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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:55 PM

 

Great site debunks myths about Karl Marx

http://marxmyths.org/index.php

The ‘Dictatorship of the Proletariat’ in Marx and Engels

"Dictatorship of the proletariat" has been used to label Marx as an enemy of democracy. In this article, Hal Draper demonstrates that not only Marx, but also the conservatives of his time, identified the most thoroughgoing democracy as a "dictatorship" - i.e., dictatorship of the people over the propertied classes. Draper shows how the meaning of the word "dictatorship" changed over the decades, eventually coming to be seen as a form of government antithetical to democracy, and how via Plekhanov, "dictatorship of the proletariat" came to be understood in this way in Russia.

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Taverner Dec 2012 OP
Warpy Dec 2012 #1
freshwest Dec 2012 #4
jody Dec 2012 #2
haikugal Dec 2012 #3
MightyMopar Dec 2012 #5
haikugal Dec 2012 #6
libodem Dec 2012 #7
tama Dec 2012 #8

Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:08 PM

1. Thanks! I'm bookmarking this

Marx has almost become like the bible, everybody claiming to know what is written without having read any of it.

Marx's description of capitalism, its evils and natural progress were spot on. When I tested out of sociology, the exam was about 80% Marx, something that made me giggle, the old boy has finally been vindicated at least by one discipline.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:05 PM

4. His description of the progress of societies was correct, no matter what solutions one wants.

But because of capitalist dogma, because it is a religion now, full of faith-based economic ideas, we're not allowed to discuss such heresy in the public debate. WTF?


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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:22 PM

2. Thanks I remain fascinated with how one person's philosophy could produce "Right Hegelians" & "Left

 

Hegelians" both of which changed world history

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:04 PM

3. Thanks...

I look forward to learning more than the approved propaganda that is taught in this country...

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Response to haikugal (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:37 PM

5. Marx had one of the best historys of the American Civil war

 

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Response to MightyMopar (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:12 AM

6. Wow...Thanks for the links!!

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:41 PM

7. Color me impressed

Good digging.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:33 PM

8. Probably

 

what was originally meant or implied by Marx and Engels was dictatorship of majority. However, in agrarian society like Russia Lenin, Trotsky etc. were not willing to give democratic power to majority of peasant class (All Power to Councils!), which they deeply mistrusted, but believed that dictatorship of the proletariat means dictatorship of class of urban industrial workers - and the Party cader that represents their interests.

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