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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:44 PM Jan 2016

*Star Wars Spoilers* My theory as to who Rey is...

...is simple: she's Palpatine's granddaughter, and heir to the Empire. Obviously, she's connected to someone who knows the Force well, and everyone assumes this is either Luke, or Ben Kenobi, or Vader-thru-Leia. And she's someone whom everyone in the Galaxy takes for granted has some importance. (For example--Chewy, especially after Han dies, taker her presence aboard the *Millenium Falcon* totally for granted.) But I think Kylo Ren's mysterious master is probably Palpatine's son, and that he's trying to engineer events so that Rey and Kylo end up together. If I'm right, then Rey will face massive challenges to avoid the Dark Side, just as Kylo will be tempted to the Light Side.

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*Star Wars Spoilers* My theory as to who Rey is... (Original Post) First Speaker Jan 2016 OP
R2D2 is running the entire show. hunter Jan 2016 #1
That's an interesting idea, but... Orrex Jan 2016 #2
Yeah, I hope so too. cemaphonic Jan 2016 #9
I think she is Luke's daughter oregonjen Jan 2016 #3
With his sister Leia? hunter Jan 2016 #4
I don't think Luke would betray the Jedi oath. Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #8
Regarding Luke's speech... Orrex Jan 2016 #14
Not sure... I mean, that would be an interesting thing to do. Xyzse Jan 2016 #5
No clue NewJeffCT Jan 2016 #6
Timeline wise Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #7
Then who's her grandmother? Orrex Jan 2016 #10
Someone that helped crazy old Ben Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #11
Same here Orrex Jan 2016 #12
correct NewJeffCT Jan 2016 #13

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
2. That's an interesting idea, but...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:14 PM
Jan 2016

IMO it would be better if she weren't related to anyone. Too much of the universe has already hinged on the antics of half a dozen people.

And for Yoda's sake, we'd better not find out that Finn is Lando's son, as I've seen suggested many disastrous times on social media.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
9. Yeah, I hope so too.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jan 2016

"Luke, I am your father" was an awesome inspired plot twist, but they've been chasing that high for movie after movie, and it's time for something new. There's obviously some connection though - I hope that she turns out to be the daughter of one of Luke's students from his Jedi training project. That would set up one hell of a rematch between her and Kylo Ren.

oregonjen

(3,335 posts)
3. I think she is Luke's daughter
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jan 2016

Her story parallels Luke's
Luke's light saber called to her
In the first trailer that came out, we heard Luke's speech about how the force runs strong in his family


Probably wrong, but it's fun to speculate!

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
8. I don't think Luke would betray the Jedi oath.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jan 2016

I mean, sure, what the hell do I know, but he would have realized that a Jedi loving went SOOOOOO damn well with Anikan.

I hope she's someone unrelated. I feel like/hope there is a mindfuck coming.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
14. Regarding Luke's speech...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jan 2016

IIRC, it goes as follows:

The Force is strong in my family. My father had it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power, too.
This smells like a red herring, because Luke telegraphs it so plainly that we're obviously supposed to infer that she's his daughter.

As has been noted, the speech is lifted from the moment in EPVI when he reveals to Leia that she'd kissed her brother on the mouth, with the final line newly added.

The obvious argument is that "he's telling Rey that he's her father, but he doesn't want to say it directly, so he's laying out his family's history with the Force so that she can make the connection herself."

Possibly, but again that's too obvious, and it would be greatly disappointing. Further, that would make Luke kind of an asshole for abandoning his daughter on a shithole planet, wouldn't it? Why not idyllic Naboo or any of the zillion gorgeous planets in the galaxy? Why maroon her on the one that most resembles the desolate litter box where he grew up?

The way I'm reading his speech, he's rattling off his family's Force-lineage to illustrate the weighty responsibility that it entails, but that doesn't mean that he's talking to his daughter (if indeed he's speaking to Rey at all.)

If she's his daughter, it presents a few narrative challenges, too. When did Luke get down with her mother? How did he keep the pregnancy/birth/newborn secret from everyone? What about the Jedi rules against love & procreating? And wouldn't this all apply equally to Ben Kenobi, who's also rumored to be Rey's ancestor?

For that matter, what the heck does he mean by "my sister has it?" What did Leia ever do Force-wise, other than hear Luke calling from that weather vane?

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
5. Not sure... I mean, that would be an interesting thing to do.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

Kylo Ren is part of the Knights of Ren and not a Sith.
Same as Supreme Leader Snoke who is not a Sith either. They are like an offshoot it seems.
Snoke also looks similar to the aliens that specialize in cloning (which I will get to later).

I have read a few theories where they say Rey is probably Leia and Hans daughter sent away after Ben Solo turned dark. Where they cite that he is much older, and was sent to training to Luke at his young age(to correct his problem-child tendencies) so he would not have known of a sister, who is then hidden from him and his new master. The timing seems to fit, as Kylo Ren is at least 10+ years older than Ray, and they seem to have a connection.

Saying that, one could also look towards the Disney XD series "Star Wars: Rebels" and expand the universe beyond the Skywalker family.

She could be a descendant of a force sensitive infant...

However, what I personally would enjoy would be that she's a female Luke or Anakin clone similar to a famous bounty hunter. The SW universe has the technology, and heck, they made Anakin be a messiah-like individual where he didn't have a father. If she were, she could have been a by-product of a project funded by the shattered empire. Now that would be fun.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. No clue
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

but, I've also heard speculation that Rey is Obi Wan's *grand*daughter as well - since the Jedi order fell during Revenge of the Sith, he was no longer bound by the no marriage/no offspring rule and possibly produced a child with whoever Rey's mother is.

There is also some speculation that Snoke is Darth Plagueis - the Sith Lord who taught Palpatine how to beat death, then was killed by Palpatine. Maybe he was only mostly dead?

edited to change it to granddaughter

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
7. Timeline wise
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jan 2016

it would have to be Ben's granddaughter. It's been 30 years since Return of the Jedi. Or Ben's great-granddaughter.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
11. Someone that helped crazy old Ben
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jan 2016

get through long nights on Tatooine?

I'm pulling for her being unrelated to characters from previous films but pretty sure I'll be disappointed.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
12. Same here
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jan 2016

I'd rather find out that her ancestor is the as yet unidentified "another" that Yoda mentioned to Ben after Luke flew off to try to get himself killed on Cloud City.

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