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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsPile it on me. I do not understand frickin' football.
I just don't. I don't get it. My team sports as a child were soccer and baseball, and individual sports were skiing, snowboarding, and whatever.
The only thing I ever understood was something I watched in college where some guy jumped over the other during the lineup, then jumped back, then jumped back over again, causing the other player to stand up and say WTF? only to be called for "movement on the offense". That's it.
I don't even know what a down is.
Announcers rattle off stats so quickly my brain turns to mush. Is it just me?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,607 posts)Football has never made any sense to me at all; the rules for Kittenbowl III were more logical and the players were cuter. Some friends once dragged me to a live football game (Vikings vs. ??) - I was so bored I thought I'd died and gone to Hell. This evening I ignored the Superbowl and watched Downton Abbey. If there were any good ads I'll look for them online.
trof
(54,256 posts)OK, I just hadda.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,607 posts)Maybe I'm just cranky because once again the Vikings' filthy rich owner got the state and the city to build them a fancy new stadium and I get to help pay for it. More socialism for the rich, I guess.
But I think I'd be bored by football regardless.
trof
(54,256 posts)In Alabama you are either Alabama (university of) or Auburn.
Also a university, but considered the red neck cow college.
At least by Alabama fans.
Their are several other colleges and universities in the state, but they don't matter.
Your college affiliation/rooting section is more important than whether you are a Methodist or Baptist.
Methodists and Baptists can usually iron their differences out, or at least agree to co-exist, but Alabama/Auburn fans never can.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,607 posts)ESPN once rated it the second-worst college team of all time. Between 1973-79, they lost 50 consecutive games, an NCAA record until some other school lost 80 in a row during the 1980s. I had graduated by the time this awesome losing streak started, but while I was there they were already a laughingstock on campus. Nobody went to football games because they were almost always a disaster. So I come from a somewhat different football tradition.
jmowreader
(50,529 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,607 posts)Macalester, in St. Paul. It was also the alma mater of Walter Mondale and Kofi Annan, neither of whom played football as far as I know.
Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)I live just outside of Denver and hate what happens to this community when the Broncos win. Feel like I need to be in some sort of support group.
Yavin4
(35,421 posts)Most of which I don't understand nor follow. For example, EVERY drama on CBS is about a team of super smart people fighting and solving crimes in an hour. I don't get them, but they're the most popular shows in America. I also don't get Big Bang Theory.
trof
(54,256 posts)A screamingly gay guy whose character isn't actually supposed to be gay?, but you can just SEE that he is.
And the actor actually comes out as gay and everyone is all "Whoa! How BRAVE of him to come out, etc., etc., etc.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Nor do I care.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)American football is an unusual sport. The key to enjoying football is understanding the basics and a bit of the rules. After a while things clear up and you might find yourself looking forward to a game.
The offensive team has four downs to gain 10 yards of distance toward their goal line. That is why the ten yard increments are marked off on the field. The team on defense tries to stop the offensive team from achieving their aim of reaching ten yards where they will be awarded an additional 4 new downs.
That is why 1st and 10 is a positive achievement.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,362 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)But it's like anything else.
Gain an appreciation for it and it opens the door to rapport with other people who love the game.
I have a story behind how that happened for me, but it's not important.
For me, football is a matter of "how bad do you want it?" And as I am a self-employed Web Designer, a sole proprietor who has to go out and get my clients or there ARE no clients, that is a key thing for me.
I live in South Carolina now, which means I am in "Panther Country." My girlfriend and I both originally came from the same small town in Massachusetts. That means she and everyone in her orbit are Patriots fans. I don't care for Tom Brady...I think he's a prick. I'm a Broncos fan (for reasons found in the story I mentioned above).
So I watched the Patriots / Broncos game, and it became very clear early in the game that through either arrogance or ignorance, the Patriots had a fatal lack of awareness when it came to the Broncos' defense. That's what won the game. You could see Brady early in the game and he had the face of a man who was going to be defeated, and he was.
Same thing yesterday. Regardless of what people may think of Cam Newton's personality, I think few will question his skills as a quarterback. But yesterday, the whole game was on him. The Panthers, just like the Patriots, were ill-prepared to deal with the Broncos' defense, and that's what won the game. The Panthers' offense didn't stand a chance.
I probably will never get to the point where I paint my face and upper body in my team colors and scream their name while clutching a beer. I've never been that guy. But I do have an intense appreciation for the power of intention, specifically intending to win, and that's what makes or breaks a football game.
A rudimentary understanding of the game allows me to have conversations with fans. In the past, my response was "I don't really care for football." That was usually met with a disappointed "Oh...OK," followed by the end of the conversation. Now, a couple of minutes worth of banter elevates the mood of the other person. They either get jazzed because we like the same team or they get that "We're going to BEAT you" team spirit for the team of their choice.
It's a little thing. In my heart of hearts I will always be a Web Designer / Photographer / Musician / Chef BEFORE I give a thought to sports, but the punchline, I guess, is that if you make the effort to appreciate the things others like, it makes you a more well-rounded and approachable person, and that enhances the quality of all of your relationships, from casual acquaintances to your inner circle.
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)I never cared about football that much until I started playing fantasy football last year. Now I go into work on Monday and talk all kinds of stats and line ups. We compare players, not necessarily teams, and yes, it makes you able to approach people and talk about the nuances of the game. Now I love football.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)My sports were football(soccer) and volleyball not Football American.
Individual sports for me were track, and something else.
I only remember the names of a few teams, just because of people I associate with.
-Washington Redskins - I am at the area, so they are pervasive.
-Dallas Cowboys - The nemesis of Washington, and I have co-workers that talk sh1t to each other about these two teams. Kinda hard to not know about this rivalry.
-Baltimore Ravens - The friend I lost, loves this team, as she is in Baltimore. Since I hung out with her the past few years almost every single weekend, I became a de facto Ravens supporter.
-Greenbay Packers - I saw them in Pitch Perfect 2. I can appreciate people that could have fun
-San Francisco 49ers - Jerry Rice was just that much of a legend. I was in Middle School/High School when he was that famous.
-Patriots - I have no idea where they are from, but people hate on them a lot, so, that is the only thing I remember about them.
-Miami Dolphins - Ace Ventura Pet Detective... nuff said.
That's it.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)The Washington R-words are our most reviled enemy. No matter what else happens during the season, it's only a great season if the Cowboys beat them twice.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)It's actually quite funny to hear the back and forth.
Spices up my mornings now and then.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I grew up in Dallas so I'm a Cowboys fan since the days of Roger Staubach. I remember my 5th grade teacher coming into class and announcing bemusedly "Well we just drafted a fellow named Too-Tall Jones". My dad took me to my first pro game and we saw Roger Staubach accomplish one of his patented come from behind victories against the Eagles.
I was the Offensive Lineman of the Year for my team in the Irving Boys Football Association but, to be fair, I think they gave it to me because I played a lot of positions and was good at all of them but not the best at any of them. I didn't care, I got pizza and cake at the award party.
I played in Jr high and High school as well however my high school was a small private religious school so we only played non-contact* flag-football. They finally moved up to full contact my Senior year but we weren't very good lol.
On a side note, the defense is no longer allowed to cause an illegal motion penalty by making the offensive line move after being set... More often than not, if they move first, the defense will be called for a neutral zone infraction even if the offensive lineman moves afterward.
My wife and daughter suffer (not very silently) during football season as I will watch any game and scream at the TV for various miscarriages of football justice without regard to volume or even correctness. For the record, my TV got an unusually long harangue over that called incomplete pass that led to Denver sacking Cam and scoring. But we did watch much of the puppy bowl too so they didn't complain as much as they do during the regular season.
I was pulling for Cam and Carolina as my dad loved that team until he died. He lived in Charlotte from before they got an NFL team and embraced them whole-heartedly.
But I also didn't mind Peyton getting a Superbowl Championship even if he does own a lot of those disgusting Papa John's franchises. His commercials are often funny and Denver's Defense certainly deserved that win. And I have friends that live in Denver so I know they were happy (They have season tickets and their house has more Broncos stuff than mine has Cowboys stuff)
But yeah, just because I love football there's no rule or law that says you have to. Some of my best friends hate football.
*Supposed to be non-contact but that didn't stop me from getting knocked the eff out once. In flag football if the defender is set, the runner must make an attempt to avoid contact. In other words, they gotta run around you instead of through you. But this one time I was set, ready to grab the oncoming rushers' flag when he just decided to put his arms up and run over me - he outweighed me by at least 70 pounds. I wasn't gonna be the guy who jumped out of the way so I stood my ground and caught his forearms full in the face at top speed. The next thing I remember was hearing my coach saying "Holy crap he's alive!" as I woke up inside the school some 10 minutes later. Still worth it. That kid got ejected and suspended. We won the game. Not because of me or anything but it's nice to hang that on top of them cheating. They couldn't even beat us by cheating us.
Wolf Frankula
(3,598 posts)Why not cut pig in half? Both gangs eat.
Wolf
Tab
(11,093 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)We used to play casually as kids, and I understand the basic rules, but I just couldn't for the life of me get into watching it, except maybe bits of a high school game. Watching it on TV is brutal, and I think it's been deliberately altered by big media/big money to have more pauses and time-outs whatever to provide more air time for ads. Very tedious to see ten minutes of game time take a half and hour or more.
The talk and hype is what turns me off the most. Talk about a game of you will ( "hey that was a great pass" or whatever ) but all this constant blather about off-field BS just seems to me like a pathetic attempt at making it all sound like it has more gravity than it does.
I can get the camaraderie bit among a crowd and I see that seems to be a big reason, but keep it among themselves. It's not a religion, and I don't want to be preached to.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)My town has no team and the closest team is the Tampa Bay Bucs, who usually kinda suck. Jacksonville and Miami do nothing for me, and Atlanta and Carolina are too far away to inspire anything.
I just find football kinda boring usually, unless it's a really high scoring close game with lots of passing. The trudge back and forth across the field does nothing for me.
I rarely watch it anymore, although I did watch some of yesterday's game.
I get it because I repeatedly made big $$ betting every adult a quarter that the local team would lose when I was dragged along to large football parties.
It wasn't the game itself. It's that I could make some decent money (for the 70s) while watching all the adults around me gnashing their teeth and tearing their hair, both at the games and at losing, again, to a kid.
So I had some motivation to learn.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)So, there's a start!
If you want to learn more about it there's a good 'Football for Dummies' book. I love it because the more I learn about it the more I realize I have much more to learn.
No biggie if you don't care to learn about it or if you don't like it. Lots of stuff like that in the world. I don't understand republicans.
ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)I went to several games and saw a number on tv because my parents are football fans. It, nor any other sport entertains me to watch. I find it odd how some people can be so fanatical about it, especially if the team isn't from their home town and they don't personally know any of the players. It's been said to be our version of the gladiator games or some tribal instinct, but it does nothing for me.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:46 AM - Edit history (1)
"I find it odd how some people can be so fanatical about it, especially if the team isn't from their home town and they don't personally know any of the players"
Not only that, but even if the team is from their home town, it's just a name and location. It's like that with lots of sports: It's not like the players are all native sons that were born and raised there so that one could claim this or that city has superior people. They recruit players from all over.
It's such a shallow way to try to have pride IMO.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I do not understand the rabid adoration of the fans. I guess people have to do something with their free time.
yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)I grew up in Kentucky, where the Official State Religion is basketball, a very straightforward easy to understand game. Neither my high school nor my college had a football team.
My college does have 8 Division II NCAA championship trophies and Lord Knows How Many Divisional, Regional and Final Four appearances. The Big State Universities are known mostly for their basketball as well.
So not only do I not understand football, I have no interest in doing so. However do not get between me and my TV during March Madness!!!
If none of my favorite teams make the draw, I will find someone to root for before the first time out.
IcyPeas
(21,842 posts)it's like war and we have enough of that for real.
rurallib
(62,387 posts)I like college football because we have a local team.
I always think of American football as a war substitute. the season is a war, each game is a battle and each play is a skirmish in that battle, carefully plotted by one general and defended by another general. The rest are just the details of how the skirmishes, battles and wars are conducted.
rugby on the other hand is simple kill the man with the ball.
Edit to add - watching pro football to me is about like watching grass grow.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)yewberry
(6,530 posts)Went to two high schools-- neither had football so I never experienced the (apparently common?) shared football game whoopteedoo. Also, the Super Bowl is a giant pain in my ass at my job-- it gets in the way.
I'm from Boston & live in Seattle. Apparently there are feelings involved, from the way people get all caught up.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Once in awhile, there is a long pass and a dude catches it and runs through some other dudes and scores. But for the most part, it's a line up, there's a scramble, you can't tell where the ball is, and then they all fall down.
Snoozefest.
I went to football games in college, but I probably only watched a few minutes of each game. The real interest for me was the social interaction going on in the stands.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)But I am from outside of St. Louis, so I guess I get a pass (not sure if that is a pun here or not, since I don't understand football!).
My husband has tried over the years to explain it to me. My 8 year old grandson seems to know more about it than I do!
My son was in marching band and my daughter was a cheerleader, so I have had to go to many games. I have tried very hard to get a grasp of it, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
I am hoping the old dome that the Rams left us with the bill for may be used for indoor soccer. I understand that!
I love baseball! Go Cards! And yet I was rooting for the Cubs! I think I am just non competitive!