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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:26 PM Apr 2012

I hate the dog

Yes, yes, i know some of you will be very 'judgy', because that's what you are good at, but it doesn't change the fact that i have an awful dog.

Lisa got the dog years before she met me and she hates her dog too. Don't get me wrong, we feed him, walk him, give him treats but he is an awful dog.

Here is his one good trait: NON-VIOLENCE. He doesn't bit anyone or anything. YAY!

He doesn't love us. He just loves food. He is not in the least bit affectionate. Most people don't believe his lack of love and affection till they meet him. The cat loves us. This is our saving grace.

He spite pees at us (when I cook and he feels he deserves the food i made, he'll stare at me and pee on the floor).

Nope, his bladder is fine. It's just spite. Sometime he spite poops too. It's lovely.

And don't even tell me that dogs can't feel spite, yes they can. They just released findings that dogs have secondary emotions like guilt and spite.

Anyway, he is too old to do anything with but deal with it but i read this blog online and could totally relate.

http://notamagician.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-beagle-almost-ruined-my-life.html




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I hate the dog (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 OP
Wait until he reads your post. Bake Apr 2012 #1
LOL La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #9
That's just sad... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #2
I had a dog that hated me graywarrior Apr 2012 #3
oh man. that's terrible. in fairness to bailey, he doesn't care about either of us La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #4
LOL, when I first got out cat, he peed on Mr. G's back while he was sleeping graywarrior Apr 2012 #7
Are you sure it's not a cat disguised as a dog? ohiosmith Apr 2012 #5
the cat is SO sweet. she's perfect. the fact that she is getting older La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #6
Heard that... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #36
lol! HappyMe Apr 2012 #8
Regarding the attached blog, I have no sympathy with avebury Apr 2012 #10
yes, the dog has been to many classes. she's done her best. more than her best. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #14
As I said before - not all humans are equal nor are all animals equal. avebury Apr 2012 #37
if it only were that easy to get an animal a new loving home La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #38
You never know if you don't try. And Face Book provides a great networking tool in placing animals. avebury Apr 2012 #41
we've asked around in our social circles, what we haven't done is put it on craigslist La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #42
I am glad that, despite not being crazy about your dog that you at avebury Apr 2012 #57
My best friend's wife had a dog like that. Chan790 Apr 2012 #11
LOL. thanks for this story. it's actually pretty funny La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #15
"Then it died and she was inconsolable and we all had to quietly celebrate on the inside." alphafemale Apr 2012 #77
I don't feel sorry for the person in the blog HappyMe Apr 2012 #12
Sounded to me that it was the wrong type of dog for the person. A Simple Game Apr 2012 #33
Yup. People don't bother to research HappyMe Apr 2012 #52
both in the bloggers case and mine, the beagles were NOT creatures we picked to have in our lives La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #56
I don't like to say this, but I had a dog that I hated. RebelOne Apr 2012 #13
the thing is if he was not housetrained, i maybe would be more sympathetic La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #16
Well, fortunately I was able to give her back to the original owner. RebelOne Apr 2012 #24
good for you. i am happy you dont have to get up to shit and piss La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #25
I once had a girlfriend who had a dog that hated me Major Nikon Apr 2012 #17
lol La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #21
Is There Some Kind of Dog/Owner Therapist That You Can See? Yavin4 Apr 2012 #18
lol. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #20
Have you asked the Vet about antidepressants? siligut Apr 2012 #19
he's alway been ONLY motivated my food. the spite peeing is relatively new La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #22
How about a lobotomy? database Apr 2012 #40
This is what the Gowanus Canal is for. rug Apr 2012 #23
or newton creek. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #26
Don't bring Queens into this. That dog stays in Brooklyn. rug Apr 2012 #27
but the creek is closer to me. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #28
I've said enough. rug Apr 2012 #29
I'd take him to a psychiatrist. edbermac Apr 2012 #30
Oh that's adorable. "They moved my bowl". nolabear Apr 2012 #34
Some dogs just want to set the world on fire Taverner Apr 2012 #31
I didn't quite hate mine blaze Apr 2012 #32
aww. was he affectionate? problem with bailey, is that he is completely unaffectionate La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #58
Hmmm... this is 3 dog generations back, but blaze Apr 2012 #79
I'm afraid I had an Airedale once who was too unstable to be inside. nolabear Apr 2012 #35
yes, i feel like bailey does not have the life that dogs should have La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #44
So whose house is it??? database Apr 2012 #39
pretty sure house belongs to kitty. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #43
Spite is a human feeling. You're projecting what you think about Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #45
LOL. yes, i do understand dogs. He's not the only one I've ever lived with La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #46
Well, there you go. Right there. "A BS show like dog whisperer." Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #49
Yes, because all of what you just wrote is so scientifically accurate. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #55
My sister's dog despised me and I loved him!... Phentex Apr 2012 #51
He doesn't hate you, he's just a Republican. bluesbassman Apr 2012 #47
LOL. maybe all he wants is a tea-party! La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #53
Dogs are like people Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2012 #48
Thank you. He is a dick. And I know there is nothing I can do about it. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #54
What the hell is spite pee and spite poop?? retread Apr 2012 #50
ok, yesterday i was making myself lunch and he wanted it because he wants all food. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #66
Why don't you re-home him? You all obviously dislike each other, why not find a home he likes? riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #59
well for one no one wants him. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #64
Just a thought that you may want to contact a beagle rescue group riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #72
My experience with dogs is limited to the four that have hung around here, but - hedgehog Apr 2012 #60
beagles cannot really be kept outdoors. they escape La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #63
That kind of matches with what i was thinking - hedgehog Apr 2012 #73
definitely could be worse. he could be a biter. he could attack kitty La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #74
Oh, I hear that! We had a dog that was left in my car as an un-weaned puppy - hedgehog Apr 2012 #75
My MIL raises and trains beagles Maine-ah Apr 2012 #80
thanks, i'll ask lisa if we can crate him La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #81
Yeah, I had 14 years of a garbage-raiding, food-stealing, house-pissing spaz. He died last year, TwilightGardener Apr 2012 #61
i am pretty sure i will cry when he passes, but he is pretty shitty La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #62
Dogs aren't for everyone. No offense. chrisa Apr 2012 #65
where in my post are you getting that i am giving him up or buying dogs? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #67
Basically, what I'm saying is, if people don't like dogs, they should not buy them. chrisa Apr 2012 #68
i do like dogs. occasionally i even borrow a dog from a friend of ours, La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #69
Well, I applaud you for continuing to care for him, especially in light of what you have shared Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #70
yup, that's how we feel. we are responsible for him and we'll keep him La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #71
The Beagle Blog cracks me up. My condo neighbor has a Beagle. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #76
LOL La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #78
Are you sure it's not a cat? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #82
my cat is very sweet. she would never spite me with pee. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #86
call dog whisperer RedCloud Apr 2012 #83
LOL. i might call the, It's the Dog or Me person. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #87
it sure can be hard when our pets are smarter than we are. Scout Apr 2012 #84
yeah. real genius. when he gets his phd and has a shit ton of people who love him La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #85
i'm sorry, but you are so laughable Scout Apr 2012 #88
using my pet's intelligence to mock me because you fail to do it or more legit posts La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #89

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. That's just sad...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:47 PM
Apr 2012

Dogs are incredibly instinctive about who does and does not like them. The behavioral aspects (urination/defocation) are really classical signs that there is something seriously wrong in the dynamics.

I'd take that dogs' judgement on those people from that linked blog to heart if I were ever to encounter them. I've little doubt he has them "pegged."


That is a very ugly blog post, but at least they are honest, I guess. I only wish I could do something for the DOG.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
3. I had a dog that hated me
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:04 PM
Apr 2012

She LOVED Mr G, but hated my guts. When we rode in our pickup truck, she had to sit between me and Mr G and she'd actually put her head on his shoulderr and ram her ass into me, shoving me into the door. She was an 80lb German Shepard.

When Mr g went away on business she'd crap all over the floor then run out when I got home.

So I feel your pain.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. oh man. that's terrible. in fairness to bailey, he doesn't care about either of us
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:09 PM
Apr 2012

just cares for food

the cat on the other hand, is as close to perfect as one could be. human or animal.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
7. LOL, when I first got out cat, he peed on Mr. G's back while he was sleeping
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:17 PM
Apr 2012

I laughed and laughed and laughed!

Stop feeding the dog and watch him become your best bud...lol

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
6. the cat is SO sweet. she's perfect. the fact that she is getting older
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:16 PM
Apr 2012

sometimes just makes me cry. i really really dread the day i will lose her.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
10. Regarding the attached blog, I have no sympathy with
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:27 PM
Apr 2012

the owner. Impulse purchases of a pet is not always a good idea. It is evident that nobody did any type of research on what was the best breed for the owner. Not all owners are equal nor are all dogs equal.

Regarding the OP, not knowing what type of dog you have, did Lisa ever try to put the dog through any type of obedience class at all when problems arose all those years ago. As Cesar Millan would say: She allowed the dog to be the dominant pack member in the house instead of taking control. It is too late bad that, when she realized that the dog was not a good match for her, she didn't try to find it a different home.

You might want to pick up one of Cesar Millan's books.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
14. yes, the dog has been to many classes. she's done her best. more than her best.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:45 PM
Apr 2012

i find it so many funny that people do not believe in individual variability in dogs. they are good humans and bad humans and somewhat annoying humans. where dogs dont have the complexity in thought to become sociopaths, its really not unreasonable to think that a dog can be annoying. even with good training and a lot of time trying to "fix" it.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
37. As I said before - not all humans are equal nor are all animals equal.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:14 PM
Apr 2012

No one can assume that any particular pet will automatically be a good fit for a particular person. When that happens probably the best thing to do is to "get a divorce" and find a new home for the animal rather then for everyone to continue to exist in total resentment of one another. Just because an animal is not a good fit for one person doesn't mean that there is no one out there that will click with the animal. Just think about how your life would have been if your partner had found a new home for the dog she hates once she realized that it was not really working out. You both would probably be a whole lot happier and maybe the dog would have ended up happier.

It also really helps to do your homework about the various breeds and their traits. So many people jump on the band wagon of adopting the latest fad dog (chihuahuas, damaltians, etc.) without knowing if that fad breed is a good fit their lifestyle.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
38. if it only were that easy to get an animal a new loving home
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:32 PM
Apr 2012

then we wouldn't have so many in shelters.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
41. You never know if you don't try. And Face Book provides a great networking tool in placing animals.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:04 PM
Apr 2012

I should have added that it would have been easier to rehome her dog early on before any behavioural problems became too engrained and your partner's resentment grew. There is probably resentment now on all sides - you hate the dog and the dog probably know that it is not wanted, ergo the continual behaviour problems. Not a good situation.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
42. we've asked around in our social circles, what we haven't done is put it on craigslist
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:05 PM
Apr 2012

because beagles are used for experiments and such, so as much as I hate him, I dont want him tortured.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
57. I am glad that, despite not being crazy about your dog that you at
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:24 PM
Apr 2012

least care enough to outlive it. I guess you are just grinning and bare it.

It is a sensitive topic right now because I have neighbors with a 7 month old pit-lab mix who is a over grown, over energetic big lug of a dog (who does have a lot of potential). They have a small back yard (fortunately they haven't just dumped in the yard 24/7) and isn't getting anywhere near the amount of exercise he needs. He keeps jumping over their fence into the lot next to my house. He really wants someone to play with and I have 3 dogs.

Last Saturday he jumped out again. I went in the house, grabbed one of the leashes and by the time I came out the front door he was coming around the corner into my yard. After bowling me over (he is a big goofy lug after all) I managed to get the leash on him and walked him around the corner to his house. With no one home, I put him in this backyard and walked home where
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Yes, you guessed it, he met me in my front yard. He hung out with me a while and then took off. His owners did find him later on that day. I had a talk with his owner on Saturday to tell her that 1) he needed obedience classes as he is a legal problem waiting to happen if he gets out, knocks someone down and injures the person; 2) not being street savvy he is at risk for getting hit by a car because he isn't paying too much attention to the traffic; and 3) I pointed out the obvious that they need to find a way to tire him out from his excess energy.

I saw the neighbor Monday night and was talking to her. The dog was standing right next to her and of course he went over the fence (sigh). The lady said I can't believe he did that with us right there. I went and got a leash, called him to me (playing matador so as to not be run over) and walked him home -- again.


Since then I have thought of a copy of suggestions on some changes they could easily make to their fence to keep him in the yard and I will pass them along the next time I see her.

If they can work on teaching the dog manners and adequate exercise he will be a really nice dog. I don't think that he was the best choice for their situation but if they work at it they can make it work.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
11. My best friend's wife had a dog like that.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
Apr 2012

Not the food. It was only affectionate towards her and hated everybody else. When she wasn't home, in front of the rest of us she'd pee on the floor not ten minutes after we'd taken her out. One day, I was housesitting and had just taken her out where she refused to pee or anything, carried her up the four flights of stairs because she was arthritic (mind you, part-Shepard mutt. Not light!), opened the door for her she walked 4 feet inside, turned around, looked me in the eye and shat on the floor. It destroyed every piece of furniture it was not allowed on. It stole food. It shredded pillows. It gnawed on the edge of the marble countertop. It growled and acted aggressive to inanimate objects. No matter what it did, it was anybody's fault but the dog. The damned dog nearly ruined her marriage before it began.

I hated that dog. My best friend hated that dog. All his wife's friends hated that dog. Then it died and she was inconsolable and we all had to quietly celebrate on the inside. I love animals, all animals...but that dog was a demon of malice. If there's a dog-hell...that dog is there.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
15. LOL. thanks for this story. it's actually pretty funny
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:48 PM
Apr 2012

bailey will pee on all furniture if he were allowed near furniture, which he is not.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
77. "Then it died and she was inconsolable and we all had to quietly celebrate on the inside."
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:05 PM
Apr 2012


Yes. Animals can be dicks. I believe there's a website devoted to that.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
33. Sounded to me that it was the wrong type of dog for the person.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:38 PM
Apr 2012

A beagle needs to get outside, a lot. This dog seemed stuck inside too much.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
52. Yup. People don't bother to research
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:04 AM
Apr 2012

the dog's needs or the breed. Then when the dog is just being himself, it's all the dog's fault.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
56. both in the bloggers case and mine, the beagles were NOT creatures we picked to have in our lives
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Apr 2012

one was a gift, one was already there.

i took a lot of pains picking out my cat, and she is beyond the best.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
13. I don't like to say this, but I had a dog that I hated.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:41 PM
Apr 2012

My son breeds French bulldogs and gave me a female puppy. She was as cute as could be, but I could not get her housebroken. I would take her out morning, afternoons and at night. She would poop and pee outside, but still she would poop in the house in the middle of the night. My son asked if I wanted to give her back to him, and I said gladly. I was on the verge of doing bodily harm to that dog.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
16. the thing is if he was not housetrained, i maybe would be more sympathetic
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:49 PM
Apr 2012

he is perfectly housetrained. he only does this when he wants something he is not getting.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
24. Well, fortunately I was able to give her back to the original owner.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:10 PM
Apr 2012

And since he breeds French bulldogs, it's up to him to try to get her housebroken.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. I once had a girlfriend who had a dog that hated me
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:00 PM
Apr 2012

I brought my stuff over in a gym bag. Left it open on the floor. Dog shit in gym bag. So yes, dogs can feel spite. God I wanted to kill that fucking dog.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
22. he's alway been ONLY motivated my food. the spite peeing is relatively new
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:08 PM
Apr 2012

i mean the regularity of it is new. it used to happen, but less frequently

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
27. Don't bring Queens into this. That dog stays in Brooklyn.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:24 PM
Apr 2012

Suppose he survives and drags himself up the Queens side?

Wait, did I just think that?

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
31. Some dogs just want to set the world on fire
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:50 PM
Apr 2012

Don't judge all dogs by this one dog's standard

Most dogs give you complete devotion

But dogs come from wolves, and the one problem wolfdog owners complain about is their indifference or hatred of their 'parents.'

That's life, or rather, that's dogs

Keep in mind this is a rare trait, but it does exist

blaze

(6,359 posts)
32. I didn't quite hate mine
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:22 PM
Apr 2012

but he sure wasn't my favorite.

He was HYPER!!! OMG.... that dog NEVER unwound.

I kept a crate in the living room and, on a pretty regular basis, would pack him up just so the two of us could rest.

He never complained about being in there... he'd actually walk right in when I opened the door... he'd settle down... never pawed or motioned that he wanted to get out.

10 years of it. Bless his little pea pickin' hyper-active self.


 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
58. aww. was he affectionate? problem with bailey, is that he is completely unaffectionate
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:52 PM
Apr 2012

occasionally a friend of mine will lend me her dog, for some doggy affection. sad.

blaze

(6,359 posts)
79. Hmmm... this is 3 dog generations back, but
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:03 PM
Apr 2012

I don't really remember unaffectionate as a complaint. Just the uber-hyperness.

Of the two who own me right now... one of them frequently sleeps on the bed next to me... head on a pillow, enjoying the open window. If he's hogging too much bed space, I can push him over a couple of inches and he just stretches and rearranges and settles in again. (The other one, not so much... If I'm restless, she's off the bed in a heartbeat.)

I totally get you wanting the affection. It means the world to me.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
35. I'm afraid I had an Airedale once who was too unstable to be inside.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:10 PM
Apr 2012

I have NEVER had a yard dog, but poor Gracie, there was something wrong with that dog. I swear, sometimes she didn't know me, and would just freak out and bark like mad, truly threatening, and then do the dog equivalent of slapping her forehead and get all embarrassed. As you can imagine, training was not her best thing. My sons were small and she couldn't be trusted with them. Ach, poor Gracie. We did have her for a long time and eased her out of the world when we had to, but her life was not what all our other dogs' was.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
44. yes, i feel like bailey does not have the life that dogs should have
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:31 PM
Apr 2012

for instance, sometimes my friend drops of her dog to us, and i see how lisa and i interact with this dog and i feel bad for Bailey

 

database

(20 posts)
39. So whose house is it???
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:50 PM
Apr 2012

Give a modest check to a beagle rescue group along with the dog and move the beast on down the line. Dogs are actually quite bright and this dog has its reasons (your cat is a brown noser for starters) so why fight it?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
45. Spite is a human feeling. You're projecting what you think about
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:57 PM
Apr 2012

the situation onto an animal.

I've read that dogs don't have behavior problems; humans do. Dogs just react to people and situations. They get vibes, and they read movement. It's possible your dog is reacting to your dislike of him.

If a dog is well house trained, he won't poop or pee in HIS house, where he eats & sleeps. In a natural setting, dogs go off a little ways, away from where they live, to pee & poop.

It's also possible that when he was a puppy, he wasn't loved on and socialized.

I've had several rescue dogs. When you rescue a dog, you get a dog with an uncertain, maybe damaged past. You take him as he is, and go forward with love and training. Michael Vick's vicious fighting pit bulls were rescued; most have been rehabilitated and adopted out. Many things can be overcome.

I can assure that almost any dog will respond to constant love, attention, and training. Yes, dogs respond to food. They all do.

I hope you will take the time to watch The Dog Whisperer TV show with Cesar Milan. It's excellent. I've learned many things from him. Some have worked, some haven't.

I suspect you don't understand dogs and how they think and why they react the way they do to things. I'm not trying to be critical, but most people don't. I don't pretend I do, but I've learned a lot about it. You have to work at having a happy life with your dog. It doesn't just happen (usually).

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
46. LOL. yes, i do understand dogs. He's not the only one I've ever lived with
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:18 AM
Apr 2012

moreover i am getting a phd in psychology so i understand projection. Since research is pointing to dogs having secondary emotions, an emotion similar to spite would not be beyond belief. Maybe he is just jealous of my food...

He's from a puppy mill so its possible that he was not socialized well and is possibly also inbred.

I understand pack behavior and establishing dominance without watching a BS show like dog whisperer.

It's a silly assumption that my dog is reacting to me, since it took a long time for me to dislike him, where as his behavior has been this way for years. Years before i even came into his life.

All your self-righteousness aside, there are individual differences between dogs that make some lovable and some just not.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
49. Well, there you go. Right there. "A BS show like dog whisperer."
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:00 AM
Apr 2012

That shows what you think about trying hard to have a happy life with your pet.

Your pet is reacting to that attitude. That says it all.

If you love dogs, you know that there is no such thing as an unloveable dog.

That you've "had dogs" before that tolerated you better means nothing. You have a puppy mill dog, so you have a dog that needed work. One of my dogs attacked my other dog recently for no reason. I was very upset. He could've seriously hurt the smaller dog. But after reading up about companion dogs fighting and attacking each other, and stepping back to think on it a lot, and paying closer attention to them, I realized that my dog did not attack the other one for no reason. She was just reacting to something that I had not noticed and taken care of. In other words, it was my fault. I have read up on the issue and taken steps to resolve the issue. So far, things are working out well.

I suggest you stick to cats. They have fewer needs, which apparently suits you better.

BTW....no, "dominant" is not what you want to be with your pet dog. You want to be the top dog, in his eyes, the alpha. But a pack is a family, and families work together toward a common goal. If you think your dog spites you, btw, he most certainly doesn't view you as the pack leader. Unless he's scared of you. That's a reason a dog will pee or poop at odd times, in odd places. I would interested in hearing what you're saying to the dog right before he "spite poops," and your tone of voice afterward.

Psychology does no good with dogs. That's for humans. You're projecting again.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
51. My sister's dog despised me and I loved him!...
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:50 AM
Apr 2012

Well, I tried to love him. He would growl and yap at me, and only me, most of the time. He loved my husband and kids. He had no reason to dislike me and I always tried to show him that. He wouldn't even take a treat from me. Oh, but he would let me walk him when everybody else was too cold to take him outside all the while giving me a cautious look and not letting me pet him. And a few times he would let me hold him when he wanted to warm himself. Otherwise, I got the stink-eye.

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
48. Dogs are like people
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:55 AM
Apr 2012

Some are real dicks.

For the last 50 years, I've lived with at least one dog. I have three right now and luckily they are all good dogs and get along great. In the passed I've had some really great dogs, funny ones, loyal ones, a loner, a very stupid one and a biter. I have raised them all the same way. I'm very good with animals, but you can't change a personality. Just like with people.

Sorry you have a dick dog.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
66. ok, yesterday i was making myself lunch and he wanted it because he wants all food.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:06 PM
Apr 2012

so i didnt give him my lunch but gave him something to eat. i go to the living room to eat my lunch and he pees all over the house.

he pees when he doesn't get my food. all the time. even if i give him something to eat or whatever.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
59. Why don't you re-home him? You all obviously dislike each other, why not find a home he likes?
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:30 PM
Apr 2012

Or at least likes better?

I mean that seriously and not snarkily. I've bought, sold and re-homed many, many, many animals so I don't doubt your words or your feelings about the dog (and him for you) but what I don't understand is why you would keep perpetuating the misery of this dog then?

Move him on! Its quite possible he'd find love and affection elsewhere!

Please let me reiterate that I'm sure you've tried.

But just as clearly he's rejected it. Why keep him in this miserable situation?

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
64. well for one no one wants him.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:04 PM
Apr 2012

anyone who has had to house sit him or in anyway spend more than a day with him, feels about him the way we do. atleast with us i know he has no cruelty to deal with and we'll keep him to the end

thanks for asking that in a genuinely non-snarky way.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
72. Just a thought that you may want to contact a beagle rescue group
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 05:20 PM
Apr 2012

They have a lot of experience dealing with these situations and you all may be happier splitting up.

FWIW, I have a beagle cross and they don't all run away (we live on a farm and he's never leashed, fenced or tied up. He's just been trained to stay with us.)

I see you are willing to keep him to the end but I just thought I'd offer it up. Good luck!

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
60. My experience with dogs is limited to the four that have hung around here, but -
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:55 PM
Apr 2012

maybe the problem is that your dog needs someplace where he can spend time outdoors? We had one dog that spent most of her life outside just watching the world go by. Our other three would hang out indoors most of the day, but spend an hour or two in their pen each night barking at the bad deer. (We're out in the country, so barking isn't a problem.) So, maybe the best thing to do is to contact a beagle rescue and see if your dog can find a better match. Don't take it personally, I'm sure there are other dogs out there that would love to hang with you!

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
73. That kind of matches with what i was thinking -
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 05:42 PM
Apr 2012

I suspect that a lot of beagles were come from lines that were working dogs: either raised in kennels as hunting dogs or more or less allowed to free-lance around a farm yards and live in the barn. That would explain why your dog is stand-offish. Some beagles may be more people focused.

It could be worse - you might have gotten a border collie! Beautiful dogs, but definitely high maintenance!

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
75. Oh, I hear that! We had a dog that was left in my car as an un-weaned puppy -
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 05:48 PM
Apr 2012

he didn't eat dog food the first week, just oatmeal!

He was some sort of big hound mix. He was a wonderful dog for us, but as he aged he got more anxious about other people and one time slipped past me to nip the lady delivering the mail! Thank heavens for thick parkas and understanding people!

For a while there toward the end, I kept having dreams that I'd gotten a pet lion and didn't know what to do about it!

Maine-ah

(9,902 posts)
80. My MIL raises and trains beagles
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:17 PM
Apr 2012

Oh, and I know nothing about beagles.


I've had a few dogs, and we have one left at the moment. Olivia was a total nutcase, and at age 14 still is...even going blind, and mostly deaf. We had to crate train her, she would eat everything except for the furniture when we would leave the house. She would take off if let loose in the yard so we got a very large and tall chain link pen. But she never did the kind of shit your dog is doing.

Have you tried using a crate for the dog when you eat? They usually won't shit or piss in there unless they are unwell.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
81. thanks, i'll ask lisa if we can crate him
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:15 PM
Apr 2012

she used to, but stopped doing it after moving to the city. maybe we can re-introduce the crate

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
61. Yeah, I had 14 years of a garbage-raiding, food-stealing, house-pissing spaz. He died last year,
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:58 PM
Apr 2012

and while we were a smidgen relieved, we all cried anyway. You couldn't help but love him, he had a soul and really enjoyed life, right up to the day he passed away. This too shall pass, just have to be loving and patient.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
65. Dogs aren't for everyone. No offense.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:05 PM
Apr 2012

If you feel like the person on that blog, I would never get a dog again. That person's complaints come with buying a dog. She hates the dog for acting like a dog.

I've stepped in crap - barefoot - in amounts of times that are in the double digits. I've cleaned puke, crap, and pee off of the rug hundreds of times. Sometimes it was even in my bed, or a couple of times on me. I've been bitten several times on the hand (and it's my fault - he's a dog - I let myself get bit). I don't complain at all - I would do it all over again if I could, and will own dogs for my entire life.

I wish, instead of buying a dog and then giving it up, these people would just realize that they should never get a dog. If you don't want something that barks, pees everywhere, and wakes you up at night, don't buy a dog.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
68. Basically, what I'm saying is, if people don't like dogs, they should not buy them.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:17 PM
Apr 2012

I was aiming my statement more as a response to the blog, but also applicable to your post. It just seems like, from your post, that you don't want the dog anymore and want to give him up (but feel like you can't because he's too old).

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
69. i do like dogs. occasionally i even borrow a dog from a friend of ours,
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:24 PM
Apr 2012

to get some real doggy time in. i just don't like bailey or the asshole dogs my grand uncle kept. however i do like most dogs.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
70. Well, I applaud you for continuing to care for him, especially in light of what you have shared
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:42 PM
Apr 2012

There might be a few people here who are familiar with my posts on my cat, Seiko.

I got her in 2001, after I'd gone through an appropriate period of grieving over my two cats, Zorro and Weasel (they lived to a ripe old age of 15 each, and died within a few months of each other from age-related illnesses).

Seiko "can be" very loving, but she can also be very aloof. She NEVER gets on me. Zorro and Weasel used to press themselves right up against me. Seiko keeps a distance of arm's length. She loves to be groomed, she loves affection...but only on her terms, and only when she wants it.

I think about the scrifices I have made to keep her over the course of five moves in ten years. I think about the cost of cat food. I think about cleaning her box every day. I think about trips to the vet. And when you put what I get in return from her on the scale with what I got in return from Zorro and Weasel, it just doesn't balance out.

But she is who she is, and I took responsibility for her, and I will remain responsible for as long as she is alive.

Sometimes I have a bad day and I remember when Zorro and / or Weasel would sense that and get right up on me and purr like a motorboat. I miss that. I may live long enough to have other cats after Seiko lives out her natural lifespan. Until then, I rolled the dice, and she's what came up.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
71. yup, that's how we feel. we are responsible for him and we'll keep him
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:47 PM
Apr 2012

but he doesn't add to the quality of our lives, the way most dogs do.

kitty sounds lke zorro/weasel.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
76. The Beagle Blog cracks me up. My condo neighbor has a Beagle.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 05:59 PM
Apr 2012

Everybody, including strangers, loves the little bastard to death when they first meet him. He loves everybody. In fact he has no loyalty. He would go with anyone who would cuddle and feed him. H

He can be a little evil food stealing fucker.

His mouth will be the end of him someday. He has eaten rat poison, a pound of fish food, chocolate, advil, used prophylactics, used feminine hygiene products ... just to name a few. He hangs out on the back porch of our building and slips in on the heels of unsuspecting neighbors. He goes right for the garbage cans to do his raids. He once ate a huge bowl, probably 3 days worth, of food for my other neighbor's visiting 100 pound lab. I thought for sure that was it for him - eyes rolled back and everything.

The dog has had more hydrogen peroxide poured down his throat to induce vomiting than any dog alive.

At 9 years old he can still leap on to a counter.

He knows when people are drunk and takes advantage. He once pounced off the back of the couch and snatched a piece of pizza literally out of the lips/hands of his owner. It was late after bars so he knew he could get away with it.

But we all love him to death. His owners are a bit more fed up with him after they adopted a new born child 2 years ago. He nipped the kid on the ear last year but we are pretty sure the kid fell on the dog so it was provoked/defensive.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
78. LOL
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:11 PM
Apr 2012

that's really funny

bailey has eaten all things considered dangerous to the dog (prior to my meeting him, i am much more careful about where the chocolate/advil/onions should go)

Scout

(8,624 posts)
84. it sure can be hard when our pets are smarter than we are.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:58 PM
Apr 2012

sounds like that dog has you both well trained.

our dogs have us trained, too. but they also love us.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
85. yeah. real genius. when he gets his phd and has a shit ton of people who love him
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:27 PM
Apr 2012

then he gets to declare himself smarter than me. as long as no one can really stand him, he's not really being smarter. kitty knows 1/10th the commands bailey does, but her life is so much better because she is loved by a shit ton of people.

Scout

(8,624 posts)
88. i'm sorry, but you are so laughable
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:11 AM
Apr 2012

you've never heard the expression about our pets being smarter than we are? that our pets train us? you're so insecure you have to list your degrees when we're talking about a dog? you sound jealous of him.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
89. using my pet's intelligence to mock me because you fail to do it or more legit posts
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:31 PM
Apr 2012

makes you the laughable one.

i freely admit to be trained by kitty. I probably have stated it many many times on du.

I just don't like people who feel the need to snidely attack while pretending they were not. its not an issue of insecurity, i just hate passive aggressive behavior

you want an opportunity to insult me, do it in an argument, don't do it so passive aggressively that any response will then elicit " you are so insecure".

there are many things i am insecure about, intelligence isn't one. However i will not let you just call me dumb and let it slide. that doesn't make me insecure, it makes me assertive. which is actually another one of my traits, that i value highly.

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