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Dad's upset about daughter's Facebook post (Original Post) XemaSab Feb 2012 OP
He may have over reacted warrior1 Feb 2012 #1
He didn't over react. baldguy Feb 2012 #2
He reacted the way I would expect a child to react Major Nikon Feb 2012 #13
What? trixie Feb 2012 #41
Did you mean to reply to me? Major Nikon Feb 2012 #42
no sorry, baldguy trixie Feb 2012 #44
You really shouldn't take teenagers hating you personnaly alphafemale Feb 2012 #8
thats a very cute and apt story for teens La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #15
My daughter actually went into a tirade in the car one day. alphafemale Feb 2012 #23
How peaceful and disarming of you. KurtNYC Feb 2012 #30
My dad had a saying about that Major Nikon Feb 2012 #22
I sense some 'issues' here. trof Feb 2012 #3
If he's an IT guy, he could have cleared out the hard drive & given the laptop to someone pacalo Feb 2012 #4
that's what I was thinking dana_b Feb 2012 #6
Besides that, a family with that amount of anger intensity need to stay away from guns. pacalo Feb 2012 #9
good point dana_b Feb 2012 #12
Wow. blue neen Feb 2012 #5
The problem is at some point someone needs to be the adult Major Nikon Feb 2012 #17
I agree. blue neen Feb 2012 #21
"someone needs to be the adult" Yep. The kid is only behaving the way this dad taught her to yellowcanine Feb 2012 #38
What a he-man. Ptah Feb 2012 #7
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #11
It's like he's saying, "you are smarter than me, and I will smash your belongings." Ptah Feb 2012 #16
When I was a kid... dogknob Feb 2012 #20
She got mad at her parents and she allowed that anger to drive bad behavior. Major Nikon Feb 2012 #25
This is what I thought, it is all about him siligut Feb 2012 #19
Must be a "My Dad is a Moron" reality show in the works... hunter Feb 2012 #10
That's some histrionic over-reactive shit right there. Chan790 Feb 2012 #14
maybe this is just someone being an internet tough guy La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #18
wow, that was fucked up and soul crushing. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #24
An episode of Cops waiting to happen. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #26
I found that hilarious and I seriously doubt that's his daughter's laptop. Brickbat Feb 2012 #27
That's what I thought. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #29
It is possible the whole thing was a hoax and he doesn't even have a daughter. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #39
Wow... one_voice Feb 2012 #28
Yet the woman who is married to him, requested that he put a bullet in the laptop for her. siligut Feb 2012 #31
I hope his wife has a job. PassingFair Feb 2012 #32
I am already thinking this guy has a personality disorder, he has so many of the red flags siligut Feb 2012 #33
He just has no clue on how to raise kids Major Nikon Feb 2012 #43
who wants to bet me on how soon we'll see his daughter on "Intervention" LynneSin Feb 2012 #34
I bet it's fake, I did not see it open or turned on or anything.nt expatriate2mex Feb 2012 #35
He's crazy. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #36
In a lot of other threads on this, people are on the father's side jmowreader Feb 2012 #37
The guy has become some type of folk hero Major Nikon Feb 2012 #40
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
2. He didn't over react.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:54 PM
Feb 2012

If only more parents reacted this way.

The only problem I can see is that he didn't get the hard drive.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. He reacted the way I would expect a child to react
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:19 PM
Feb 2012

If more parents reacted this way, more kids would be more screwed up. Parents who can't control their emotions generally get kids who can't control their emotions. You can't control bad behavior with bad behavior. The most important thing a parent can teach a child is how not to be a slave to their emotions.

trixie

(867 posts)
41. What?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:48 PM
Feb 2012

Ok let's break this down:

You take control of your kids when they are 2 not 15.
He needed a gun to control his 15 year old
He did this because she posted something on Facebook (I hate Facebook)
He then posted his "punishment" on Facebook

Looks to me like someone (dad) is all consumed with Facebook and has no concept of childrearing.

What should have happened:
He should have had control and the respect of his daughter from an early age.
All kids say they hate their parents at some point - no big deal.
He should have had every account logins of the daughters.
They should have discussed the matter and then he should have logged in and deleted the post.
I (perhaps not you) would have taken the computer away for a specified amount of time.
He should have pulled up reasons why we do not do certain things on Facebook such as people who have lost jobs, scholarships etc.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. You really shouldn't take teenagers hating you personnaly
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:11 PM
Feb 2012

I had a friend that raised maybe ten who said....

Just think of it that the aliens have abducted the beautiful loving child you've known until now. They've left a thing that looks just like your child but it is a spitting venomous thing that hates you. You still have to house and feed it. Sometime between the age of 17 an 20 the aliens will return your sweet loving child.

Yeah he over reacted. Best reaction to teen hatred is no reaction at all. They're not in a sane state of mind in most cases.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
23. My daughter actually went into a tirade in the car one day.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:49 PM
Feb 2012

She went through the rebellion a little early I think she was 11.

She launched through the various "teenish" hatreds. I let her go on and on.

My reaction. "That's OK. You can feel that way sometimes. But I'll still always love you."

I swear she snorted like a rhinoceros for about a minute. But then in a very quiet voice she said "I love you, too"

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
30. How peaceful and disarming of you.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:14 AM
Feb 2012

Way to go.

I'm posting Saturday AM and that video has gone mega viral -- up 6 million views in the last ten hours.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. My dad had a saying about that
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
Feb 2012

My dad was a UU minister and had an interesting way of looking at things. He said that when your kids are little, you love them to death and never want them to leave home, but god has a plan for this. He turns them into teenagers and then you can't wait to get rid of them.

I'm certainly not a man of faith like my dad was, but I can agree with the sentiment here. Nature has a plan to get your kids out of your house.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
4. If he's an IT guy, he could have cleared out the hard drive & given the laptop to someone
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:59 PM
Feb 2012

who needed it.

The mother (or was it stepmother?): Put a bullet in it for me.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
6. that's what I was thinking
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:05 PM
Feb 2012

donate it to a school, a community center - anything but put bullets into it.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
9. Besides that, a family with that amount of anger intensity need to stay away from guns.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:12 PM
Feb 2012

Especially those who use guns in their parental decisions.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
5. Wow.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:01 PM
Feb 2012

I don't blame the guy for being angry. 15-year-olds seem to be at the height of their rebelliousness.

It is kind of bothersome to see him using the gun on the computer, though. Maybe he could have put the laptop on the highway and let some trucks run over it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. The problem is at some point someone needs to be the adult
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:32 PM
Feb 2012

Teenagers get rebellious because that's exactly what nature intended. Rebellious teens tend to leave home and move away outside of family groups. Genes are dispersed which prevents inbreeding. The reason kids act this way is because for the most part they can't help it. That's the way they are wired. Parents getting angry and letting that anger drive their response only exacerbates the problem and is counter productive. Kids need to be shown that when faced with difficult situations, the correct response is to control your emotions and don't let them dictate your actions. They need to be taught that getting angry is OK, but allowing that anger to control them is not.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
21. I agree.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:40 PM
Feb 2012

His behavior isn't really teaching his daughter anything good.

Teenagers can really drive you crazy, but it looks like this family needs some professional help.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
38. "someone needs to be the adult" Yep. The kid is only behaving the way this dad taught her to
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:50 PM
Feb 2012

behave. So he can blame himself for that.

Ptah

(33,024 posts)
7. What a he-man.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:08 PM
Feb 2012


Is he going to smash the phone against the wall?

Shit in her garden?

Spit on her diary?

Ptah

(33,024 posts)
16. It's like he's saying, "you are smarter than me, and I will smash your belongings."
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
Feb 2012

He should be arrested and charged.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
20. When I was a kid...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:40 PM
Feb 2012

...my dad couldn't figure out how to listen to my phone messages, so he smashed my phone.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
25. She got mad at her parents and she allowed that anger to drive bad behavior.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:51 PM
Feb 2012

It's not too hard to figure out where she learned that from.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
19. This is what I thought, it is all about him
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:38 PM
Feb 2012

His ego is hurt that his daughter told all her facebook friends that he isn't the best, smartest, hardest working dad ever. The video was really about him. Posing on his land, talking about his tough childhood, showing off his gun and expensive bullets. If you read what they are saying on Youtube, they really don't get it. I am glad I am reading this here.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
10. Must be a "My Dad is a Moron" reality show in the works...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:15 PM
Feb 2012


Every fifteen year old thinks their parents are morons, a few parents go out of their way to prove it.
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
14. That's some histrionic over-reactive shit right there.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:21 PM
Feb 2012

Not even getting to the idiocy of the destruction of the laptop, that's some shit parenting I've ever seen.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
18. maybe this is just someone being an internet tough guy
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:35 PM
Feb 2012

to make a point and not a real parent (one hopes)

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
39. It is possible the whole thing was a hoax and he doesn't even have a daughter.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:53 PM
Feb 2012

Or his daughter is in on it and they are having a big laugh right now about it.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
28. Wow...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 11:13 PM
Feb 2012

he has issues. Every 15 year old goes through a rebellious stage. The fact he used a gun to prove a point to his child is worrisome. What he did was so far over the top, he acted like a spoiled child.

Way over the top. I'd be embarrassed if I was married to him.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
31. Yet the woman who is married to him, requested that he put a bullet in the laptop for her.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:19 AM
Feb 2012

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. This whole family has real problems.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
32. I hope his wife has a job.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 01:39 PM
Feb 2012

Because it would suck for her if he shot up or otherwise destroyed
HER things because she displeased him.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
33. I am already thinking this guy has a personality disorder, he has so many of the red flags
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 02:28 PM
Feb 2012

So I am thinking his wife probably does too, as like attracts like. And if she really went along with his idea to shoot a laptop and added her request, she is at the very least, an enabler.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
43. He just has no clue on how to raise kids
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:10 PM
Feb 2012

If you treat your kids with contempt, they are going to give it back to you. It's that simple. The sad part is his approach is not all that uncommon. He just was stupid enough to flaunt is failure on youtube.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
34. who wants to bet me on how soon we'll see his daughter on "Intervention"
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 03:04 PM
Feb 2012

Pick the time frame, drug of choice and what her excuse is for doing drugs.

My guess is about 2 years, either Meth or Oxy and clearly because daddy was a real dickhead.

BTW I respect the fact that she should be grounded and have her computer taken away but seriously Dad - don't be a Dickhead!

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
36. He's crazy.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 09:16 PM
Feb 2012

She needs that computer for school. Her homework is on there. She is responsible for that.

His feelings were hurt so this is how he reacted. He definitively needs to show the girl that he is the boss.

The girl might have had some legitimate reasons to complain. I'm certainly not taking this idiot's word for it that she didn't.

He might have been bossing her around too much or something. There is a reasonable limit.

Also what is "all the work she does around the clinic"? Maybe she should be getting paid for it after all.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
37. In a lot of other threads on this, people are on the father's side
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 05:02 AM
Feb 2012

Wild Bill Hickok here says he had to stop himself from shooting the computer when she did whatever it was that got her grounded the first time makes me think all Bill's dogs ain't barkin' quite right. And then the demand that the daughter pay for the ammo he used to destroy her computer? Didn't the Chinese do that when they still executed people at gunpoint?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
40. The guy has become some type of folk hero
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:15 PM
Feb 2012

It's pretty sad really. Just goes to show what a sad state of affairs parenting has become.



Betsy Brown Braun, a child development and behavior specialist, is sympathetic to the anger parents feel when faced with rebellious teen-agers. She even conceded that the video has high entertainment value, with the dad puffing on a cigarette while sporting a cowboy hat.

"The reason it's gotten people cheering it on is because parents are frustrated, she said. “ Teenagers are impossible. He was doing what any parent would like to do. They are living vicariously through him."

In fact, most parents have probably fantasized about doing something similar. The difference is, they thought better of it, Braun said.

"The sane parents have stopped themselves," she said. "The difference between a sane, mature person and a child is that the mature parent is able to stop their impulses and do appropriate things that can help a child grow. It may not be what you want to do right now, what feels good, but it's the thing that's going to benefit the child three months, six months, years from now.”

http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/10/10375389-executing-your-teens-laptop-might-feel-good-but-its-a-bad-idea-experts-say
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