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Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:51 PM

Now that Rush looks like they will probably make the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame....

my question is this.

What other bands have been totally overlooked for the R&RHOF that clearly deserve to be in there. Remember this has to be a band that first came into existance 25+ years ago. So you may think Creed or Nickelback or Justin Bieber should be included but none of them have been around for 25 years (and if you think that you have wretchedly horrible musical tastes).

Rush has NOT been officially selected but I think they were finally included and will get the pick. Prog Rock fans have been complaining for ages that some of the greatest Prog Rock bands have been overlooked because Jann Wenner, editor of Rolling Stone Magazine, has stated he doesn't see the justification of Prog Rock music.

I'm hoping that after Rush makes it that in the next couple of years bands such as Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Yes and King Crimson will finally get their recognition. I also think that Jeff Lynne should be included not only because he is a talented musician (ELO, Traveling Wilburys and solo work) but he has produced some great albums too.

Who else do you think has been overlooked for the ROck & Roll Hall of Fame.

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Reply Now that Rush looks like they will probably make the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.... (Original post)
LynneSin Oct 2012 OP
leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #1
HopeHoops Oct 2012 #2
KamaAina Oct 2012 #3
HopeHoops Oct 2012 #5
dawg Oct 2012 #11
HopeHoops Oct 2012 #24
Systematic Chaos Oct 2012 #31
HopeHoops Oct 2012 #32
Tobin S. Oct 2012 #4
bluesbassman Oct 2012 #6
anneboleyn Oct 2012 #8
bluesbassman Oct 2012 #12
taterguy Oct 2012 #9
anneboleyn Oct 2012 #7
LynneSin Oct 2012 #25
hifiguy Oct 2012 #36
Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #40
sendero Oct 2012 #10
Amerigo Vespucci Oct 2012 #14
Systematic Chaos Oct 2012 #19
dawg Oct 2012 #15
dawg Oct 2012 #13
Amerigo Vespucci Oct 2012 #16
Major Nikon Oct 2012 #18
Systematic Chaos Oct 2012 #20
Major Nikon Oct 2012 #23
hifiguy Oct 2012 #34
Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #27
TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #17
Major Nikon Oct 2012 #21
dawg Oct 2012 #22
hifiguy Oct 2012 #35
Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #26
mac56 Oct 2012 #28
Dr. Strange Oct 2012 #29
Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #30
hifiguy Oct 2012 #33
TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #37
TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #38
cliffordu Oct 2012 #39
jobycom Oct 2012 #41
Yavin4 Oct 2012 #42

Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:05 PM

1. i have stated that idont see the justification of going to the hall. they can put in whomever they

want - gnr in b4 rush and yes - but i wont step foot in it and i live in cleveland.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:13 PM

2. Genesis, King Crimson, Deep Purple, Camel, ELO, They Might Be Giants, and the list goes on.

 

To be fair, I don't know if any of them are in the HOF. I haven't looked. If not, they should be.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 04:34 PM

3. Deep Purple is also a candidate for admission this year

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:04 PM

5. Good.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:51 PM

11. Genesis is in there.

But only very recently.

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Response to dawg (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:26 AM

24. Good.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:37 PM

31. They Might Be Giants, or did you mean Gentle Giant?

Personally I think they both belong in there, but TMBG seemed out of place on your list.

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Response to Systematic Chaos (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:42 PM

32. Well, I'll go with both. Gentle Giant is awesome too.

 

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:32 PM

4. Slayer

They've probably done more for metal than Metallica. Speaking of metal acts, I looked to see if Black Sabbath was in and they had been inducted in 2006. What the hell took so long? They've been around since 1968.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:30 PM

6. My peeve is no Little Feat. I don't care for all of these acts, but here's a good list.

The Doobie Brothers
This swamp rock band with down-home hits like “Black Water” also is deserving of a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame -- some of their biggest fans back in the day were the Hells Angels, and they’re named after reefer. What’s more rock and roll than that?

Joe Cocker
How is this legend that performed at Woodstock not in the Hall of Fame? His performance of “With a Little Help From My Friends” is still chill-inducing to this day (an no rocker convulsed quite the way he did onstage).

Peter Frampton
And here’s another of the biggest names not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Frampton ruled the world back in the 70’s with his talk box and songs like “Baby, I Love Your Way” (here’s a bit of trivia: Peter and Lois reveal that this is their song on “Family Guy”).

Heart
The ladies deserve some love, too, especially since it was quite a bit harder for them to make it in the world of rock. And no one rocked harder than the band behind “Barracuda.”


Foreigner
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is as “Cold as Ice” for neglecting this “Hot Blooded” band, and it’s “Urgent” that they get inducted ASAP.

Journey
Sure “Don’t Stop Believing” gets butchered a little too much at karaoke bars around the world, but there’s a reason it’s so beloved.

Steppenwolf
The band behind the song that will forever conjure images of the open road, freedom, and choppers is still being kept down by the man (that’s what happens when you’re “Born to be Wild”).

Steve Miller Band
Apparently “Joker,” “Take the Money and Run,” “Jungle Love,” and “Rock’n Me” just aren’t enough to get this Heartland rock band on the list.

KISS
Has a band ever marketed itself better?

Cheap Trick
They want the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to want them.

Bad Company
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn’t see the guys behind one of the most romantic rock songs ever, “Feel Like Makin’ Love,” as good company.

The Cars
You can thank The Cars for bringing to mind an image of a topless Phoebe Cates every time “Moving in Stereo” plays.

Chicago
If one of the biggest hit makers in the world (“25 or 6 to 4,” “If You Leave Me Now,” “Saturday in the Park”) can’t make the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, then who can?

Joan Jett
Another of the biggest women in rock has shown her love for rock and roll, but she’s getting none in return from the Hall of Fame.

Jethro Tull
When you can seamlessly blend a flute with hard rock music (as in “Aqualung”), you definitely belong in the Hall of Fame.

The Cure
Come on! Robert Smith defeated Mecha-Streisand!

Warren Zevon
For gals that don’t care for shirtless werewolves who fight over sickly-looking human girls with angsty vampires, check out a song about real werewolves -- the kind that from London that eat Chinese food and mutilate little old ladies.

Beastie Boys
You gotta love the way these boys rock their ‘staches and ‘80s sunglasses in the “Sabotage” video, as well as how the joke that was “(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)” went over every frat boy’s head. But they really deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame for combining rock and rap and being taken seriously.

Thin Lizzy
There would be no Metallica without Irish band Thin Lizzy and their “Whiskey in a Jar.”

Iron Maiden
Heavy metal bands with dark songs like “The Number of the Beast” aren’t getting much love from the Hall of Fame right now, but might in the future.

Todd Rundgren
Hello! Can’t this “Hello It’s Me” singer get a little love after inspiring so many to trade pencil pushing for banging on drums all day?

The Pogues
The band behind the best Christmas song ever definitely deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame.

Johnny Ace
It doesn’t get more rock and roll than killing yourself during a game of Russian roulette. But Ace’s “Pledging my Love” is also as beautiful and romantic as a song can get.

George Thorogood and the Destroyers
The man behind one of the best bar bands ever needs to buy each of the powers that be responsible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame one bourbon, one scotch, and one beer each while they listen to his entertaining tale.

Blue Oyster Cult
“(Don’t Fear) The Reaper” is one of the darkest, most romantic love songs of all time, but it’s also got a guitar solo that the reaper himself could rock out to (however, it could always use more cowbell).

The Guess Who
American women everywhere should be outraged that this Canadian band isn’t in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Screamin’ Jay Hawkins
It's Screamin' Jay Hawkins, and he's a wild man, so bug off.

Red Hot Chili Peppers
This band recently became eligible, so it’s likely they’ll eventually get in.

Depeche Mode
How can you “Enjoy the Silence” with bands like this in the world?

Supertramp
It’s only logical that this band will get in the Hall of Fame some day.

Pantera
“Groove” metal deserves a little love in the Hall of Fame, and nobody shredded better than Dimebag Darrell (you gotta love that the Cowboys from Hell were guest musicians on “Spongebob Squarepants”).

Stevie Ray Vaughn
One of the best blues guitarists in the biz is another late, great musician from Texas deserving of a spot in the Hall of Fame.

Judas Priest
Never has “Breaking the Law” sounded like so much fun.

Three Dog Night
When you think “Joy to the World,” you should be thinking of this band’s song (and you better be listening to your mama when she tells you not to go to that party).

Hall and Oates
Has there ever been a more cheerful love song than “You Make My Dreams?” And has there been a sweeter ‘stache than Oates’ lady tickler?

Of course, just as the Hall of Fame has let so many musicians fall through the cracks, there are probably some missing on this list, but these forty bands are a good start.

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Response to bluesbassman (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:18 PM

8. The Chili Peppers and Beasties were inducted last year. Heart & Journey - I totally agree.

Ann's voice! And Steve Perry's voice! Perfection. Public Enemy is another one that is mentioned frequently as a major snub.

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Response to anneboleyn (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:06 PM

12. Good catch, you're right. This list was from 2011.

I scrubbed out the ones that were on the ballot this year, but forgot about the ones that made it last year.

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Response to bluesbassman (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:22 PM

9. BOC isn't in? Really?

The HOF is a joke.

I get that some folks fave hipster bands aren't in. Fame should be a component of eligibility.

But no BOC?

WTF

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:56 PM

7. Joy Division/New Order & Kraftwerk!!!

Of course Rush and Deep Purple and Yes should be in the hall of fame. The R&R Hall of Fame is a joke for excluding mega bands like this in the first place. There has been such a massive outcry about Rush and DP that they (Wenner, et al.) are finally giving in due to the pressure. I agree about Jeff Lynne also.

They have also neglected the great electronic and new wave bands -- Kraftwerk (German band founded in 1970) invented electronic music, and they have inspired literally thousands of other bands (electronic bands and hip hop artists who have sampled their music) in terms of the use of synths and electronics. Joy Division/New Order (after JD's gifted lead singer Ian Curtis committed suicide in 1980 the original three members formed New Order, so I think there would be an argument for a "two-fer" as this has been done before) could be considered the most influential band as far as new wave was/is concerned. They also inspired a huge shift in music and many, many imitators. Plus "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is just one of the best damn songs ever.

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Response to anneboleyn (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:22 PM

25. Kraftwerk is one of the nominees this year

It's a really tough list this year because there is all sorts of win for the nominees including way overlooked Rush, rap legends NWA and Public Enemy, Rock Women legends Joan Jett & The Blackhearts and Heart, Classic rock legend Deep Purple, and Kraftwerk is on the list. Even 2 disco legends with Donna Summer and Chic were included.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/vote-for-the-2013-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-20121004

If you want to vote. Fans get a say but we are not the final vote for who is in there. Rush is way ahead. I'd like to see NWA and Public Enemy in there because they took rap in a new direction and are the grandfathers for East Coast (Public Enemy) and West Coast (NWA) rappers. After that there are so many great ones to choose from

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:03 AM

36. Kraftwerk should have been inducted long ago.

More people have stolen from Kraftwerk than anyone but Zep and James Brown.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:48 PM

40. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:47 PM

10. I love prog rock..

... but I hold Rush in total disdain, from their fingernails-on-chalkboard vocals to their pompous ( at least Yes wasn't serious) lyrics.

And their (at one time anyways) Libertarian politics doesn't help any. Anyone who thinks Ayn Rand had a point worth considering is automatically on my fuckwit list

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Response to sendero (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:13 PM

14. I see "2112" and the early Rush albums as prog...

...but not the majority of their catalog that began with, and then followed, "Permanent Waves."

Tracks like "La Villa Strangiato" are kind of hard to dismiss for any serious prog fan...it's one ferocious little display of awesomeness. But the Rush I heard originally was tracks like "Closer To The Heart," which...to my ears...sounded like the same, random REO Speedwagon / Styx horseshit. I hated it.

The new album "Clockwork Angels" is somewhat of a major return to form for people who loved "2112." It stomps like a motherfucker.

Rush are like the Grateful Dead. There are people who hang on every note and people who don't. In my humble opinion, the best of their actual PROG work belongs on the shelf with the best of any other prog band out there. The pop and synth stuff, on the other hand, belongs in the shitter...but that's just me.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 11:58 PM

19. Gen X'ers like myself needed the prog-pop of the 80s to find the golden age prog.

The prog movement is generally regarded to have hit its stride in 1968, and I was born the following year. By the time I was listening to the radio every chance I got, I was hearing what were then the new cuts from bands like Genesis, such as "Follow You, Follow Me" and "Misunderstanding". The really deep prog stuff was a bit before my time, so it's a good thing there was the poppier stuff to serve as a gateway!

That being said, I love 80s and later Rush. I can't help it -- it's what I grew up with!

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Response to sendero (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:14 PM

15. I don't have any Rush albums other than hits collections right now, but ...

their lyrics, their politics, and Geddy's voice all got better and more accessible as the band's career progressed.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:07 PM

13. Yes and Kiss both really need to be in there.

Yes defined progressive rock and influenced hundreds of bands (including Rush). Just because Jann Wenner hates the genre is no reason to keep this groundbreaking band out.

Kiss raised theatricality in rock shows to the next level, and they were *the* biggest rock band of all when I was in elementary school (although I preferred Boston). Their influence was huge.

There are other bands that may be more artistically deserving, but these are two bands that would be on the short list of most influential bands of the 1970's, and they belong in any hall of fame that claims to chronicle rock and roll.

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Response to dawg (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:16 PM

16. MOST people who did NOT grow up in the 70's 'burbs don't understand KISS.

It's like that timeworn joke from Mike Myers in "Wayne's World" about copies of "Frampton Comes Alive" arriving in the mail with packets of tide.

EVERYONE I knew had "KISS Alive" and "Destroyer."

There are many, many, many reasons to consider Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons to be assholes and hacks.

BUT...

...they...along with Peter Criss and Ace Frehley...still squirted out "Alive" and "Destroyer," and belong in the R&RHOF for those two albums alone.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 11:55 PM

18. At least one of the Rush members is/was a hard core looneytarian

That may not be the case anymore, but it didn't stop them from writing and performing songs dedicated to Ayn Rand. As far as inclusion or not into the R&RHOF, it should just be about the music for the most part.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:00 AM

20. They've often described themselves as liberal libertarians. Same as I do.

Neil Peart cherry-picked the message of individualism out of Rand's writings and didn't care much for the whole selfish aspect. After the album "2112" they pretty much let the whole Objectivist thing lie, anyway.

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Response to Systematic Chaos (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:09 AM

23. I have libertarian leanings when it comes to civil liberties

I just don't think it trumps all other considerations. However, I just don't see how you can channel Ayn Rand and describe yourself as liberal. It makes no sense to me. The whole selfish aspect was pretty much the entirety of Ayn Rand which was the polar opposite of collectivism.

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Response to Systematic Chaos (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:55 AM

34. Neil Peart abandoned libertarianism

after he lost his daughter and his first wife. He's an OK guy and a drummer of surpassing brilliance.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:39 PM

27. Absolutely! (n/t)

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Response to dawg (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 11:17 PM

17. I thought Kiss was a joke. A novelty act. I had no idea anyone

took them seriously until fairly recently. I still don't.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:01 AM

21. It's hard not to take "Beth" seriously, even if you don't like it

It's the only one of their songs I can stand.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:02 AM

22. They're no virtuosos, I'll give you that.

But they were huge in the 70's, and their live shows were quite a spectacle, or so I've been told. Beyond that, I can't help but believe that they were a huge influence on all the hair metal bands of the 80's.

Besides, they did Detroit Rock City! And that song rules!

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:57 AM

35. KISS suck. They have always sucked.

Had there never been an Alice Cooper (the band), there never would have been a KISS. And AC had a lot more good tunes.

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Response to dawg (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:38 PM

26. Kiss are garbage, but they certainly belong in there. More than any band since the Beatles...

they prompted kids to pick up guitars and drums. There is an entire generation of American musicians who will attest to that fact.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:44 PM

28. The Monkees.

Absolutely serious.

Wenner has a bug up his butt about them, too.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:08 PM

29. Matthew Sweet

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:24 PM

30. Jethro Tull!

But, they have been known to play a bit of the classical during live concerts:



Let's see Metallica play that!

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:53 AM

33. King Crimson, Yes, and The Moody Blues

seem to be the most obvious omissions. There's a damned good case to be made for both Emerson Lake & Palmer and Jethro Tull, too. ETA: Heart should be a no-brainer.

I am of two minds about Genesis. The early stuff with Gabriel and Hackett was so good and the rest of their catalogue is so bad.

Peter Gabriel deserves a solo induction.

I am just perverse enough to think Van der Graaf Generator also deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Also, Fairport Convention.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:12 AM

37. King Crimson, Yes, Moody Blues, ELP--I agree.

They were the big influential prog bands. But if you're going to go the VDGG route (and someone above mentioned Gentle Giant), then I'm going to have to counter with Kansas.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:31 AM

38. Iron Maiden.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:41 PM

39. I didn't know Limbaugh played any instrument.

Or rock and roll for that matter.......Oh, wait.....

Nevermind.

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Response to cliffordu (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:41 PM

41. No, she means the other Rush... Although the same complaint could be lodged.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:41 PM

42. Blue Oyster Cult

I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.

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