes look at how these gargantuan images are made.
Here are a couple of videos by Cremer and Destin of Smarter Every Day, who accompanied Cremer on the trip ... #!
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| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| bluedigger | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| bluedigger | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Callalily | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| Mira | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| bluedigger | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| Mira | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| Mira | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| Richard D | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| Judi Lynn | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| Coyotl | Dec 2012 | #22 | |
| Coyotl | Dec 2012 | #26 | |
| Richard D | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| Richard D | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| Richard D | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| Coyotl | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| Richard D | Dec 2012 | #23 | |
| Richard D | Dec 2012 | #24 | |
| Coyotl | Dec 2012 | #25 | |
| Richard D | Dec 2012 | #27 | |
| Coyotl | Dec 2012 | #28 | |
| Richard D | Dec 2012 | #29 | |
| Mira | Dec 2012 | #30 | |
| Richard D | Dec 2012 | #31 | |
| Coyotl | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| SouthernDonkey | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| Stevenmarc | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| Coyotl | Dec 2012 | #32 | |
| Mira | Dec 2012 | #33 |
Response to Coyotl (Original post)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:49 PM
bluedigger (10,580 posts)
1. Way cool.
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You might want to cross post to the Anthropology group - they will like this, too!
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Response to bluedigger (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:17 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
2. They sent me here
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Saying the same thing
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Response to Coyotl (Original post)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:29 AM
Callalily (10,349 posts)
4. Wow! What a cool project! n/t
Response to Coyotl (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:40 PM
Mira (15,343 posts)
5. A long time ago in a galaxy far away - when I was 28 - I was on Machu Picchu
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I can vouch for that the high res photos look like the magnificence I saw then with my young eyes.
Upstairs in a closet I have my slides. Probably rotting. You can possibly imagine how many I took. Other than the obvious of getting to roam there and explore and breathe deeply and learn about the Incas and the phenomenal walls they built with no mortar there are two things I want to tell you. There is the other mountain, the one that juts up in the photo that starts the little posted video. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g294318-d548890/Machu-Picchu I tried to climb it! I could not make it. The Urubamba river at the deep down bottom was beckoning for me to fall into it. Some of the turns at the side of the mountain were about 24" wide, you had to grasp the mountain to make it around the bend into the unknown on the other side. I could not do it. They did not have any ropes or anything to help you then. Many fell to their death. The other thing is I came up in the bus on a switch back road. I called it the Hiram Bingham expressway. Hiram was the explorer who found Machu Picchu in I think 1916. I was so effin' scared going up I simply cannot describe it. So, instead of going back down on the bus I walked down the entire mountain through the jungle, carrying my suitcase. I wish I were young again, for just a little while, to do some more really idiotic things like that. |
Response to Mira (Reply #5)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:55 PM
bluedigger (10,580 posts)
6. Great story, Mira!
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Last edited Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Machu Picchu was always on my bucket list. The stairway part reminds me of a photo I've seen of a cantilevered stairway stuck on the side of a vertical wall.
This one? |
Response to bluedigger (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:29 AM
Mira (15,343 posts)
7. No - it was as if
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the grass part where I had to walk and then go around a corner even more narrow than the depiction.
And to my side it would go straight down to the river. To my right were no steps, just the stone side of the mountain. I'm getting sick remembering it. Could not even turn on that ledge, had to inch my way backwards. |
Response to Mira (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:54 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
9. You can see that part of the trail up Huayna Picchu in the image by zooming in.
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Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I was looking it over and it is amazing, on the right side of the terraces near the top in particular. There are cliffs lower down too, with the river on the left instead.
This image is up atop Huaynu Picchu:
13° 9' 28.71" S 72° 32' 48.11" W Can you find it in the image, Where's this Wall-do? I like this trail, Inca Bridge:
13° 10' 23.60" S 72° 32' 42.77" W In '88, we walked up in a rain at night, got into the ruins before first light, and photographed the mist rising before the tourists entered the images. In '70, we camped in the agricultural huts near the ruins, staying in for four days. It was a great place to just relax for a few days back then, with far fewer visitors daily. To descend the mountain, both times I timed the trail run for the buses. You cross in front of them many times, and wave at them again and again as you run down and they slowly zig-zag. |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:10 PM
Mira (15,343 posts)
10. I've reminisced a bit today about my trip to Peru so long ago. And you describe
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how I went down the mountain perfectly, except I did not time my descent with a bus going down. Just down until I got to cross the road, down, and repeat, over and over.
It's been a real pleasure to have someone know this feeling I had. I think when the Thanksgiving has quieted down I'll pull out my slides. |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #9)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:45 AM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
12. I've been there four times
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Last edited Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:47 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) And have never had the huevos to climb Huaynu Picchu. I did climb Apu Machupicchu, which is the mountain on which the sanctuary is built. From the top Huaynu Picchu looks fairly small. A hard climb but not scary or dangerous. Quite amazing at the top.
This is on the trail up.
And close to or at the top ![]() |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:57 PM
Judi Lynn (77,678 posts)
15. The first of these two photos looks impossible! Absolutely astonishing.
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It's a true wonder an entire group of people used these facilities regularly, that they could become so sure-footed, and focused in each step they took living there in order to avoid a complete leap into the abyss.
The staircase photo above looks like science fiction, simply doesn't seem posssible. Hope many, MANY people will see this thread. |
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #15)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:05 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
16. And it is also a wonder how they built for perpetuity
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None of today's, "Fuck that, let the next guy fix it" culture. These "ruins" survived four plus centuries of utter neglect and look at them still!
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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #15)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:42 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
22. It may be impossible. As in PhotoShopped. I can't find it on Huayna Picchu.
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Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Looking in the Gigapixel image, I'm impressed by the upper terracing, especially the masonry of the uppermost terrace, and i even see a set of the protruding steps, but not this particular configuration. This image may not be actual, rather a combined spoof. Panoramio may reveal the truth if the three terraces together are found elsewhere. There is some awesome stonework up on that peak!
On edit, I found another photo:
But I still don't confirm in the 16 gigapixel image. ![]() |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #22)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:56 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
26. Where is Waldo? In this case, Where is this wall?
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Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:11 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) I think you can see the rock protruding from the topmost of those three terraces in the 16 gigapixel version. Not the protruding rock:
The end walls not seen here, facing Machu Picchu, are seen from the camera below on their other side. The lower terrace of the three has brush capping the end and the receding cliff below it. Look about 9 terraces down from the topmost, all the way to the right. That's the wall-do we want. On edit, back because I found more photos of same:
The following image has a high-res file here: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/46170404?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com ![]() |
Response to bluedigger (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:21 AM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
11. I did that stairway
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Not as scary as it looks. Only a few feet to the ground.
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Response to Richard D (Reply #11)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:16 AM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
13. This is the one atop Huaynu Picchu
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according to the image placement in Google Earth. There are others like it in the ruins.
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:51 PM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
14. Oh. Didn't then
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There's one that looks just like it in the main part of the sanctuary.
I'll be helping to lead another tour there in a few weeks. Pretty excited. It still hasn't gotten old. One of my favorite things is to watch people as they first enter the ruins. The looks on the faces are really precious. |
Response to Richard D (Reply #14)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:06 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
17. I need accurate GPS readings for Machu Picchu. Please PM
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Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:22 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) if you know how and can do it.
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #17)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:26 AM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
18. Is GPS latitude and longitude?
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If so: -13.12572, -72.527153
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Response to Richard D (Reply #18)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:02 AM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
19. Yes, the geodetic coordinates using the global positioning system. What I seek is
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Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:24 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) someone with an actual instrument capable of 2m accuracy to do readings of specific points in the ruins, specific huacas like the Intihuatani. The Intihuatani is roped off, so two or more readings equidistant on opposite sides of the position would be required for averaging (or talking nice to the guard in Spanish). Good accuracy requires patience as the instrument takes time to acquire sufficient data. Are you at all familiar with this tasking?
My current Google Earth based coordinate for the Torreon is: Machu Picchu Torreon -72.545576 -13.164634 These Google Earth files open a lot of the placemarks determined using Google Earth and some GPS work of undetermined accuracy: Machu Picchu, the Inca Trail, and the Valley of the Incas
http://jqjacobs.net/archaeo/sites/machu_picchu.kmz http://jqjacobs.net/archaeo/sites/llactapata.kmz In Google Earth, turn on the Panoramio layer for tons of images to examine what the positions reference. Google earth has limitations in such vertical terrain due to oblique camera viewing. That oblique angle is seen in this image:
http://jqjacobs.net/archaeo/sites/index.html#africa "When viewing geometric monuments with significant elevation, the oblique view of the camera is readily apparent—see the Washington Monument. In this GE screen capture of Khufu's and Khafre's pyramids, note the seam between two images (bright on the right and darker on the left) and note that each pyramid has a unique angle of oblique view. This points to the degree of accuracy, or I should say "inaccuracy" of the monument representations in this format. Online, an updated image has since replaced this one." More placemarks of diverse Andes monuments with Panoramio images embedded here: Andes Monuments Research.
http://jqjacobs.net/andes/kml/andes_archaeology.kml |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #19)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:18 PM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
23. I'm not at all familiar with this
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Can it be done with a cell phone? Not sure if there is connection there.
I'll be there in a couple weeks, leading a group. But I will have some free time if it doesn't take too much time to get a good measurement. |
Response to Richard D (Reply #23)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:22 PM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
24. Might this help?
Response to Richard D (Reply #24)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:36 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
25. Interesting to see how that datum propagated to a GPS site
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because it is not a GPS reading, it is the Google Earth coordinate from the file linked above.
This is a complicated project at graduate level. It requires the correct instrument. http://g.factoryoutletstore.com/details/2899/garmin-rino-120.html?cid=2967&chid=4272 What is WAAS? http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGPS/waas.html Some cameras now embed GPS data to geolocate the camera for each photo, called automatic geotagging. http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-62stc-Handheld-Navigator/dp/B0055NQWZO/ref=sr_1_21?s=gps&ie=UTF8&qid=1354670974&sr=1-21 |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #25)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:23 PM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
27. So . . .
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. . I assume that the geo-tagging on my cell phone would not be accurate enough?
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Response to Richard D (Reply #27)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:08 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
28. Correct.
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We are talking a scientific instrument, for geodetic use, that produces and records lat/lon with waas-enabled accuracy of +/- 5m minimum, +/- 2-3m preferred result.
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #28)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:01 PM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
29. Oh well . . .
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. . . was hoping I could help out.
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Response to Richard D (Reply #29)
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 10:03 AM
Mira (15,343 posts)
30. You can help out if you take me with you n/t
Response to Mira (Reply #30)
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:56 PM
Richard D (6,524 posts)
31. Believe me . . .
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I'd love to take all my friends with me! Love, however doesn't pay for plane tickets, etc.
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Response to Mira (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:37 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
8. I like to use Panoramio images in Google Earth. A lot has changed there
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Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:57 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) since I camped in the ruins in 1970 and revisited in 1988. Your photos may be very different than today. And they just keep working on the place.
Panoramio has innumerable great photos for popular ruins, a great tool for visually learning sites without going there, or to see how they have changed. Googling site:panoramio.com for images also provides coordinates to find places in Google Earth. Google Earth placemarks with Panoramio images linked: http://jqjacobs.net/andes/kml/andes_archaeology.kml |
Response to Coyotl (Original post)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:36 AM
SouthernDonkey (241 posts)
20. WOW! Amazing!
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You guys and these photos give me chill bumps! It makes me want to go to Peru very badly now! I don't know if I could stand a bus ride back down myself. Thanks for posting!
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Response to Coyotl (Original post)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:48 AM
Stevenmarc (4,185 posts)
21. Now I'm going to have to borrow my friends Gigapan n/t
Response to Coyotl (Original post)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:04 PM
Coyotl (5,164 posts)
32. Just found a Huayna Picchu video
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #32)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:06 AM
Mira (15,343 posts)
33. This transports me back
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to my terror when I tried to climb it, and to the beauty of why I wanted to.
Having the mountain TOPS in my line of vision, and looking straight at them or down onto them is a vivid memory. So are the Urubamba river flowing down below, and the road leading up to Machu Picchu. I called it the Hiram Bingham expressway, named it for the guy who discovered it. Thanks for this! |




