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mike_c

(36,281 posts)
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:29 PM Jun 2014

my heart is breaking....

I've been struggling with whether to post this for hours. I'm usually rather private about personal events, and it's hard to understand why we sometimes feel compelled to share painful things anonymously, with strangers. Maybe it's just because sometimes it's too much to hold them by ourselves.

Tomorrow I'll be burying an old friend. My friend Mango is an 11 year old male Balinese cat, one of two brothers that I rescued at 10 weeks from what might best be described as a small scale kitten mill. They have been wonderful companions and great friends. The other brother, Murphy, still lives with me but Mango moved in with a neighbor a few years ago, some time after my partner and I merged households and combined too many pets under one roof for his tastes. That's another story all by itself, but both the neighbors and I ended perfectly happy with the outcome, as I get to see Mango nearly every day anyway, and the neighbors don't mind me hanging out with him in their yard whenever I see him. In fact, two of my other cats joined him, so we have had something of a dual household extended pet family ever since. Mango is one of the sweetest, most gentle cats I've ever known-- not to mention drop dead handsome-- and everyone who gets to know him falls in love with him.

Several weeks ago I stopped by to pet him and say hello, but noticed that he seemed exceptionally skinny. He looked OK otherwise so I made a mental note to check with the neighbors to see whether there was anything I could do. However, with one thing and another I didn't see him again until last week and his condition was alarming-- he is skeletal, with a distended abdomen, lethargic and so weak he can hardly walk. I spoke with the neighbors, and they were absolutely beside themselves. They'd already spent a thousand dollars at the vet and gotten only vague suggestions of possible diagnoses, and no treatment options other than a single course of antibiotics, which did not help.

I took him to my vet yesterday. She gave him some fluids for dehydration and worked up an extensive blood panel, but there wasn't any clear diagnosis other than a very high white blood cell count. X-rays confirmed the fluid buildup in his abdomen but didn't reveal any masses or other abnormalities. Samples of the abdominal fluid were full of white blood cells. She suggested either "cancer, a massive infection, or infectious peritonitis" and sent us off with another course of broad spectrum antibiotics. I'm taking him back tomorrow for more fluids and to evaluate whether he has made any progress. He hasn't. It's awful to see him so weak, sick, and debilitated.

In the interim, I researched feline infectious peritonitis. When the vet mentioned it, I was actually hoping that would be the diagnosis, as peritonitis generally responds to antibiotics. Human peritonitis, that is. I've learned that FIP is something altogether different, a coronavirus infection of the peritoneum and immune system. It is 100 percent fatal, there is no definitive test for it, and there is no cure. The "wet" form that produces the distention caused by abdominal edema progresses fast. Mango is in the end stage.

If you've read this far, thank you. Maybe it helps a little to write about it. Tomorrow the vet and I will "talk about options" but there aren't any, really. It's just a question of how long before he dies-- days, at most in his current condition-- and how best to help him go. I had an emotional and difficult talk with the neighbors this morning-- he is really their cat now and I don't want to do anything without their blessing-- but they're a retired couple with limited means and are grateful for the help. We left with the understanding that tomorrow I'd likely dig his grave in their back yard. I will insist on doing the digging-- I wish I could do so much more than simply prepare a place for him-- but then I'll say my goodbyes and leave them alone with him, their grief, and the shovel to finish their own last words.

My heart is breaking. I know it seems futile to broadcast my grief to strangers, and I'm certainly not trying to start a conversation about it. I think I know now why people "rend their clothes" and wail in public-- it doesn't seem possible to contain such sadness. Please forgive me if I've darkened your day with mine. I suppose there is a PSA part to this: if you obtain kittens from breeders, insist on a coronavirus test as part of their early veterinary care. Watching FIP take a cat's life is one of the worst things ever.

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my heart is breaking.... (Original Post) mike_c Jun 2014 OP
Not at all, Mike C Blue Owl Jun 2014 #1
I'm sorry, Mike. Tobin S. Jun 2014 #2
Hang tight! Ahpook Jun 2014 #3
I'm so sorry. *hugs* GreenPartyVoter Jun 2014 #4
So sorry, mike_c. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2014 #5
I found a female kitten in cold frame Leme Jun 2014 #6
... TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #7
Very sorry shenmue Jun 2014 #8
I've been there - LiberalElite Jun 2014 #9
It's hard when this happens. Gore1FL Jun 2014 #10
I'm sorry, mike_c. brer cat Jun 2014 #11
If the neighbors agree, probably best to put him down so he doesn't suffer any longer Triana Jun 2014 #12
So sorry to hear about your fur buddy. GoneOffShore Jun 2014 #13
I am very sorry. bigwillq Jun 2014 #14
((mike)) blm Jun 2014 #15
I'm so sorry renate Jun 2014 #16
We Understand and We're Here for You Leith Jun 2014 #17
I'm so sorry, mike_c catrose Jun 2014 #18
I am so sorry, mike MissDeeds Jun 2014 #19
Hugs to you. 840high Jun 2014 #20
I am so sorry to hear this sad news... virgdem Jun 2014 #21
I'm sorry. cate94 Jun 2014 #22
animals make us better. you did your best roguevalley Jun 2014 #23
So sorry to hear about your sweet Mango, Mike. Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #24
I'm so sorry Metatron Jun 2014 #25
Love is only love when it's shared Tsiyu Jun 2014 #26
i'm so sorry orleans Jun 2014 #27
That is ok. I understand totally. glinda Jun 2014 #28
And my heart is breaking for you... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #29
((Hugs)) Duppers Jun 2014 #30
I am so very sorry... magical thyme Jun 2014 #31
So sorry LiberalEsto Jun 2014 #32
So sorry... Phentex Jun 2014 #33
As someone who has alsame Jun 2014 #34
So sorry you and Mango are hurting. yellerpup Jun 2014 #35
FIP is a horrible disease. hamsterjill Jun 2014 #36
I'm sorry, mike_c. OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #37
I'm so sorry, my deepest condolences. MerryBlooms Jun 2014 #38
Please accept my condolences. pecwae Jun 2014 #39
A vet in Scotland has been doing some amazing work on FIP Warpy Jun 2014 #40
Polyprenyl Immunostimulant hamsterjill Jun 2014 #50
Mike, I'm so sorry and I so very glad you posted cali Jun 2014 #41
(((((Mike)))))) LiberalLoner Jun 2014 #42
Sorry mike_c. denbot Jun 2014 #43
I am so sorry. nt raccoon Jun 2014 #44
The facts that pets die doesn't make it any less awful when they do. rug Jun 2014 #45
I'm so sorrry. snagglepuss Jun 2014 #46
I'm really sorry. Pain shared, my brother, is pain not doubled, but halved. -nt Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #47
So sorry, Mike. Granny M Jun 2014 #48
I'm so sorry - TBF Jun 2014 #49
I'm so very sorry, Mike. KatyaR Jun 2014 #51
Hugs for you and Mango Coventina Jun 2014 #52
update-- thanks so much to my friends who expressed their concern and condolences.... mike_c Jun 2014 #53
(((mike_c))) Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #54
My deepest condolances to you. myrna minx Jun 2014 #59
just hugs... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #61
So sorry, Mike Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #63
((((((((((mike c and mango))))))))))) my heart is breaking for both of you. no words can niyad Jun 2014 #55
I grieve with you over your loss of your friend. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #56
(((mike & mango))) irisblue Jun 2014 #57
I was 27 when I had to have our family cat put down. Jenoch Jun 2014 #58
godspeed, Mango... magical thyme Jun 2014 #60
I am so sorry. GoCubsGo Jun 2014 #62

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
1. Not at all, Mike C
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jun 2014

Relationships with cats are extraordinary, I've lost two to old age and I will be heartbroken when my current den of felines' time is up.

Take comfort that you had some good time together. In the end we all gotta check out.

I salute you for being a respectful, thoughtful, loving cat owner -- it's all we can do.





Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
2. I'm sorry, Mike.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jun 2014

We had to have a cat put down a couple of years ago and it was a very painful experience.

It's very hard to lose something we love.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
3. Hang tight!
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jun 2014

We had to go through this again recently. My little Maggie of 14 years took her trip on the bridge

I hope you feel better soon.

 

Leme

(1,092 posts)
6. I found a female kitten in cold frame
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jun 2014

no one would claim. 12 years later she got skinny, vet opened her up, advanced pancreatic cancer. Petted her once...she was under big time. a shot and gone. Had her cremated, the residing place of the ashes'' no idea.
-
Best wishes to you. I had little sighs for a few years.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
9. I've been there -
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jun 2014

it's very difficult. Please know that you and your neighbors did your best for Mango. Take care.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
10. It's hard when this happens.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:28 PM
Jun 2014

It's hard to lose something so wonderful as a loyal friend. The species matters not.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
12. If the neighbors agree, probably best to put him down so he doesn't suffer any longer
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jun 2014

Don't let him suffer for days. You are a good friend to your neighbors and Mango.

I'm so sorry.

renate

(13,776 posts)
16. I'm so sorry
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

There really aren't words that can be of any comfort in a situation like this, but you and your neighbors gave him a life full of love and warmth. He had a good time on this earth.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
17. We Understand and We're Here for You
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jun 2014

I lost 2 cats recently. One had cancer, the other had complications due to diabetes.

They're sweet and guileless. There's nothing like when a cat sees you, perks up his ears and tail, and comes trotting over to say hello.

It sounds like Mango had a good life with many good friends and families. You should have no regrets.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
18. I'm so sorry, mike_c
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jun 2014

You and your neighbors gave Mango a wonderful life. What a lucky kitty to have two households who love him!

I just lost my dear 9 year old Claire cat to carcinomatosis--cancer scattered throughout her body. We tried Western, Eastern, alternative medicine and plain old praying--and when she passed, her daughter and I were with her, and her daughter kept crying and looking into my eyes, like I should be able to fix everything. It's so hard when you can't.

I've had 3 foster kittens, 6 months - 1 year, go to FIP, and, yes, it's horrible. A lot of cats have the corona virus; it's a mystery why it turns on in some and not others. I'm sorry Mango was one of them.

Wishing you whatever comfort is possible and the strength for whatever tomorrow brings...

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
19. I am so sorry, mike
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jun 2014

I know losing a beloved pet can be devastating; I've gone thorough it a few times. Take care. You're in my thoughts.



virgdem

(2,124 posts)
21. I am so sorry to hear this sad news...
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:00 PM
Jun 2014

If you had posted in the pets forum, you would have found many kindred souls who have lost beloved pets and would truly understand the scope of your grief. We all understand how you feel and why you felt the need to post this. It helps to share your grief so that you can find closure for what you are experiencing. I wish the best for you and a safe and gentle passage for Mango.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
26. Love is only love when it's shared
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:35 PM
Jun 2014


(I just stole that from the last episode of Call the Midwife which I just watched and cried my eyeballs out at parts, to be honest.)

Playing it cool works for action TV characters and such, but real live humans are so much more.

Your love for Mango is carried on to all who know of it.

I hope that your tears end soon, and you are both brave and broken to share this sorrow, so I hope you feel whole again when your grief subsides.






orleans

(34,049 posts)
27. i'm so sorry
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:15 PM
Jun 2014

"To Those I Love And Those Who Love Me

When I Am Gone, Release Me, Let Me Go
I Have Fulfilled My Duty Here You Know
You Must Not Tie Yourself To Me With Tears
Be Thankful For Our Many Years
I Gave To You My Love. You Can Only Guess
How Much You Gave To Me In Happiness
I Thank You For The Love You Each Have Shown
But Now It’s Time I Traveled On Alone
So Grieve Awhile For Me, If Grieve You Must,
Then Let Your Grief Be Comforted By Trust
It’s Only For A Time That We Must Part
So Bless The Memories Within Your heart
Though You Can’t See Or Touch Me, I’ll Be Near
And If You Listen With Your Heart, You’ll Hear
All My Love Around You From Morn Til Night,
I’ll Forever Have You In My Sight
And Then When You Must Come This Way Alone
I’ll Greet You With A Smile And Say
Welcome Home!"

--author unknown

Rhiannon12866

(205,168 posts)
29. And my heart is breaking for you...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:00 AM
Jun 2014

I've been there and I understand. I adopt older animals and it never gets any easier. Thank you for sharing this with us. I hope it helped, just a little...

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
31. I am so very sorry...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 07:26 AM
Jun 2014
to you, to Mango and to all his family and friends.

There is no greater gift of love you can give than to take on suffering so as to relieve his.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
33. So sorry...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:10 AM
Jun 2014

it hurts to lose family and that's exactly what our dear pets become to us. Mango was lucky to have you.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
34. As someone who has
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jun 2014

had a lifetime of pets cross the Bridge, I know what you are going through. Words are never enough to express our grief when saying goodbye

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
35. So sorry you and Mango are hurting.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jun 2014

I made a deal with my Penny when her kidney issues became terminal that as long as she had appetite, we'd just rock along as always. She tried to fool me when she did stop eating by going to her dish and lapping noisily, but when I'd check it, the food was untouched. I let her go before the vomiting and incontinence started which is so distressing for them. She was down to a little more than five pounds. Here's a video memorial to her featuring her from better days. Wishing peace and comfort to you, your neighbors, and sweet Mango.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
36. FIP is a horrible disease.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)

We've seen it many times in our rescue. Reading your post, I am so thankful that your vet (and your own research) has given you a good understanding of the disease. All that you write is correct. But so many people - even VETS - don't understand this disease and that leads to constant confusion about it, because, as you indicate, there is NO definitive test for it. Many vets throw out this diagnosis when they've exhausted all other possibilities.

I am so sorry for you and Mango. I'm sure you are familiar with the work of Dr. Diane Addy on FIP. If you've not visited her sight, I would suggest that you do.

Again - my heart breaks WITH you. But I thank you with all of my being for taking care of Mango. I wish you peace and comfort at this difficult time.

pecwae

(8,021 posts)
39. Please accept my condolences.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jun 2014

Sometimes we need to put a voice to our grief. You haven't darkened anyone's day. You've shared real gut emotions at a time that's all too familiar to many of us.

I am so sorry.

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
40. A vet in Scotland has been doing some amazing work on FIP
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jun 2014

but even she hasn't managed to design a treatment for the wet form that buys a cat significant lifespan, although her treatment protocol has extended lives here and there. The dry form has been more treatable.

Mango has probably harbored the infection since he was a kitten. It turns nasty when the cat ages or goes through a trauma like breaking a bone.

Dr. Addie's site is http://www.dr-addie.com/ It's too late for Mango, but you can read about her ongoing research there.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
50. Polyprenyl Immunostimulant
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jun 2014

There are some positive results using that for the dry form.

Ironically, Newt Gingrich's sister is one of the leading advocates for FIP research after losing one of her own cats to FIP.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
41. Mike, I'm so sorry and I so very glad you posted
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

we are your friends and we care about what you're going through.

Eva

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
45. The facts that pets die doesn't make it any less awful when they do.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jun 2014

Pet him and hold him before you let him go.

So sorry you're experiencing this, Mike.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
48. So sorry, Mike.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:29 PM
Jun 2014

So many of us on DU understand how painful it is to lose a beloved animal. They are so important in our lives. Don't feel bad about posting here if it is helpful.

Cross gently, dear Mango. You are loved a great deal. Peace to you and your friends, Mike.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
49. I'm so sorry -
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:44 PM
Jun 2014

I rescued a senior lab once and he only lived 6 more months despite the amount of $$$ I was willing to pay the Vet. It was heart-breaking. It is really hard with the rescues because you don't know what they were subject too in their former lives. At least Mango has been loved in his current home and I'm so glad you are there to help the elderly couple with this transition.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
53. update-- thanks so much to my friends who expressed their concern and condolences....
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jun 2014

Mango went to sleep quietly and gently at 2:30 PM Pacific time this afternoon. His struggle is done. In the end, with my neighbor's blessing I brought him home and buried him under an apple tree in my backyard. I've just finished the job, and drank a toast to his memory while the sweat from digging his grave dried. I cannot imagine anything harder than that last drive to the vet.

Thanks to all who offered their condolences and good wishes. This is one of the things that makes DU not suck. I'll always be grateful to my friends in this community who rally around when someone is in pain.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
54. (((mike_c)))
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jun 2014

Just read your very moving OP and now this latest news. You were right to come here for all the reasons listed, and we all mourn the loss of your beloved Mango. He is at peace, but your words will ring on. You have shown astonishing sensitivity and insight into the condition you had to face, but also to the situation of basically joint custody. You acknowledged your neighbors' feelings and circumstances which undoubtedly brought them great comfort. Besides being a wonderful and caring pet owner, you are to be toasted yourself for being there at a very difficult time for the neighbors, too. Rest in peace, sweet Mango.

niyad

(113,257 posts)
55. ((((((((((mike c and mango))))))))))) my heart is breaking for both of you. no words can
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 09:34 PM
Jun 2014

ease the pain, but know that those of us owned by the furkids here on du do know, and understand. May Lady Bast take Her little one in gentle arms, and may all of you who love this wonderful little being find peace.

there is absolutely NOTHING to forgive. we are family.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
56. I grieve with you over your loss of your friend.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:36 PM
Jun 2014

The goddess Bastet looks down with favor to those that showed kindness to her children.


 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
58. I was 27 when I had to have our family cat put down.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:30 AM
Jun 2014

I wasthe last person left of my family in our hometown. Our family cat became my cat. I was only 7 years old when we got him. He was like a lttle brother to me. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do. (His kidneys had shut down.)

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
60. godspeed, Mango...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:16 AM
Jun 2014
rest in peace

I am so sorry for your loss, mike. I know that heavy, heavy leaden heart all too well. You can take comfort in knowing that you and your wonderful neighbors gave Mango a wonderful life, extra-loved by a special, extended family. In time, you'll be left with just happy memories... to you and the rest of Mango's family and friends.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
62. I am so sorry.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jun 2014

I went through something similar with my first kitty. She had feline herpes virus, and there's not a damn thing you do for a cat who gets that. I hope I never have to deal with that again, because it's awful. I understand what a nightmare it is for you.

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