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Tue Oct 30, 2012, 03:20 AM

 

My coffee sucks! What do you suggest- percolator or french press?

I have been using a Mr. Coffee maker, but I don't like it. I need a change for sure. Would like to make some very savory, tasty coffee for myself and guests. Thank you in advance..

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Reply My coffee sucks! What do you suggest- percolator or french press? (Original post)
crunch60 Oct 2012 OP
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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:42 AM

1. Can't advise you, but thought I'd respond anyway...

..it's so late, you may have to wait a few hours for folks to wake up. In the meantime, can you make some coffee for meeeeeeee?

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:51 AM

2. I like the simplicity of the French press

Highly recommend.

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:54 PM

52. Me too

 

Makes a nice hot cup of joe every time.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:54 AM

3. French press

Richer taste, no doubt about it. But hold on to your machine for making it in larger quantities for several guests.

Also maybe try a different type of coffee. Buy whole bean and get a grinder; do it fresh daily. I used to do it that way, but don't always have time in the morning. Aldi's has really good coffee at less than half the price of 8 O'Clock.

I woke up around 2:30 and couldn't get back to sleep. Cheers!

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:10 AM

4. For simplicity, how about a plastic funnel that sits on you coffee cup?

You put your filter into it, and after zapping your water and grounds in the microwave (I put them in a glass Pyrex measuring cup--2-cup size), you pour the finished coffee into the filter.

It works for me. And I still have my old drip coffeee maker to drag out when I have company.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:54 PM

46. Get the correct filters, made with unbleached paper. An electric kettle is perfect for this, also

buy whole beans you know are fresh roasted and use a good, non-blade grinder so you get really fine grounds. Grind for each cup/day.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:13 PM

67. You can buy permanent metal filters for the pour through coffee funnels

Why the need to nuke the coffee though?

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:41 AM

5. They're both good for different things.

I stopped using a french press a few years ago because it didn't seem to work as well when not making the full amount, and it gets cold very quickly. Basically, with a french press, you have to serve all of the coffee made immediately.

In contrast, one thing I like a lot about percolators is that they keep coffee nice and hot and surprisingly fresh (compared to in a pot of a drip maker) for a long time.


Personally, I stopped caring much a long time ago. I'm not above drinking instant coffee, drip, or whatever. I do appreciate the good stuff, but I don't turn my nose up at the other stuff.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:46 AM

6. I like french press. I would google for various techniques. I know by posting

on this thread, I will now start getting coffee ads on my computer. Ahhh, the internet.

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Response to zonkers (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:19 PM

86. Ignorance

Ahhh, adblockers that have existed for ages and the people who still don't want to use them in the year 2012.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:58 AM

7. French Press and a Fancy Teapot Here

Switched from Mr. Coffee to French Press a couple of years ago. Will never go back.

We use an electric teapot, which was the most expensive part of this setup, to heat the water just to boiling. 4 minutes steeping the freshly ground beans works for us. I would also recommend purchasing extra glass (we also have a plastic) backup containers and maybe an extra metal filter.

Sorry I'm not more coherent I jus' got a cup of coffee.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:04 AM

8. I don't know about french presses

and I remember percolators from my childhood.

I make pretty good coffee in my Mr. Coffee with Caribou Mahogany. It is a luxury but well worth it.

Best of luck in your coffee adventures.

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Response to Bertha Venation (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:29 PM

19. It doesn't matter what one uses if the coffee isn't good.

I like Caribou, too. It's good, and it doesn't give me a gut-ache like some of them do. Gevalia is good stuff, too, but also very pricey. My only complaint about the two is that, unless one mail orders it, it's only available ground. I like grinding my own beans.

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Response to Bertha Venation (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:29 AM

72. Yes, I remember a silver percolator we had . Draged it out for special occasions

 

and holidays, made the best coffee.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:05 AM

9. What kind of coffee are you using?

the better the beans is more important than how you make it.
Most coffee sold here is little better than floor sweepings-especially Folgers

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:30 AM

14. That's not exactly true.

Coffee quality is important, but equally important is how it's brewed. The longer the water 'sits' in the ground coffee, the more bitter it becomes. Auto drip coffee makers, especially those that are slower from build up, make even quality coffee taste like crap.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:38 PM

27. I can't agree

I'd rather have good beans freshly ground with a wirly bird grinder and made in a Mr. Coffee that old crappy coffee made in an espresso machine by a skilled barista. Poor extraction may introduce off flavors and not extract the good flavor that you want, but if you start off with stale beans or even worse stale grounds there's simply no extraction technique that's going to get the good flavors back once oxidation has degraded them.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:00 PM

66. You've failed to account for 99% of coffee.

h2o.

Beans matter but so does the quality of the water. Bad water makes bad coffee no matter how good the equipment, the grind, the beans or the machine.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:03 PM

25. Yes, that's what I have been using.. floor sweepings lol, I will be

 

buying good beans from now on and grinding them myself. TX

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:40 AM

10. Anderson's Coffee, Austin, TX


Order a pound or two and see if that helps. Personal choices: Alfred's Blend and Kenya AA.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:33 AM

81. I decided to give them a try

I ordered a pound of Kenyan Fancy and their Red Sea Blend.

I put the Red Sea blend in the freezer for now. I might try it in the espresso machine, but I'll probably do most of it in the aeropress and drip.

The Kenyan looked quite nice. It looks to be roasted just shy of full city, which is just where I like high altitude coffees like Kenyan. The beans are uniform in size which is typical for a high grade Kenyan. I've been trying it in the espresso machine the last couple of days. The crema has been rich and thick which is a sign of a very fresh roast. It's actually a bit too thick and bubbly, so the roast is a bit too fresh. It will actually improve over the next few days. Single origin coffees can be a bit harder to dial in, so I'm still experimenting with it, but so far I'm quite pleased.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:04 AM

11. Keurig is great also

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:21 AM

12. Turkish coffee

Yum!...



Very strong, and there's no filter for the grounds, but still heavenly...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:20 PM

35. Boy, does this look yummy!

 

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:20 PM

42. It's wonderful stuff. I got addicted to it when I was in PA School.

I'd have some with lunch. It kept me awake for afternoon lectures. There's a terrific Palestinian restaurant on The Ave at UofW that serves it (heady and pungent with cardamom and other spices...) along with out-of-this-world beef and lamb gyros.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:27 AM

13. French press, hands down.

Also, buy whole beans and get a grinder. I like a nice dark french roast. Yum.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:13 AM

15. Percolator and a hand-crank coffee grinder. Best coffee ever.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:49 PM

29. The vast majority of coffee aficionados frown on percolators

The reason is because the water temp during extraction is at or near boiling which is well above the ideal extraction temp of 195202 F. At the higher end and beyond, you start to extract more bitter flavors from the grounds. For brewed coffee, I prefer to extract closer to the lower end of that range depending on the coffee that I'm using.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:13 PM

31. I grew up on percolated coffee (from like as early as I can remember). I still have the grinder.

 

It's a wooden box with a pull out tray and a metal hand crank. It's what my grandmother used to grind coffee (when we didn't grind it at the A&P) and it still works fine. I've got several percolators, including hers. There IS no better way to make coffee. That said, most of the time we use pre-ground coffee and a drip maker with a timer and 2-hour shutoff. It suffices, but it still isn't as good.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:11 PM

40. I have a few hand grinders

I have a few old ones which still work, but I don't use them anymore because the burrs are worn out and I haven't invested the time or energy into trying to rebuild them. Some of the really good ones will last indefinitely, especially if you can get new burrs for them. Many of the new hand grinders you can buy today are complete shit. The older ones were often made much better.

The one I use now is made in Japan by Kyocera and has ceramic burrs.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #40)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:52 PM

44. Kyocera used to make really good printers too.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:13 PM

41. I also grew up on percolator coffee....

and I agree that you can't beat it. The only thing I do differently is that I pour the coffee into a carafe after it is perked. We never had a carafe.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:20 PM

36. Why does coffee taste so much better

within 30 minutes of brewing? It ages rapidly.

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Response to pscot (Reply #36)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:05 PM

39. Generally the reason is improper storage

Coffee left in an open pot on a burner will degrade rapidly. For best results, store it in an insulated device like a thermos, carafe or airpot. A good one that's been preheated will keep coffee hot for many hours with no significant loss in quality.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:27 AM

16. Expresso...



...with 'whipping cream'.

There are individual single and double brewing pots available and less tasty 8-cup pots as well.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:10 PM

17. this is a cross between a drip and a french press "The Clever Coffee Dripper"

it makes the perfect one cup of coffee. I swear by this thing. I also use whole bean, fresh ground Kona coffee from trader joes

http://www.sweetmarias.com/clevercoffeedripperpictorial.php

Amazon sells them too.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:29 PM

20. This looks very interesting, might check it out before I purchase

 

the french press.

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:05 PM

30. I have two of them and I recommend them highly

Another great device is called the aeropress, which is a single cup brewer. I prefer both of these to a french press.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/aeropress.html

The french press does a great job, but the problem is it doesn't filter out all of the undisolved solids. So the coffee that's left will still continue to extract and introduce off flavors. This is true even if you remove the coffee from the press and put it into a carafe immediately after brewing (which you should). So a french press works great if you are consuming all of the coffee immediately after extraction. Otherwise I prefer other methods.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:19 PM

34. As I like to have a cup later in the day after an initial brew,

 

I think the aeropress might also be a good option. TX you sound very knowledgeable about the coffee making process.

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #34)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:21 PM

43. I've been into it heavily for many years

Even though I've invested a lot of time, money, and effort into making coffee there are still those who can easily put my best efforts to shame. Still I think I can make a pretty decent cup, at least as far as my own standards go.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:24 PM

18. Good morning to all ! Thanks for the suggestions.

 

I think I will start by using a much better coffee bean, I have a grinder, so I will grind it fresh. Then I will splurge on a french press, (Christmas present to myself). Years ago, I bought my nephew a Espresso coffee maker and he loved it.
When I lived in Argentina, I remember their delicious espresso, and of course Mate.

Starting tomorrow, I will be drinking real coffee, instead of this horrible "pee" water I have been drinking. Trader Joe's has some excellent imported coffee, so I'll try one of their brands.

Thanks again everybody, have a great day..

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:36 PM

21. Do you have a TJ Maxx nearby?

You can often find French presses there for a decent price. Be sure to check their clearance aisle, too. Every once in a while, they show up there, and are a real bargain.

I haven't had Trader Joe's coffee in years, but it has always been really good.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:50 PM

50. Yes, I have one nearby. Also, I noticed Ross have a clearance section, lots of

 

good stuff, I bought some wonderful honey there and use it in my homemade peanut butter.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:37 PM

22. Not to side track OP but question for the experts

I see that my Publix has a section of whole bean coffees - does anyone know if any of them are any good? How much can you buy at a time? How long do whole beans stay good enough to use? I'm willing to put in the work for a good cuppa joe - my current coffee is whatever is on sale in the freeze-dried packages... For years I've been approaching coffee as the thing I need to wake up. I'd like to try enjoying it. I drink it black.

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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:17 PM

33. Here's what I look for in coffee beans

Freshness is what matters most, and by freshness I mean the amount of time between roasting and consumption. Personally I will not buy any coffee beans unless I know they have been roasted within the past week and you're just not going to get that from grocery store beans.

There are a lot of good roasters that sell their products online and ship within a day or two of roasting. Sweet Marias and Intelligentsia are two good ones I can recommend just off the top of my head.

http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/

http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/roasted-coffee.html

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:35 PM

37. excellent

thanks!

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:39 PM

23. AeroPress or Moka pot

Aerobie AeroPress


or
Good old moka pot:


Then get yourself some good espresso from TJ's and enjoy!

I think french press tastes awful unless you do it exactly right, and its messy. AeroPress is a high tech improvement and much easier to maintain. Can't beat the moka pot for old fashioned, low tech delicious coffee.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:43 PM

24. If you have some cash buy a Capresso grind and brew

It is by far the best electric drip pot you can buy. Runs about $199 but worth every penny. My husband is a real coffee snob and moans and complains if he drinks coffee made with anything else. It's easy to operate and gives a great consistent cup once you find beans you like.

http://www.1stincoffee.com/capresso-coffee-team.htm

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Response to The empressof all (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:12 AM

68. Looks great, unfortunately, all my cash just went to changing all my hot

 

water pipes in the house. I'm tapped out of $$$$$. I'll same the link.

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #68)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:36 AM

76. It's pricey...

I put a little money aside for months to get mine that's how good it is. I like little luxuries and being able to get up in the morning to hot coffee without having to fiddle with boiling, grinding and waiting is worth the price to me. Besides I no longer get the running commentary every morning from the SO about the coffee not being "right". Now my only problem is when he gets into mixing beans in search of the perfect combo.......

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Response to The empressof all (Reply #76)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:08 PM

77. LOL.. bean mixing, I don't want to get to that point, kind of

 

like you, don't want to fuss much, just want to make a cup that doesn't taste like floor scrapings. I bought some good beans, ground them fresh, and used my old Krups drip. Huge improvement , actually enjoying my coffee now.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:52 PM

26. Drip coffee using a Chemex

Chemex - http://www.chemexcoffeemaker.com/

Use Whole Beans from a local roaster, I get mine from Mayorga in Rockville, MD - http://www.mayorgacoffee.com/

Grind them in a Burr Grinder - Coffee Elitists will tell you to spend like $500 plus for a burr grinder - nonsense.


It takes some attention, but not an obsessive amount......

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Response to Burma Jones (Reply #26)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:58 PM

38. There are reasons to spend a lot for a grinder

I can easily tell the difference between a low end and higher end grinder as far as the end product goes. Also if you are using the grinder a lot (I use mine several times per day), lower end grinders tend to wear out after a year or two. The grinder I have would cost you about $1000 on the new market if you wanted to get a similar one with the same capabilities. I'm considering trading it in for a better one that costs over twice that much. However, I'm using my grinder many times per day and I demand the highest quality I can reasonably justify the expense to get. Most people aren't going to fall into that category.

As far as what I recommend for others who just want to brew a pot of coffee per day, I always say any grinder is better than no grinder. Coffee should be ground immediately before extraction. Even if you have a $20 whirly bird grinder you are better off than no grinder at all. I think the vast majority of people are going to be best served by a burr grinder in the $100 range and up. Most grinders that are cheaper than this really aren't worth buying.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:25 PM

63. I'm in the +/- $100 grinder camp

But definitely a Burr grinder

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:43 PM

28. Do you want to bounce off the walls, or taste something?

 

Perc coffee is the best way to get the most caffeine out of your cup o joe.

Tastes like shit tho

FP is much more flavorful, but not as high in caffeine

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:15 PM

32. Drip with a dark roast

Forty years ago, the roaster at Graffeo's steered me in that direction.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:00 PM

45. French press but the grounds are harder to get rid of.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #45)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:08 PM

48. You will always get some undissolved solids with a french press

However, with a paper or cloth filter you will rob some of the essential oils from the coffee which contribute tremendously to taste. As far as most brew methods go, there's a bit of a tradeoff regardless of how you filter.

Most of the solids will settle at the bottom of the cup, so just as long as you avoid the last teaspoon or so you won't notice it much. My grandmother never made anything but cowboy coffee using only a pot and grounds. She would crack an egg in the pot to hold the grounds down a bit. It didn't work all that well and you always got some in your cup. You just poured the last little bit out before pouring a new cup.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:04 PM

47. Don't use an electric coffee maker.

If you want percolated coffee, use a coffeepot that works on your stove. Or boil water in a kettle and pour thru a filter that sits atop a glass carafe. Then immediately transfer the coffee to a thermos. And the percolated coffee is better made on a gas stove than an electric one.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:21 PM

49. The only problem I've had since learning about how GOOD Vietnamese food is...

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It's been quite a while since I've been to a Vietnamese restaurant and I had forgotten
a wonderful part of those meals was the coffee. A little coffeepot on top of your glass
with coffee grounds in it, they would pour hot water in and bring it to your table right
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It took patience, as it takes 10 minutes or so for your coffee to "brew" and drip down
into the glass. The bottom of the glass has a big dollop of sweetened condensed milk
in it and you stir it up -- then either enjoy it hot or over ice.
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Delicious -- and I think it was the method rather than the quality of the coffee.
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Response to MiddleFingerMom (Reply #49)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:19 PM

54. Beshide the visual appeal, the presentation, the corffee looks scrumptious.

 

I am going to get me some sweetened condensed milk. Never used that before.

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Response to MiddleFingerMom (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:08 AM

56. You can make it at home quite easily

They sell the metal filters at most any decent sized oriental market or you can buy them on the Amazon. The coffee most often used in the states is coffee with chickory, usually the Cafe Du Monde brand. The device usually comes with directions or you can get them on the interwebs.

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Response to MiddleFingerMom (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:28 AM

59. I had some at our favorite Vietnamese place a while ago...

love it. Love it love it love it.

Fantastic coffee.

I go there just to buy the beverages - coffee and avocado bubble tea

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:53 PM

51. the latest trend in coffee is "single source, pour-over".

That's what the finest coffee houses are trending for the last couple of years.

Translated: "single source" means the beans come from just one coffee bean farm. "pour-over" means that each cup is made singly in a drip cone, probably ceramic. That is the best coffee, according to the specialty coffee industry.

Dark roasts are out, and medium roasts are in today.

The trade magazine for that industry is www.freshpress.com

All that said, my favorite bean is Caffe D'Arte out of Seattle and I really love French Press but currently use a drip cone.



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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:56 PM

53. remember that the quality of the water is important!

Water should come from the tap after it has run for a minute or so. Fresh, cold water has mineral content that is important to flavor. Water that has sat in the pipes has lost those minerals. And never ever start with warm water.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #53)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:28 PM

55. I have learned so much from this thread, thanks everybody. So many

 

options available for brewing good coffee. After reading all the comments, I think my big problem was using bad coffee( pre packaged) Definitely will buy some imported and as Major Nikon suggested, look at the roasting date, then grind my own. I have one of those whirly bird thingies , so I will start with that.

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #55)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:17 AM

57. Buy an aeropress, you won't be sorry

If you're going to use a whirly bird grinder, the aeropress is your best bet. While it might kinda seem like a mini french press, it actually makes coffee quite differently than anything else, except the clover coffee machine, which costs about $11,000. Come to find out a screwy engineer invented a hand operated device made out of polycarbonate that makes very nearly the same results and costs only $25.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #57)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:35 AM

74. I was in Home Depot today, and just happen to ask the guy in appliances if they carried the

 

aeropress. So he looked on the computer, said no, but he gave me the names of a few places that carry it, like Bed, Bath & Beyond. Close to me so I will go there.
So he and another employee watched the video on the aeropress and how to make coffee. He loved the gadget and said he wanted to buy one for himself and maybe for Christmas gifts. So we are really doing great in sales for this company. lol tx

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #74)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:15 AM

75. You can get them online

They normally sell for about $26 which includes shipping, so be careful about paying much more locally. If you haven't gotten one yet, I suggest ordering one from Sweetmarias.com. Tom is the name of the guy that runs the place and he is great about answering any questions you might have.

Here's a great show and tell for using the aeropress:

http://www.sweetmarias.com/aeropress/aeropress_instructions.php

You can also find a lot of variations on the youtubes by people who have experimented with one. I use 14g of coffee which is the max my little hand grinder will do. This is the perfect amount for my tastes. Instead of thinning it down with water, you can also heat up some milk in the microwave to about 160 degrees, shake the piss out of it in a closed container, and you'll have a latte. The results won't be the same as steamed milk and it will be more like a cafe au lait.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #75)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:12 PM

78. Thanks for the latte idea, going to try thay for sure. nt

 

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:19 AM

58. I worked in a diner. They put a pinch of salt on top of the coffee in the filter.

Takes the bitterness away.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:06 AM

60. Your coffee will taste better if you grind the beans just before brewing.

No matter what method you use it's grinding the beans that really make the difference.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:39 AM

61. I just love my little Italian espresso maker

Here is one that is similar:

http://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-Express-3-Cup-Stovetop-Espresso/dp/B0000CF3Q6/ref=pd_sim_k_1

Just load it with fresh water and Cafe Bustelo and put it on the stove over high heat. The water in the bottom boils and lifts itself up through the ground coffee and into the reservoir on top so that the coffee itself never boils. Delicious!

Cafe Bustelo:

http://www.amazon.com/Bustelo-Roast-Ground-Espresso-Coffee/dp/B003BQNIYA/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1351687101&sr=1-1&keywords=cafe+bustelo

Enjoy!

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:17 PM

62. Get Larry's Beans.

You can thank me later.

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Response to RedCloud (Reply #62)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:22 AM

71. Must be really great.. $71.00+ on Amazon for a 5 lb bag. wow

 

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:49 PM

64. Coffee is for old people.

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Response to newcriminal (Reply #64)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:19 AM

70. I'm somewhere between 55 and death, does that put me in the old category?

 

hint....

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:59 PM

65. make it any way, but then put tons of sugar in it

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Response to Enrique (Reply #65)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:17 AM

69. OK sweetie!

 

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:34 AM

73. tried a lot of ways but prefer the taste of it made in French press by far--however,

I highly recommend getting a metal french press pot. We went thru 2 glass pots in short order. With one of the glass ones it burst while pressing and exploded steaming hot coffee far in every direction--a huge mess. Glass no more. Found a modernist, sleek Danish design press at Macy's several years ago and it works perfectly. Pretty too. Use electric kettle to heat the water--fast and easy.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:05 PM

79. I really didn't like the French Press I bought...

I prefer expresso machines.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:10 PM

80. Espresso maker

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:36 AM

82. this thread sold me a French Press

bought it from Amazon, it's supposed to be delivered today.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:05 PM

83. French press, every time.


Beautiful.

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:11 PM

84. kettle + French press

Ready for coffee or tea!

mikey_the_rat

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Response to crunch60 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:41 PM

85. The real problem with Mr. Coffee, along with all the other cheap...

drip coffeemakers is that the water temp doesn't get high enough. That, and off tastes in your tap water. The best coffee is ruined by either of these and while the worst can't really be helped, the mediocre can be made drinkable. I use a PuR filter for just about every thing edible and have tried good bottled water for tea and coffee-- bottled water didn't make much difference.

Before tossing a cheap drip pot, I took out the filter basket and figured out how to sit it on a cup or the pot to drip the coffee manually-- can be a PITA, but makes good coffee if it doesn't fall off.

Now I either use the Melitta one-cup drip thingie I picked up in Target for about 5 bucks or the French press for a full pot. I really liked my old percolater, but the newer ones don't seem that well made, and start at around 50 bucks.

Burr grinders-- Mississippi towboat captains who would obsess over coffee for the two weeks on the water when they couldn't drink their preferred alcoholic brews used only glass-burr grinders claiming metal burrs gave an off taste to the coffee. (They roasted their own beans, too.) Now grinders use something like Bakelight that can't be any better, but I use one anyway. Some of them use an unidentifiable potmetal, which may covered with Teflon and might be the mysterious Bakelighty stuff.

About the coffee itself...

I'll accept the death threats, potential bannage and whatever else for saying ignore the coffee snobs and just get what you like, even if it has a brand name. Should you be interested in experimenting, soopermarket bean coffee isn't held under the best conditions, but you can get little bags of it to test a new type to see if you want to invest in more. I'll admit my taste buds might have been killed after a few years of Army coffee and thenmany years of the pisswater on the coffee break trucks rolling around lower Manhattan office buildings, but I'm happy with 8 O'Clock Columbian and stock up when Waldbaum's has it half price. I've also been known to drink that stuff in the really cheap big red can at KMart, but preferably when "blended" with something else. Wouldn't serve it to company, though, but I drink enough coffee to use it up. Right now I'm working through a few cans of Chock Full O'Nuts I got on sale-- not so bad.

Trader Joe's the rare times I can get there, keeps changing its stock and every time I find a good coffee it disappears. Last time there nothing was terribly appealing, and none of the stuff that I tried was worth the premium. BJ's also has bags of beans from exotic places but, like with Trader Joe's, I've only been impressed by one or two varieties worth the price, and then next month they disappear forever.

Tastes, of course, are individual, so find what you like. But, you will notice that the method of brewing, the water temperature, and quality of the water have great effects, so you might notice changing just one of those could give you much better coffee with whatever you're using.



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