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Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:25 AM

Training Tea Party Activists In Guerilla Internet Tactics - BUSTED!

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Reply Training Tea Party Activists In Guerilla Internet Tactics - BUSTED! (Original post)
SecularMotion Jan 2013 OP
Robb Jan 2013 #1
Plucketeer Jan 2013 #18
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #27
mazzarro Jan 2013 #2
Pryderi Jan 2013 #6
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #28
zeemike Jan 2013 #7
raouldukelives Jan 2013 #13
life long demo Jan 2013 #3
MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #4
Pryderi Jan 2013 #5
Janecita Jan 2013 #8
DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #31
Janecita Jan 2013 #34
skypilot Jan 2013 #9
gtar100 Jan 2013 #10
JaneyVee Jan 2013 #11
AllyCat Jan 2013 #17
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #12
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #14
Heather MC Jan 2013 #36
Sunlei Jan 2013 #15
NinetySix Jan 2013 #16
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #19
vaberella Jan 2013 #22
blackspade Jan 2013 #20
Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #21
Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #23
Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #33
reverend_tim Jan 2013 #24
PA Democrat Jan 2013 #25
dballance Jan 2013 #29
arcane1 Jan 2013 #26
libodem Jan 2013 #30
patrice Jan 2013 #32
Heather MC Jan 2013 #35
Dj13Francis Jan 2013 #37
Mkap Jan 2013 #38
thinkerman Sep 2014 #39

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:44 AM

1. "Make no distinctions about it!"

"80% of the books I put a star on, I don't read!"

... Clearly.

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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:24 AM

18. I'm having a problem with his directive...

"They were activists then - you are activists now - make no distinction about it!" Wait a minute! Isn't he telling them that what he just said is not for them to believe??? My head hurts.

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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:38 PM

27. I love idiots who brag about being uninformed.

"Hell, if I don't read it, it don't exist! Am I right?"

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:03 AM

2. So - we'll do the same

Throw their BS back at them - we should go to their sites and crap-rate their stupid books as well. Though their books are mostly fantasy based, still we must go toe-to-toe with them!

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Response to mazzarro (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:11 AM

6. They also have paid teams of people editing wikipedia articles. n/t

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Response to Pryderi (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:39 PM

28. Do you have an example of a wikipedia article that contains false information with a right slant?

That would be good to know!

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Response to mazzarro (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:18 AM

7. Good idea but.

they have millions of dollars to spend to control the message and we have shit..
Who is going to hire some big buses and pay some people to go around training activists to do this?
Besides they can keep us so busy defending ourselves (and dealing with the trolls they create) that we don't have time to actively work against them.
Our problem is that they can buy what they want...politicians, and all...and can control the message....and they do.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:50 AM

13. And its double sad that many of those millions come from our side.

As long as the pay is good, you can find people to support anything.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:52 AM

3. Hmmm! I didn't know they could read. lol

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:05 AM

4. I try to avoid using the following adjectives

but what a bunch of stupid fascist fucktards.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:10 AM

5. I own the Astroturf wars DVD. Very good documentary. n/t

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:19 AM

8. What a freaking punk!!!

And his use of the word guerrilla is truly laughable. As the grandaughter of a Sierra Maestra fighter, it drives me nuts when idiots, like this dude, use words that they don't even know the meaning of, to explain their childish political shenanigans!!!

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Response to Janecita (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:47 PM

31. Did he pronounce it like "gorilla"?

That always cracks me up.

Viva tu Abuelo!

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:12 PM

34. Mi abuelo

Was super awesome!! The way that they say Guevara is even worse! Sounds like they are talking about testicles Poor Che!

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:32 AM

9. Fucking loser.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:39 AM

10. More proof that they have to deceive in order to win.

They have a problem with their books and movies because they are nonsense, not because of some liberal conspiracy.

I've got a radical idea for these radical modern patriots. If they want to win people over, come up with solutions that actually fix problems and make people's lives better.

But they can't come up with good ideas for addressing economic and social problems. It's not their objective to actually help people (even if that help is to show how to grip bootstraps better). So instead, they spend millions of dollars on misinformation and muddying the waters.

This is truly a shameful activity this young man was involved in. Similar to something Thomm Hartman reported about conservative "think" tanks literally rewriting Wikipedia.

Wasn't one of the names for the devil "Deceiver"?

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:43 AM

11. Gee, I wonder how many of our founders gave the Constitution a 1 star rating on Amazon w/o

reading it?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:18 AM

17. yeah that

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:48 AM

12. they're doing this because the propaganda that's been

shoved at us since the election of St. Ronnie is no longer working. People are beginning to understand that the "trickle down" supply side economics really is voodoo economics and only works for the rich. Fox news is losing ratings and they are nervous. Obama's no FDR, but he's too close for comfort for the billionaires running the show. The only reason they still have the House is because of fraud and deceit and they know it. It's hard to smear liberals when they're, you know, patriotic Americans like veterans and old ladies like me, and even some wealthy capitalists.
I think this is when the extremists are most dangerous. A dying facist fights even harder, and they sure do have the weapons for it.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:53 AM

14. Looks like a lot of empty seats, must have been a spelling test for admission.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:05 PM

36. The Empty seats are for the people who talk to empty chairs

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:56 AM

15. The 'good guy team' makes them spend billions on paid shills, lollolll :)

They do buy media, own fox-lies, buy messageboards, I think they bought Digg not to long ago,they slap-suit people to shut them up, remove comment sections from the media they buy. They buy their own books using campaign money to make a "Pretend-best seller", write their own science 'reports' and spam emails full of lies.

This costs them billions to support paid propaganda campaigns.

I like the way the internet is the big equaliser and a lot of 'we the people' work free.

Good thing they can't exterminate their 'political enemy or they would.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:05 AM

16. Huzzah for intellectual dishonesty!

 

Just like the Founding Fathers!

I'll bet if Jefferson could have gone to Amazon.com and given five stars to Thomas Paine's "The Crisis," he would have done exactly that...WITHOUT EVEN READING IT!

Who needs reason? Who needs to resort to the difficult work of fashioning persuasive, logically valid arguments to support a political position; and in this fast-paced modern world, who has the time?! Thank God we can just click our way to unreasoned popular consensus!

Now what we really need is a good, strong, charismatic demagogue to do all our thinkin' for us....

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:36 AM

19. I thought these clowns liked free markets?

Guess not, fucking around with ratings and reviews for non-market purposes.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:50 PM

22. Uh...That's why they love it.

It's free market with little regulation. Little regulation means massive misuse and manipulation of the market to suit your needs. I remember playing on the Star Trek Wallstreet games...by developing friendship with guys who controlled the market I was able to extinct doom. It teaches you how the real world works.

Just so you believe me...I found a stray article on the premise of the game: http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2006/03/08/g4-makes-star-trek-interactive/

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:09 PM

20. Damn.

'Give our ideas a fighting chance'


No. I don't think so. Your ideas suck.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:23 PM

21. I love how he's basically admitting that without intellectual dishonesty

his ideas wouldn't have a fighting chance. There's a reason for that asshole. It's because your ideas suck.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:45 PM

23. They get paid for their services.

Ever wonder why sites are loaded with teaklan nonsense? This is why.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:17 PM

33. Actually, yes.

I've always wondered why youtube and amazon seem to be crawling with Teahadists. Some of the commentary on youtube makes Sara Palin look like an accomplished public speaker.

After seeing this video, it makes a lot more sense. It also makes me glad for all the time I've engaged them over the years. It seems like such a waste of time arguing with them, and the truth is, it is, because they're never going to change their minds because all they are paid whores. But it's important not to let them just take over social media.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:55 PM

24. at least the room was only half full

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:26 PM

25. I disregard ratings without substantive commentary

or with talking points that do not address the content of the book/ film. In fact, on websites that give you the option of rating comments as helpful or not helpful, I try to take time to give positive ratings to thoughtful comments. This guy is wasting his time with informed consumers.

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Response to PA Democrat (Reply #25)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:40 PM

29. Same Here

If I'm truly interested in a book or movie I'm going to do more than pay attention to the average "stars" rating. I'm going to read both good and bad reviews. So they're not going to dissuade consumers who want to be informed. However, I just wonder how many people out there do just pay attention to the average ratings only.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:35 PM

26. Kicking for later!

:kick:

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:47 PM

30. Poison Pen Presses

Evil, calculating, deceptive, wrong.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:57 PM

32. EXPLOITERS 'r' "us".

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:02 PM

35. Do people pay for this???

I mean seriously do they think people live there life based on what some anonymous person thought about book?

I can't tell you how many Netflix movies I have watched and enjoyed in spite the dreaded 1 or two start rating LOL

How said he has nothing better to do, but I feel even more sorry for the idiots actually listening to him. their lives must be pathetic

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:59 PM

37. Why is it

that I've got an overwhelming urge to punch this assclown right in his stupid face?

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:09 PM

38. ohh wow

So what the hell is the one word per slide powerpoint for??.....just so you don't have to look at the assclown talking?

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 02:12 PM

39. Two ironies: neither truly American, nor a majority

The first irony is that what American Majority stands for is fundamentally anti-American in that it subverts the first requirement of democracy: an informed citizenry. Not a propagandized citizenry, not a bought and paid for citizenry, but a thoughtfully engaged citizenry.

The second irony is, these guys in the American Majority are in the minority. Polls show most Americans are actually liberal.

Certainly a majority of Americans would deplore these tactics, and would support fair and honest debate over this kind of intellectual dishonesty which seeks to gain influence through trickery and cheating the system. These are people who know their message can't stand on its merits, so they morally degrade themselves to seek power through duplicity.

One is tempted to respond in kind, but we don't have this mentality and shouldn't learn it. We should however compete through greater cooperation and relentlessly promoting truth. In the long run, truth will win out. Well, usually.

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