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Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:15 PM

Former Fox News Reporter Tells All



From: www.davidpakman.com

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Reply Former Fox News Reporter Tells All (Original post)
celtics23 Feb 2013 OP
longship Feb 2013 #1
Delphinus Feb 2013 #2
SunSeeker Feb 2013 #3
gateley Feb 2013 #4
dpakman91 Feb 2013 #6
Cha Feb 2013 #8
maddiemom Feb 2013 #10
gateley Feb 2013 #19
freshwest Feb 2013 #20
6502 Feb 2013 #22
Mortos Feb 2013 #16
gateley Feb 2013 #18
freshwest Feb 2013 #21
gateley Feb 2013 #23
freshwest Feb 2013 #24
tnlurker Feb 2013 #5
Cha Feb 2013 #7
PatSeg Feb 2013 #13
calimary Feb 2013 #9
Grassy Knoll Feb 2013 #11
another_liberal Feb 2013 #12
mountain grammy Feb 2013 #14
pacalo Feb 2013 #15
valerief Feb 2013 #17

Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:27 PM

1. Looks like Shuster. Sorry, no BW for video.

R&K

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:33 PM

2. Glad to have

it verified from someone in the know.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:52 PM

3. David Shuster confirms what is painfully obvious. Fox News is a GOP propaganda machine. nt

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:26 PM

4. I really think MSNBC made a mistake getting rid of Shuster. I wish they'd bring him back.

And this is the second clip I've seen of David Pakman --he's good. I'll check him out. Thanks for posting!

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Response to gateley (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:53 PM

6. thanks!

Appreciate the support from DU, and we have some great paid members that are DU regulars, glad to have everyone's thoughts as always.

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Response to dpakman91 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:35 PM

8. It was a Good interview.. thanks,

dpakman!

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Response to dpakman91 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:51 PM

10. Keep on doing what you're doing, Dave& CO!

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Response to dpakman91 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:55 PM

19. You really ARE very good, you know.

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Response to dpakman91 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:18 PM

20. We'd love to see more of you. Clearest interviews ever. Thanks.

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Response to dpakman91 (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:39 AM

22. [Hi, Packman]=> Way to go missing the slow ball...

The fellow you were interviewing said something there were shenanigans in Florida and that "both sides were doing it".

That was a perfect opportunity to follow up and ask the your "guest" to clarify and quantify what he meant when he said it.

Why didn't you do the simple follow-up?
That was a false equivalence slow pitch and you didn't swing it.

I mean, he essentially did something like saying,

"Yeah, there was lots of meat and fish at the banquette and both the vegetarians and non-vegetarians were eating meat."


Now, anybody who just read what I wrote immediately would say something like:

Why that doesn't make sense. The vegetarians I know that would even eat meat at a banquetee usually would have done so by total accident.


You see how I did that?
That's "false equivalence".
And I didn't just slow-ball it...
I walked this one right up to the batter.

And with nobody to call me on it, I just made it seem like there was a even split of vegetarians and omnivores eating meat at the banquette.

I hope to see you (heck, or anybody) actually hold people accountable for false equivalence crap.

Recently, I've heard stories that Soledad O'Brien, the lady on CNN, has been grabbing false-equivalence and weasel-words types by the throat and throttling them on air.

That takes guts.

At least call them out on "false equivalence" stuff.
And be merciless.

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Response to gateley (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:12 PM

16. David Pakman has an excellent free podcast

I listen to him and my pretend girlfriend, Rachel Maddow, on the free Stitcher app. His show is really good, very calm and measured delivery.

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Response to Mortos (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:54 PM

18. I've really enjoyed him when someone has posted a clip. Just subscribed

to his mailing list. I'll definitely check him out on the podcast!!

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Response to gateley (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:19 PM

21. I didn't know that. I've subscribed to StevenLeser's as well.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #21)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:17 AM

23. Thanks -- I'll check him out, too!

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Response to gateley (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:28 AM

24. Yep, just listened to DP's latests and SL's with Ida Briggs.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:46 PM

5. I'll watch this later

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:34 PM

7. Oh Wow.. I enjoyed that.. hearing from

David Shuster.. been awhile. Thanks celtics.

Yeah, he has it exactly right.. the difference between faux and msnbc is REALITY. As in msnbc is mostly dealing in reality and faux?.. Never.

I hadn't had a tv for a long time before getting one back in 1999. So, I checked out fox as a new adventure in "news" and it took me about 2 weeks to see what they were doing to Al Gore.. and, I banned them forever. Now look how far they've gone down the drain.

I don't even have a tv anymore.. love my laptop.

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:16 PM

13. Also

there are a lot of conservative voices on MSNBC. Morning Joe is more conservative than liberal most of the time.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:36 PM

9. Shuster's not at Current anymore?

I lost track after Olbermann left there, and I haven't been paying much attention since then.

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Response to calimary (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:52 PM

11. He's on the radio in some places.....

and will do guest spots for Bill Press and Stephanie Miller on Current.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:14 PM

12. It's ,"Catching up . . ."

The strategy of pushing a Right Wing agenda is, "Catching up with Fox News."

I would have said they are finally drowning in their own B.S. Before long, perhaps, Roger Ailes will be writing a tell-all book about his relationship with the Murdochs. (I'll buy it!)

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:16 PM

14. That was an excellent interview, great information.

After the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, I turned on Shep Smith every day at 5. His newscasts were the best. Smith is the only one on Fox I can stand to watch, his coverage of the inauguration was good too.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:42 PM

15. Fixed News' viewers are tuning out due to the credibility gap & the lower ratings

indicate a longer-term shift. People want accurate information regardless of their pre-existing political views.



Good interview.




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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:45 PM

17. Thanks. Good clip. nt

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