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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:29 PM Jan 2013

video: Roger Hedgecock blames shark attacks on liberals


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"The response of the crazy environmentalist mentality that runs this state has been to gin up some studies that show the Great White should be placed on the endangered species list because we need to protect them, there's not that many. Now so far, I dont know of anybody that's killed a Great White, though it is said some fishermen take the small sharks. Um, and I don't know that we need them protected against us when in the eight attacks it was the human being that was the victim. Now the CA Fish and Game Commission will consider on February 6th whether to declare the Great White Sharks a candidate for protection and recommend to the federal government that they get protection and at the same time under the California Endangered Species Act as well.

"Now here's what's actually happening. The sharks used to be fished when they did show up and not many of them did but when they did show up they were fished. Shark boats went out at night and took care of the sharks. Sharks, of course, avoided this area because they knew they were being hunted here. They're not dumb. Now that they're not being hunted here because there's a new rule in California it's like the gun-free zone. We now have a shark-free zone. As a consequence we've had eight shark attacks in one year, where before that the last one was in 1959. So now we have a great-white free zone."
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video: Roger Hedgecock blames shark attacks on liberals (Original Post) uhnope Jan 2013 OP
He doesnt think sharks are dumb. From his perspective sharks are brilliant. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #1
Who makes this stuff up? Are there writers who upaloopa Jan 2013 #2
yeah but..... Plucketeer Jan 2013 #14
Consider his perspective Plucketeer Jan 2013 #13
Blame it on "Jaws 3D". Hedgecock has it on continuous loop. longship Jan 2013 #3
Um, wouldn't a shark-free zone be, well, free of sharks? djean111 Jan 2013 #4
I'd probably say that somebody needs to sit Republicans down and explain to them the concept of an Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #5
anything referencing roger hedgecock should be prefaced with "convicted felon" frylock Jan 2013 #6
"THE SHARKS KNEW? " AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #7
yes that gave me pause too uhnope Jan 2013 #9
Actually Great Whites are fairly intelligent Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #10
Actually where I live AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #11
That's still in the North Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #16
HowStuffWorks.. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #17
California Sea Lions are found up and down the entire coast Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #18
GOT LINK? AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #19
My source? Me. Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #21
Yes.. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #23
They say the Orca is the Great Whites only true enemy Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #24
Wow, he's just making it up as he goes. Iggo Jan 2013 #8
To whom does he attribute Jet attacks? ScottLand Jan 2013 #12
So sharks have figured out nobody's hunting them, and that's why they're attacking people? WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2013 #15
this guy is the stupidest i have heard in a long time. just makes up shit as he goes seabeyond Jan 2013 #20
yes, he's so smug, obnoxious and unaccountable uhnope Jan 2013 #22
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. He doesnt think sharks are dumb. From his perspective sharks are brilliant.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

Much smarter than Republicans.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Who makes this stuff up? Are there writers who
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jan 2013

dream up this shit and get paid for it?
They have to have contempt for their listeners to say a crock of shit like that on the radio.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. yeah but.....
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jan 2013

we have to assume that his audience tunes to his show for more substance than what I expect when I watch the Three Stooges!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
13. Consider his perspective
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jan 2013

Certainly the sharks ARE smarter than this rube! Everybody's king of their own fishbowl.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Blame it on "Jaws 3D". Hedgecock has it on continuous loop.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jan 2013

24/7. That's all he watches on the televisionary set. Apparently, it worked.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
5. I'd probably say that somebody needs to sit Republicans down and explain to them the concept of an
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jan 2013

ecosystem, as in this case, were Great Whites to disappear it would have catastrophic consequences on said ecosystem. I'd probably say that, but I already know that it would be a waste of time. Republicans would probably blame the existence of ecosystems on Clinton.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
7. "THE SHARKS KNEW? "
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

I hope he is talking about the SAN JOSE Shark Hockey team, cause last I checked, Great Whites don't have higher brain functions.

Wait...

I take it back... SHARKS do have a higher Brain function than Republican Right wingers... end of story.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
9. yes that gave me pause too
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:54 PM
Jan 2013

he's a real idiot in many ways. I think it comes from never really being challenged on anything, mixed with the general decline in right wing thought processes since Bush

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
10. Actually Great Whites are fairly intelligent
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jan 2013

They communicate with each other using their fins, different gestures mean different things. The have a heirarchical society, with the smaller ones yielding to the larger ones. There's only a few other animals that display such advanced social organization on Earth: dolphins, whales, elephants, dogs, and primates. All of those animals are pretty smart.

In California, where I live, it's been known for some time now that Great Whites travel down our coastline to Baja, then out to Hawaii, and then back again. Nobody even knows how they navigate the distance, but they do. The thing is, there are almost never any shark attacks or even sightings along the middle and southern parts of the state. There are many attacks and sightings in the Northern waters where I'm located.

Some scientists think this is because the central and southern waters are heavily populated by humans, whereas the Northern waters are not. What this does is actually lend evidence that Great Whites actually AVOID areas with a large human presence instead of seek us out for prey.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
11. Actually where I live
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:35 AM
Jan 2013

off the coast of San Francisco is called the RED TRIANGLE..and the reason is the large population of Seals and Sea Lions on Seal Rock .. not too far from Ocean Beach. Also the Farallon islands have a large population of seals, and sea lions also. These animals are a food source for the Great White Sharks. This is why there are so many of them in Northern California. If you ever go out to Pier 39, you will see hundreds of Seal Lions and Seals there, on the docks. They are far enough in the bay, that they are not food for Great White Sharks.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
16. That's still in the North
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jan 2013

where people generally don't swim because the water's too cold. Go a little further down, towards Santa Cruz and beyond and they almost never have problems with Whites. Nobody really knows why because going through those waters is part of their migration route. But some people think is because more people swim off those beaches regularly, and the sharks avoid areas with large human populations.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
17. HowStuffWorks..
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jan 2013

Sharks strike terror into the heart­s of people around the world like no other creatures. Their fearsome appearance, large size, and hostile, alien environment combine­ to make them seem like something straight out of a nightmare. The sudden violence of a shark attack is truly a terrifying experience for the victim -- but are sharks really man-eating monsters with a taste for human flesh?

In this article, we'll find out why sharks attack, what an attack is like, and what kinds of sharks attack people most often. We'll also look at some ways to avoid shark attacks.

Why Sharks Attack

Ninety percent or more of shark incidents are mistakes. They assume that we're something that we are not.- Gary Adkison, diver ("Sharkbite! Surviving the Great White&quot

Although shark attacks can seem vicious and brutal, it's important to remember that sharks aren't evil creatures constantly on the lookout for humans to attack. They are animals obeying their instincts, like all other animals. As predators at the top of the ocean food chain, sharks are designed to hunt and eat large amounts of meat. A shark's diet consists of other sea creatures -- mainly fish, sea turtles, whales and sea lions and seals. Humans are not on the menu. In fact, humans don't provide enough high-fat meat for sharks, which need a lot of energy to power their large, muscular bodies.

If sharks aren't interested in eating humans, why do they attack us? The first clue comes in the pattern that most shark attacks take. In the majority of recorded attacks, the shark bites the victim, hangs on for a few seconds (possibly dragging the victim through the water or under the surface), and then lets go. It is very rare for a shark to make repeated attacks and actually feed on a human victim. The shark is simply mistaking a human for something it usually eats. Once the shark gets a taste, it realizes that this isn't its usual food, and it lets go.

more...
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/shark-attack.htm

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
18. California Sea Lions are found up and down the entire coast
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jan 2013

all the way down to Mexico. Theoretically, Great White feeding patters should be the same up and down the entire coast. They're not.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
19. GOT LINK?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jan 2013

where you getting your data?

The most dangerous places for shark attacks
Of the 460 shark species in the world, only about 30 have ever attacked humans, and of these, only a handful have done it a number of times and are big enough to be considered dangerous to people (to learn more about these sharks, read the linked article "the most dangerous sharks&quot .
Shark attacks are not common (fewer than 100 a year, on average) and few of them only result in the victim's death (generally fewer than 20 a year).

In theory, any place where sharks occur can be dangerous, and sharks can be found in virtually any sea or ocean. In practice, the 2199 shark attacks and 471 fatalities recorded in the world between 1580 and 2007 have not occurred randomly. So why are some places more dangerous than others, regarding sharks?

Shark attacks occur most where sharks, and especially dangerous species, are abundant (which explains why they are so uncommon in Europe), and when the human density in the waters is important (which could explain why Asia and - South Africa excepted - Africa, are so absent from these stats as well: those continents don't - yet- have a culture of ocean swimming, diving and surfing). Contrary to some beliefs too, the most dangerous locations for sharks are not the warm tropical waters where sharks, amongst other species, are abundant, but colder waters home, especially, to the great white shark (responsible for 47% of attacks worldwide).

This article is not an attempt to rank places and continents, but just an account of the most dangerous places on Earth for shark attacks and an attempt to explain why these places are dangerous. If you plan to enter the waters in any of these locations, you might want to read the linked articles "How to avoid a shark attack" and "How to survive a shark attack" beforehand.

more..https://sites.google.com/site/venomousdangerous/sharks/the-most-dangerous-places-for-shark-attacks

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
21. My source? Me.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jan 2013

A lifetime of scuba diving, living in Sonoma and Humboldt County (two very popular Great White destinations in Northern CA) and reading about sharks and watching shark week. I did see a documentary one time in which they discussed the fact that for some reason, Whites seem to leave the central and southern waters alone, and they speculated that it's because those areas are heavily populated with humans. Do I have a link for it? No.


I've been living here a long time and I can tell you whenever there's a White attack, it's ALWAYS in the Northern part of the state. Whereas the central and southern parts of the state are left alone even though there's plenty of seals and surfers that look like seals in those parts.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
23. Yes..
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jan 2013

They do seem to happen more in Northern waters. Though when I visited Vancouver BC.. Most of the great whites seem to avoid the area because of the large Killer Whale population. I have even seen, from the BC Ferries, an Orca attacking a shark.. it was quite a battle.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
24. They say the Orca is the Great Whites only true enemy
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jan 2013

The Great White may be the ocean's apex predator when it comes to fish, but the Orca is the Apex predator for ALL animals in the ocean.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
15. So sharks have figured out nobody's hunting them, and that's why they're attacking people?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jan 2013

I think a more likely explanation is the oceans are getting warmer and the sharks are moving to the area where the water temperature suits them.

Of course, in the Republican Alternate Universe global warming is a liberal conspiracy and doesn't actually exist, so I guess that shoots my theory all to hell...

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. this guy is the stupidest i have heard in a long time. just makes up shit as he goes
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jan 2013

not caring how stupid he sounds. totally amazing.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
22. yes, he's so smug, obnoxious and unaccountable
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jan 2013

that he doesn't realize he sounds so idiotic. Because I don't think he's stupid. I think this is the danger of being a shill in the right wing echo chamber

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