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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:25 AM

Atty. General - Monumental Coward?



"In short, the Justice Department argued that it was lawful for the government to kill an American citizen if "an informed, high-level official" decided that the target was a ranking figure in Al Qaeda who posed "an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States" and if his capture was not feasible. While the administration's basic legal conclusions had already been aired including in speeches by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and other officials the white paper provided a far more detailed legal justification.

Some human rights groups dismissed it in language reminiscent of their critiques of the Bush administration's legal opinions on torture, taking particular aim at its flexible definition of what might constitute an "imminent" threat and the lack of any outside check on its claimed authority."*

In response to outrage over the leaked white paper memo, Attorney General Eric Holder differentiated between an imminent and immediate threat in ordered killings based on secret evidence. How is Holder handling his duties, and why does Cenk Uygur consider him to be a monumental coward?

*Read more from The New York Times

(This video is from the TYT bonus channel youtube.com/tytshows. Most likely from the Feb. 6 Current TV show.)

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Reply Atty. General - Monumental Coward? (Original post)
alp227 Feb 2013 OP
jjewell Feb 2013 #1
MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #2
Jack Rabbit Feb 2013 #14
Webster Green Feb 2013 #3
Unknown Beatle Feb 2013 #4
xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #5
Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #12
truth2power Feb 2013 #6
triplepoint Feb 2013 #7
plethoro Feb 2013 #8
another_liberal Feb 2013 #9
blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #10
drynberg Feb 2013 #11
truebluegreen Feb 2013 #13
formercia Feb 2013 #15

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:34 AM

1. I really hate it...

when Democrats turn out to be no better than Republicans...

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Response to jjewell (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:44 AM

2. Ditto, and I also hate when they are defended whereas Repugs would be condemned

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:03 PM

14. IOKIYAD doesn't work any better than IOKIYAR

We're still being screwed by bankers with impunity, we're still living with an administration that thinks it can circumvent our rights based on secret evidence.

And that's still wrong.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:57 AM

3. Yes he is.

Also a fascist asshole, and a corporate tool.

I hate the fucker. He is a horrible AG.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:02 AM

4. I never thought there would be a worse AG

than Alberto "Fredo" Gonzales, then along comes Eric "Pot Buster" Holder.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:04 AM

5. Amen to that.

Speedy lowered the bar and holder was happy w/ the fit.

Remember when the AG was a position of respect? A defender of civil rights? I guess I'm getting old.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:12 AM

12. They all want weak, co-opted AG's so they can do what they want. He has practically performed

oral sex on BP! I know what our office gave to him on BP and there was enough to arrest several top people at BP. We just fine them and "move everyone along, nothing here to see!" He can kiss my ass!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:49 AM

6. Chris Hedges, who is often roundly condemned here when he says

something less than worshipful about Pres. Obama, spoke out, early on, against the Iraq war.

When he was "guilded" (put on notice by the NYT and told to get with the program), QUIT HIS JOB rather than compromise his integrity.

Next time there's some "drive by" attack on Mr. Hedges because he continues to raise the alarm about our march into fascism in this country, that inconvenient fact needs to be remembered.

Eric holder is a disgrace to this country. And what does that say about Obama, who continues to support him?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:50 AM

7. Remember AGs, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, & John Mitchell?

 

Ed "Sleeze" Meese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Meese

John "Asshat" Ashcroft
http://www.thefullwiki.org/John_Ashcroft

John Mitchell
- dick nixon's AG. He at least went to prison for awhile for his involvement in Watergate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Mitchell

How do we manage out of ALL the people who could qualify for AG, to end up with crooks, liars, and cowards for AGs every damn time?




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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:21 AM

8. Holder is no more an attorney general than I am... Are there folks here that are starting to

 

understand where we're going? When the drones are all in place and everyone is made impotent in self-protection, how exactly are you going to stop the government from appropriating your Social Security? Can there be a time-out for liberalism where we have to hop in the ring ourselves just to protect our families?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:01 AM

9. Power corrupts . . .

To paraphrase: "Power corrupts, and life-and-death power corrupts absolutely."

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:39 AM

10. Another terrible appointment by the WH.

Par for the course, to stay the course.

1 Party, 2 Faces.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:27 AM

11. HOLDER IS JUST A BOUGHT TOOL

Toughest part of his job is half-assed pretending to do his job and not even starting to do it. Gotta think that HIS BOSS has the same shit on his hands...I'm sad to say. This is not working out well...

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:18 AM

13. And isn't it just ducky that he is one of the few cabinet members

staying on for the second term. Must have done his job just as desired.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:26 PM

15. Eric 'Chiquita Banana' Holder

Holder is a fairly young guy. How is he going to make his Nut after he's done as AG? All the good jobs are for the Corporations and Banksters he should be prosecuting. What, he should be a cloistered Monk for the rest of his Life? He's just looking out for 'Number One.'

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