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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:37 PM

 

Your favorite Medival Crime Family: The Medecis, The Borgias or the Pazzis?

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Reply Your favorite Medival Crime Family: The Medecis, The Borgias or the Pazzis? (Original post)
Taverner Feb 2012 OP
WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2012 #1
dawg Feb 2012 #2
trueblue2007 Feb 2012 #3
sarge43 Feb 2012 #17
elana i am Feb 2012 #4
Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #5
WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2012 #9
Brother Buzz Feb 2012 #6
nolabear Feb 2012 #7
Arkana Feb 2012 #8
WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2012 #10
Arkana Feb 2012 #11
Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #13
Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #12
Tikki Feb 2012 #14
slutticus Feb 2012 #15
Arkana Feb 2012 #19
unionworks Feb 2012 #16
fladem2006 Feb 2012 #18
geardaddy Feb 2012 #20
hifiguy Feb 2012 #21
SteveG Feb 2012 #22
Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #23

Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:46 PM

1. The Borgias

Incest? Maybe. Murder? Probably. Power? Definitely. Hubris? Most assuredly.

The Pazzi conspiracy against the Medici is also intriguing. There was an interesting documentary on it on History International a while back, hypothesizing that the Pazzi had interloped with the Pope and the Count of Urbino after the Medici refused him money to buy a few lands that the Medici also wanted for themselves.

But the Borgias were the crime family par excellence IMHO.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:22 PM

2. Definitely Medicis.

I want to be like Cosimo!

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:23 PM

3. the TUDORS ...... HENRY VIII murdered 2 wives

poor Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard


henry was a renegade, revengeful, hating man

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 06:52 AM

17. Buff Hal didn't handle defiance and disappointment well, but

legally speaking he only murdered one wife, Boleyn. The charges against her were certainly trumped up. Unlike cousin Howard, she was neither stupid nor reckless. Katherine of Aragon died of cancer and no, Henry didn't treat her well. Katherine Howard committed adultery which was a treasonable offense.

Because she agreed to it, Anne of Cleves was treated very well post divorce.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:37 PM

4. medicis. they appreciated art.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:07 PM

5. The Vatican.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:50 PM

9. Good one...

They've been at it for centuries

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:30 PM

6. Robin Hood and his band of Merry men

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:33 PM

7. Medicis, for the art.

I mean, DAMN.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:45 PM

8. Gonna go with the Borgias.

They may have had skeletons in their closets, but the Medicis were at least friends of the Renaissance artists. The Borgia family has NO redeeming characteristics. Between Rodrigo, who abused the papacy to degrees most modern pontiffs would blush to think about, and Cesare and Lucrezia the Incest Twins...

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Response to Arkana (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:53 PM

10. Although Lucrezia may be the reason behind my hometown's favorite dish tortellini

One of the legends has it that a chef from Bologna (my hometown) spied on Lucrezia and saw her navel, which inspired him to create tortellini and their distinctive shape.

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Response to WilmywoodNCparalegal (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:56 PM

11. I...don't think I'm ever going to be able

to eat tortellini again now.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:29 PM

13. Surely you have no problem with the occasional navel grazing...

Ha! I kill me!!

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:28 PM

12. Dude, how could you leave out the Sforzas?

The House of Sforza kicked ass and hired painters (including da Vinci himself--hired by "Blacky" Ludovico Sforza, the roughest of the rough and the toughest of the elite).

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:48 PM

14. I believe I am a direct descendant of Theodoric of York...

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:14 PM

15. The da Firenze family.

Assassin Bastards!

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Response to slutticus (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:37 AM

19. That would be the Auditore family, actually--and they're my favorite

because Ezio killed all the Borgias.

Or something.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:31 PM

16. Weren't the Medices

 

The patrons of Galileo? I| go with them for supporting science....

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:05 AM

18. Very cultured post.....

Its a tie with me between the Medicis who were both businesspeople and art lovers and the Borgias who were well.....Cesar Borgia is the model of Machiavelli's "The Prince". I mean we're still reading it aren't we?

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:00 PM

20. The Plantagenets

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:09 PM

21. The Borgias, which was no small accomplishment

given the number of homicidal cutthroats in Northern Italy during the Renaissance. Getting a guy with several children into the papacy was pretty impressive.

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Response to Taverner (Original post)

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 01:19 AM

22. Hapsburg's, Plantagenet's, Hohenzollern's, Tudor's, Bourbon's, Carolingian's,Romanoff's.

n/t

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Response to SteveG (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:12 AM

23. The Hohenzollerns? Don't make me laugh.

Too late. I have now chortled.

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