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Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:59 AM

Los Angeles or San Francisco?

It is the Maryann or Ginger of California cities.




30 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Los Angeles
3 (10%)
San Francisco
27 (90%)
There are no other options in this poll: Do not answer with Fresno, San Diego, Seattle, Dallas, Miami, New York, Boston, Toronto, London, etc.
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Reply Los Angeles or San Francisco? (Original post)
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 OP
petronius Jan 2013 #1
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #2
petronius Jan 2013 #4
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #15
Xithras Feb 2013 #49
barbtries Jan 2013 #3
ellisonz Jan 2013 #5
KamaAina Jan 2013 #6
ohiosmith Jan 2013 #7
aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2013 #8
ohiosmith Jan 2013 #11
Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #9
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #17
a la izquierda Jan 2013 #28
harmonicon Feb 2013 #52
OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #54
harmonicon Feb 2013 #55
OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #57
harmonicon Feb 2013 #59
KamaAina Feb 2013 #60
OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #62
KamaAina Feb 2013 #63
aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #64
sakabatou Jan 2013 #10
Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #12
Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #42
Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #43
Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #44
Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #45
Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #46
Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #48
Denninmi Jan 2013 #13
Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #14
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #16
aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2013 #21
Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #24
Taverner Jan 2013 #37
slutticus Jan 2013 #18
pink-o Jan 2013 #19
hopemountain Jan 2013 #20
Bucky Jan 2013 #22
tblue Jan 2013 #23
pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #25
Initech Jan 2013 #26
a la izquierda Jan 2013 #27
OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #29
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #32
OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #33
Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #34
mokawanis Jan 2013 #38
KamaAina Feb 2013 #61
XRubicon Feb 2013 #66
LWolf Jan 2013 #30
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #31
LWolf Feb 2013 #53
fizzgig Feb 2013 #47
Yavin4 Jan 2013 #35
Taverner Jan 2013 #36
mokawanis Jan 2013 #39
YoungDemCA Jan 2013 #40
RILib Jan 2013 #41
Xithras Feb 2013 #50
coyotespaw Feb 2013 #51
OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #58
Broken_Hero Feb 2013 #56
XRubicon Feb 2013 #65
kwassa Feb 2013 #67
Zorro Feb 2013 #68
ZRT2209 Feb 2013 #69

Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:15 AM

1. Other: halfway in between!

Also, did you say Boston was an option? NYC? Paris? New Orleans?

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Response to petronius (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:18 AM

2. It's LA or SF

That's it. Paris, NOLA, Carmel, Anchorage, Oakland, Baltimore, Sydney, and Tirana are not options.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:27 AM

4. Hmm, your rules are complex and irritating...

I'll have to do some calculating.



(OT: just noticed your 'post to be remembered by.' Very powerful...)

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Response to petronius (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:46 PM

15. First, thanks.

If you are ever in western South Dakota -- seeing Mt. Rushmore or the Wind Cave -- go to Wounded Knee. It's not pretty, but it's very moving.

I'm hoping through the modern miracle that is social media to get in touch with one of the Spotted Bears (a member of the family ran for tribal President this year) and learn more about the three Spotter Bears that are buried at Wounded Knee.

Having said all of that: San Francisco and LA are the basic choices here.

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Response to petronius (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:05 AM

49. Pismo Beach?

Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to live there.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:26 AM

3. LA baby

my home sweet home.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:49 AM

5. LOS ANGELES = #1

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:21 PM

6. Walkable, transit-friendly SF

also, the only place where a real estate ad boasts of a "nice, sunny neighborhood".

In SF you can still check out females without wondering what they've had done.

Feast on sourdough, Dungeness crab, and of course Anchor Steam.

Yep, "49 square miles completely surrounded by reality".

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:23 PM

7. If those are my only choices,.....after ten years in Los Angeles it has to be San Francisco!

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Response to ohiosmith (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:37 PM

8. I've lived in both - San Francisco for me, too

After years and years in the L.A. area I've come to loathe it. If I could sell my house I'd move back to S.F. or, more probably, a little town in the high sierra to get away from it all. Or ideally to the beautiful, unspoiled island of Corsica. Or more precisely, to the sparsely populated wild mountains in the central part of Corsica.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:44 PM

11. I learned to hate L.A. Most of the people I had to deal with, even though professions, were

total scumbags on the make. The traffic was horrendous. I lived ten miles from my office but it took an hour or more to get there.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:38 PM

9. SF, hands down.

I loved living in San Francisco and Berkeley. I used to go to LA frequently, and I always told myself to keep an open mind, but after about 24 hours I couldn't wait to get out of there and back to the Bay Area. I haven't been to LA in a long while, but it always struck me as being, forgive me, a dirty pit of a city.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:59 PM

17. The House of Pies, Pink's, In & Out Burger

Easy access to Disneyland

Hollywood (even though the actual movie-making business is in Burbank)

Beaches where you can actually swim without a wet suit.

I've spent a lot of time in Berkeley, and I can tell you, it has none of thise things. It has many things I enjoy (and about an equal number that drive me #$%&ing nuts), but it has none of those things.

San Francisco does have cable cars; they invented Irish Coffee; they have lots of spoiled, overfed seals at Fisherman's Wharf that I enjoy visiting. It has really steep hills.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:12 AM

28. Pinks.

Drool

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:30 AM

52. SF has In-N-Out Burger.

It has for some time.

If you want to wait in a long line to eat a shitty hotdog, be my guest, but most people would think that's one reason that LA is a shit hole.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #52)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:44 AM

54. Go pay for overpriced froo froo food at Chez Panisse

Be my guest...wait, never mind.. I can't afford to pay for you to eat there.

My bad on In & Out Burger.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #54)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:45 AM

55. I prefer In-N-Out, thanks. (nt)

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #55)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:57 PM

57. Actually, I prefer getting my Hot Dogs at Top Dog in Berkeley

..but I digress

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #57)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:00 PM

59. haha. (nt)

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #54)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:18 PM

60. Chez Panisse is in Berkeley

in San Francisco, overpriced froufrou food comes from Gary Danko, and many, many others.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #60)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:04 PM

62. I do realize that, but it epitomizes all that is Bay Area Froo Froo

More important is this burning question:

Froo froo

of

Frou frou

???

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #62)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:06 PM

63. Froufrou

C'est francais, mon ami.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #62)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:15 PM

64. The west side of L.A. has its share of those fancy shmancy places

from Ma Maison to Spago.

I donít understand why San Francisco gets the reputation for stuck up people when SoCal has people from places like Brentwood, Beverly Hills, Belair, Palos Verdes and Portuguese Bend, Marina Del Rey and, further south, Bixby Knoll, Newport Beach, Corona del Mar, Monarch Bay and other hang outs of the ultra rich. When I was young back in the 70s, I knew a young lady whose mother had a villa at the sea in Monarch Bay and her father had a house with a private pier in Newport Beach. She actually thought rich people were genetically superior to poor people and she wouldnít have even talked to me if she hadnít somehow gotten the impression I was wealthy myself (I kind of lied to her because she was unbearably, almost intolerably gorgeous).

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:40 PM

10. SF for me

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:50 PM

12. If only it weren't so expensive...

I like the general vibe and the rich Asian culture, although to be fair, LA has loads of Asian culture.

Besides, when I fly to Japan, I'd much rather connect at SFO than at LAX. For some reason, SFO seems clean and well organized, while LAX is grungy and inconvenient. Unfortunately, flying out of LAX is often significantly cheaper than flying out of SFO.

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:24 PM

42. You mean, flying through LAX or SFO is cheaper

than flying non-stop from MSP to NRT?

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:03 PM

43. Yes, Delta has a monopoly on the route, so

they overcharge the corporate types. Big time. I have never found the nonstop to be the cheapest flight, not to mention the fact that 13 hours in a 747 with poor seat pitch is not my idea of a good time. If I could afford business class, I might consider it, but not otherwise.

In contrast, both LAX and SFO are served by many airlines that fly to Asia. For some reason, LAX is about $200 cheaper than SFO, perhaps because the airlines feel that they have to bribe non-locals to fly out of it.

When I went in June, I saved $700 by flying through LAX, and that included the spending the night in LA.

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:27 PM

44. So what airline do you take between LAX/SFO and Japan?

I admit that I have been tempted to fly different carriers on my trips back to the US to try to save some money, but I have always been concerned about missing the flight with one carrier flying out of, say, my hometown, and then having to forfeit the connecting flight with the other carrier as a consequence. For example, the last time I flew out of Arkansas, my flight to the connecting international airport was cancelled because the plane that was supposed to have come into the Arkansas airport was stranded at another airport. Since I was flying on the same airline all the way to Japan, however, the airline was able to put me on an international flight for the next day (with a better seat, I might add).

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #44)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:42 AM

45. That's why I always flly into my gateway city the night before

I started flying United when they instituted Economy Plus, and having met me, you can understand why I like that. Otherwise, coach is torture.

However, on my June trip, booking on United gave me a return trip on ANA, which I liked very much, so when it came time to make a brief trip for a meeting in October, I went ANA all the way.

No matter where I go, I try to avoid Delta, which bought up our hometown airline of Northwest and broke all the promises it made to get the merger approved. The remaining Northwest employees call it "fuckin' Delta."

I fly Icelandair to Europe (non-stops to Reykjavik with connections to the rest of Europe), Sun Country first class when I can (it's really reasonable) to domestic destinations, and United or other Star Alliance carriers to Asia (and United to destinations that Sun Country doesn't go to).

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #45)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:01 AM

46. I've heard good things about ANA

I've never flown them, though. I've heard that they were a little pricey, but they are not so expensive out of LAX?

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #46)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:48 AM

48. The world's sweetest and most helpful flight attendants

That's ANA.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:26 PM

13. Tough Choice.




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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:29 PM

14. I can't really say on this one because I haven't been inside

the city of L.A. itself (just on the freeway heading to-and-from Disneyland). But from what I hear about it, I wouldn't mind visiting. I have heard about Hollywood, the Staples Center, the beaches, and all the attractive women.

I live right across the Bay from San Francisco, and I like visiting it, but what bugs me is that they have most of the entertainment in the Bay Area. They have the best nightclubs, they have all the big malls, Golden Gate Park, and the Academy of Science. The only thing they don't have is a theme park, which Vallejo does have a la Six Flags.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:51 PM

16. I see by your choice of baseball team that you have a great mind.

Many years ago, shortly after dinosaurs disappeared from the earth, I was born in a small hospital at the corner of MacArthur & Broadway in Oakland. Here is what I like about the East Bay -- it has the view of San Francisco,which (let's face it) is what one really wants.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:29 PM

21. Another great thing about the East Bay

is that it's the original home of the most funkalicious group of musicians ever. I saw these guys in 1970 in their first public appearance ever, the opening act for Jimi Hendrix at the Berkeley Community Theater.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:59 PM

24. The view is even better when you live up in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:33 PM

37. Downtown LA is cool

 

There are some good restaraunts, La Brea Tarpits are nearby and you get a feel for Old Los Angeles...

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:28 PM

18. Smug vs. Smog

take your pick.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:11 PM

19. Do I really need to weigh in on this debate????

Oh, and BTW: GO NINERS!!!!!

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:19 PM

20. neither

even though i am much more comfortable in los angeles -it is ugly & i cannot tolerate the pace of life there. san francisco is much more picturesque...but not my kind of city....santa barbara or san luis are my haunts.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:45 PM

22. Wait, is LA the Ginger or the Maryann?

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:49 PM

23. Dodgers or Giants? NO CONTEST!

Lived near both and SF is the one and only best city in California, if not the USA!

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:05 PM

25. Van Ness Blvd. vs. Van Nuys Blvd.?

What can I say? I'm a Valley Boy...

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:00 AM

26. Hey the Dude is from Los Angeles.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:11 AM

27. LA

I miss that place

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:28 AM

29. Definitely LA. Frisco is to... well, ... Frisco. (nt)

 

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 04:59 PM

32. It never ceases to amaze me how many SFers lose their minds when you call it "Frisco"

My parents (I am not making this up) treated it as if I were uttering a curse word if I called it that.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:05 PM

33. LOL, really? My excuse is that I'm a dirty Yankee.

 

West-coast lifestyle never really appealed to me regardless of the city. I think AZ or NV is about as far west as I could make it and maintain sanity.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:14 PM

34. Frisco is in Texas

Whoever after due and proper warning shall be heard to utter the abominable word "Frisco", which has no linguistic or other warrant, shall be deemed guilty of a High Misdemeanor, and shall pay into the Imperial Treasury as penalty the sum of twenty-five dollars. - Norton I Emperor of the United States and. Protector of Mexico, 1872

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:41 PM

38. I got called on that a lot

I've always called it Frisco and I caught all kinds of hell for it when I visited a friend there. To me it just makes sense to shorten San Francisco to Frisco.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:20 PM

61. Bostonians are not terribly fond of "Beantown", either.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:25 PM

66. I met my wife there and she let me know about Frisco

You don't say it

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:08 AM

30. Portland. nt

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Response to LWolf (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 04:57 PM

31. I love Portland

However, it is not one of the choices offered.

I think, technically, it's outside California.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #31)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:20 AM

53. I lived in CA for 38 years.

I still pick Portland.

LA? Smog, traffic, earthquakes.

SF? Earthquakes.

I'll take the rain any day.

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Response to LWolf (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:24 AM

47. yup

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:53 PM

35. I've lived in both cities. My vote is for SF. I don't like L.A., but I understand why...

people like it. I'm not into cars. In fact, I cannot stand them. I don't care for them. I don't like driving for long hours at a time. I don't even like being in a car for long hours at a time. But I understand that some people do enjoy that, so I don't judge them.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:32 PM

36. Love and live near SF, but I like LA too...

 

I am not a Norcal snob

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:43 PM

39. LA baby!

Both cities are great but if I had to choose one, for a visit or permanent residence, I would choose LA.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:45 PM

40. As a resident of the South SF Bay Area...

I am obligated by law to vote for San Francisco.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:00 PM

41. LA got more than zero? I'm astounded.

 

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:34 AM

50. LA has a better beach. SF has a better "everything else"

I'm really not a big city person, but I've lived in both (near anyway....Berkeley and Long Beach), and given the choice I'd take SF any day.

I was sitting on Treasure Island a few weeks ago watching the sun set over SF, and I was reminded again about how beautiful that city really is. Honestly, for the life of me, I can't think of a single part of LA that qualifies as "beautiful". There are parts that are unique, and parts that are interesting, but for the most part the city is just an sprawl of subdivisions and stripmalls.

San Francisco...

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:47 AM

51. Duh!

Baltimore.

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Response to coyotespaw (Reply #51)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:58 PM

58. Go Ravens!

However, this is not an option in this thread.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:12 PM

56. Of the two, San Francisco nt

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:23 PM

65. SF. I lived in Oakland in 1989

Bonus for anyone who can name what I lived through.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:11 AM

67. San Francisco looks down on Los Angeles. Los Angeles doesn't care.

nor do I. Angelenos don't even think about SF.

LA is a great city. It gets bad press for no real reason, but I lived there for a long time and miss it. Wonderful neighborhoods and restaurants and beaches.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:20 AM

68. I prefer LA over SF

The weather is better.

But I prefer SD over LA. Weather is mo' better.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:45 AM

69. Which makes the most economic sense for you?

Don't leave money on the table, especially when you are young.

What are the long-term prospects for your industry in each place?

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