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Walt Disney shows how Hitler came *this* close to inventing the high five (Original Post) Bucky Aug 2012 OP
A couple of things: no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #1
I would imagine this took place with older children as well. krispos42 Aug 2012 #5
This was made in 1943. disney might have been a fascist before he did this. But, mucifer Aug 2012 #2
I'm pretty sure Walt Disney wasn't a fascist. Bucky Aug 2012 #6
Let me back that up Bucky Aug 2012 #7
Never seen that one before... MicaelS Aug 2012 #3
Disney made at least one more anti-Nazi cartoon jmowreader Aug 2012 #4

no_hypocrisy

(46,072 posts)
1. A couple of things:
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:38 AM
Aug 2012

1. I read a book about Disney leaning toward fascism. This cartoon suggests otherwise. Do you know if this short ever made it to theaters, let alone past Walt's desk?

2. Hans was born during the Third Reich which technically started in 1931 or 1932 after the elections. How could he be old enough to be a soldier even if this short came out in 1945? He'd be 13 or 14, still a member of the Hitler Jugend, not necessarily the Army.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
5. I would imagine this took place with older children as well.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

If Hitler's regime had not been stopped, if the US had not gotten involved in WW2, then when the Nazis had consolidated their hold on Europe and re-armed and re-manned their military, Hans and those of his generation would have been what we would have faced in the 1950's.

mucifer

(23,523 posts)
2. This was made in 1943. disney might have been a fascist before he did this. But,
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:07 AM
Aug 2012

clearly, he wasn't when this came out. As far as wagner, he was preaching genocide against the Jews and died long before hitler was in power.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
7. Let me back that up
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:29 PM
Aug 2012

from the Straight Dope:

For the most part Disney doesn't appear to have had strong political views--his politics seemed to turn on whatever it took to keep his studio going. It's likely his interest in the German American Bund sprang from a desire to forge relationships with Germany for possible film distribution there. On the other hand, there was a lot of antisemitic feeling in the Disney studio. While no one can specifically attribute bias to Disney himself, Jewish people were ready fodder for the animators' gags and Disney approved every scene in every short the studio made. In one scene in the original version of "The Three Little Pigs," the Big Bad Wolf comes to the door dressed as a stereotypical Jewish peddler. Disney changed the scene after complaints from Jewish groups. They didn't catch them all, though. In the short "The Opry House" Mickey Mouse is seen dressed and dancing as a Hasidic Jew.

Disney did have heartfelt opinions about a few things--he was virulently anti-communist and he was suspicious of unions, much like other studio heads of his day. In 1941, a strike was called against the Disney studios by animators and other artists dissatisfied that they got no onscreen credit for their work and were paid less than animators at other studios. Walt felt his company was more of a family and that the camaraderie compensated for substandard wages. He considered the strike a result of the "growing Communist conspiracy" in the United States. The dispute ended bitterly and hardened Disney's conservative and anti-communist attitudes.


He was a rightwingnut, like most Hollywood bigwigs (!) in the 50s. But there's a world of difference between conservatism and fascism.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
3. Never seen that one before...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:48 AM
Aug 2012

Watched it. First that that came into my head was "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit!"

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