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Got a card in the mail today from a young relative. I guess it was supposed to be a Christmas card, but it consisted of just a photo of the sender and her new husband on their wedding day (they were married this past Spring) with the printed message "Have an awesome holiday!" with a little pink heart, and underneath it their names. There was no other message and no signature. My first thought was, "Christmas isn't about you and your wedding, sweetie!" But maybe that's too harsh. I know a lot of people send Christmas cards with photos of their families in front of their Christmas trees or whatever, with some message like "Season's Greetings from the Smith Family." But this was just a wedding photo (the bride wasn't exactly a bridezilla, but she was so obsessed with her wedding and OMG I'm getting married!!! that nothing else mattered in the whole world, for months!!). Is the card tacky or am I being a grump who should be happy to get any kind of card at all?
hlthe2b
(102,217 posts)My issue is seeing all my single friends over the years--many who are struggling mightily financially, be constantly hit up for bridal shower gifts, the wedding gifts, the baby shower gifts, the coworker kid's graduation gifts, retirement gifts.. and on and on and on and on. All the while, they, being single, never are acknowledged at all...
I know this sounds "scroogey" but the fact that those "soliciting" gifts never give a thought to how difficult that might be financially for some of their co-workers--all the while the expectations (and office politics) don't really give them an out--has become an increasing problem over the years. I've generally been happy (and financially able) to acknowledge these same milestones in co-worker's lives, but I can't help feeling that maybe I should be pointing out the insensitivity. (Of course, I don't)...but I've seen the look of dread on the faces of some, when that "collection" envelope was circulated their way...
Just a thought...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)Nobody should feel obligated to contribute to a gift.
DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)But they will be Christmassy and not weddingy and they will not feature a photo of me standing outside amid spring flowers.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,639 posts)and let go of any motivation or hidden message within. You'll be happier if you take that road.
Consider it your relative's foray into the War on Christmas.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)and maybe this is something the young'uns are doing now.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)My cousins send photo-cards of their kids. At least they remember me and keep in touch once a year. I look forward to seeing how much they have grown.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)yes, the card is tacky.
Holiday cards are about the holiday, and good cheer, and all that stuff.
They are not supposed to be about ME! ME! ME! and should involve at least a minimal effort.
(Remember how disgraced our grandmothers were when preprinted cards first happened? Imagine what they would think now...)
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)She would be absolutely appalled. I'm not quite appalled, but not thrilled, either.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)I am DEFINITELY an old fogey
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)every time I see one of those.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)but she sent you something. Maybe they didn't think to take a special photo. Did they at least send the "letter"?
We send a picture of us with our dog, but always send the form letter about what we're up to.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)I'm very happy not to get a Christmas brag letter (if she couldn't even be troubled to sign her card she isn't going to write a letter. Anyhow, she has Facebook for that). I get those from my odious sister-in-law; she doesn't like me but I think she sends them to me just to show me how superior her life is to mine.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)She should at least have included a personal greeting.
a kennedy
(29,644 posts)and I hate them. Ugh...... but I do keep them and use them as who I send my handmade valentines to in February, as I don't send Christmas cards, just valentines.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I really don't care for cards that don't include at LEAST a signature. Yeah, yeah, it's the thought that counts which means the cards with the pre-printed labels and no message or signature tell me they think of me as just another chore over the holidays.
I guess your relative is in the honeymoon phase and the wedding was everything but I still think a note along with the pic would have been more appropriate.
orleans
(34,048 posts)so do i
there is just so much facebooking, texting, twittering, internet shit & iphone apping crap to do
plus the required video games, nights out at the local bar/club, etc.
who the hell has time to actually write a note & sign their name and hand address envelopes???
they have been (for a number of years now) the self-involved generation
(don't let the dip in the sound around 43 seconds fool you--there's more to come in the audio! just scooch it up to 1:00)
BubbaFett
(361 posts)I think it is exceptionally wonderful that you have people in your life who care enough to take the time to send a card.
I only get phone calls. When people need money.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)yes INDEED
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)I don't like the "look at all the cool places we went this year" cards or anything like that. I'm not even a Christian, but I'd rather have a glittery snow covered manger scene card than photo cards.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and I find that people nowadays are just rude and self-centered in general. Every time I go to the store, I find that people walk around as if only they existed. They walk right at me as though I was invisible and if I don't move, they'll just trample me. It's the same thing in the parking lot. If I walk across an empty parking space, there's always a car that suddenly comes along and moves me out of the way. Just the other day I took my mom to the doctor and was putting her in her wheel chair on the passenger's side of the car. A lady came along suddenly wanting to get into her car that was parked right next to us and nearly pushed my mom's wheel chair over. That someone is so wrapped up in their own life in sending you a card uniquely about them and not about peace and goodwill to all (which is what Christmas is all about) doesn't surprise me, unfortunately.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)It was a photograph of them, the bridal couple and their other daughter at the wedding (which I attended and took many photos of myself). No signature, no note.
So the apple didn't fall far from the tree. In fact, I think it's still on it.
Oh, well. Guess I know now where the bride's manners came from.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)You have to just laugh about it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Ya never know...?
I'll bet they thought to themselves "We're never gonna look better--let's fix this image in EVERYBODY's mind!!!!!"
Coventina
(27,094 posts)I miss the art of the old Christmas cards.
But, I can't complain because I don't send cards - of any type - myself.
I guess I'm just Scrooge McGrinch.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)to know what's tacky.
I'm 63 and what we send as cards has evolved over the years. I used to
hand write ALL my cards, with personal notes to everyone. About 20 years ago
I started including a holiday letter. Then I would include a photo. In the last
few years we've done photo cards with a still life photo, a photo of the house
we built after the fire, a photo of us taken by our son in Berlin, and finally this
year a collage of photos from trips--all with family and significant others. I still
add a handwritten note--personalized--since I don't have to summarize what's in
the holiday letter.
This year I was ruthless in cutting the Christmas card list to less than 80.
One of the people we cut--from a town where we lived over 20 years ago--sent
a card this year with no personal note, no holiday letter, and no photo. I did not
feel badly we'd cut them and did not relent and send them a card.
I also cannot tell you how grateful I was to discover after our fire that our French "daughter"--a foreign
exchange student who lived with us 25 years ago--had kept all our holiday letters. I now have copies--from
her--and it's a marvelous record of what was happening in our lives and important to our kids as they were
growing up.
I love getting cards from people with holiday letters and photos. A plain card with nothing means nothing
to me.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)As a family ancestry researcher, I'd LOVE to see that in my family!
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)We've never done photo cards before. Year after year we get cards with pictures of people's kids and grandkids, but we could never afford to do that when our kids were little. Our daughter was married the week before Thanksgiving, and there are a lot of friends, relatives and godparents who couldn't come to the wedding, but would love to see a photo of the couple. It's not a professional photo, just a casual picture taken during the reception. They look so radiant, and there are white string lights hanging behind them.
To me holiday cards are about reaching out and staying in touch with the people you care about.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Maybe they aren't religious but they're just marking the season...?
We've gotten a card of a couple, aging every year and scowling at one another, every year for maybe twenty years now. Wish we'd kept them all--it was a bit of a study!
Be happy they remembered you--next year you may get a pic of them eating their wedding cake top on their first anniversary!!
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)She told me that she has kept the photos that friends would send with their holiday
cards of their kids. So she has an amazing collection of kids growing up.
After our fire, she went through that collection and pulled out the photos of our
kids and returned them to me. I was so grateful!
MADem
(135,425 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)He got married in September.
I don't love photo cards, but we get a LOT of those, particularly from people with school-age kids at home. One thing I do like is seeing photos of friends' kids as they grow up. Most cards don't have anything besides the printed greeting & names, though.
I send regular cards - and I prefer to find old-fashioned-looking cards. I usually write a couple sentences to each recipient.
My 84 year old mother sends about 300 cards every year. She includes a hand-written personal letter in most of them. She starts writing letters & addressing envelopes in November.
So, it seems generational to me.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)It's turned into let's flaunt our lifestyles/accomplishments for the year. So I've seen things like a family in a pool with dolphins, or somebody in a BMW graduation gift. So we fight back with our own Xmas card warfare and the resulting Facebook tomfoolery is a scream.
MADem
(135,425 posts)There's no way I could pull off any of that actual "lifestyle" warfare....
I'd get one of the talented family members to put together a picture of all of us .... ON THE MOON!!!!!!
Now there's some lifestyle!!!!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I don't really mind when it comes to Christmas cards.
I love the ones from my sisters. It is usually pictures of the kids in different things throughout the year, showing what they did or just their smiling faces. It is pretty awesome.
So, sending a Holiday Card, to me with them showing whatever important things going through out the year is a-ok in my book.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)This has become a game of one up's manship that is stretching into half of decade of braging Xmas card exchanges. The gauntlet has been tossed down and everybody seems to be anxiously willing to go along with it.
It's essentially like an undeclared war that no one talks about openly except to other allies at the family parties. I admit, I now have an interest when the Xmas cards start showing up every December. There's a lot of, "that sonofagun went to the Great Wall of China this year?" or "shit, Joey caught a 10 ft hammerhead on vacation this year".
It's both fun & infuriating at the same time. Yeah, my family...we just aint right.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)of many a Christmas card. I'm serious.
3. It sounds cheapskate-ish, like they had these left-over photo-cards.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)even bother to send Christmas cards out at well. They were helpful once upon a time to let people know what your family had been up to over the year, but with social media they don't serve that purpose so much anymore. It seems like people who care enough to do it would do a good job with it.
begin_within
(21,551 posts)If they absolutely had to feature themselves on a Christmas card, at the very least they should have had a new photo taken, with a Christmas theme. I would be tempted to send a card back to them featuring my colonoscopy results and a little pink heart with, "Have an awesome holiday!"
bluesbassman
(19,370 posts)noamnety
(20,234 posts)I think they are sharing what's important in their life right now. It sounds way more personal and meaningful than a store bought box of generic cards.
Yeah, they may have missed an etiquette lesson about signing the cards, but I teach high school and a ton of my students don't even know how to write an address on an envelope properly; they might not realize they are supposed to sign it. But really, the signatures are often assembly line type deals anyway for people who are sending out a lot of cards. It's not like there's deep personal meaning in it if they hand write their names instead of printing them.
I could be wrong, but from the second part of your post, I suspect you just don't like the person much, and that may be affecting your view of the card. If it had been sent by someone you genuinely liked, you might have had a different reaction and been happy to get it.
I know if my daughter - who was also married this last summer - sent me a card with a photo of their wedding, I'd smile, and take it as a sign they are still happy and that they are fully appreciating their first Christmas as a married couple.
Disclaimer - I'm too lazy to send out Christmas cards at all, so I am very aware of the effort/cost/hassle, and I'm not one to be judgmental about what cards people send.