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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:18 AM

1. Has the UN issued a declaration to this effect?

Why do they serve burgers in their cafeterias, then?

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:22 AM

2. I don't believe that I could ever go to a strict vegan diet.

because I could never forego eggs, cheese (or other milk products) or fish.

But yes, my diet has become much more vegetarian-based. I rarely eat red meat - primarily poultry when I do eat meat - and there are several days at a time when I eat no meat at all. I believe that I am actually more healthy than when I was younger.

I know that I feel good, have lots of energy and so far seem to be in fine physical shape - and I am nearly 70.

I am delighted to see that my youngest grandchildren eat lots of different vegetables and fruits, both raw and steam-cooked, and love them. They also eat fresh natural foods rather than processed food products.

If only all children were able to have diets even half as healthy as theirs.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:42 PM

14. Neither can I. That's why I am a vegetarian.

No meat, but I do eat dairy.

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:26 AM

3. I have problems with these numbers n/t

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:51 AM

4. So you got your facts from the supreme master?

Well, she's wrong.

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Response to Confusious (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:00 AM

6. This was a United Nations report

Where is your link?

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Response to pathansen (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:05 AM

7. No, I watched the part about the UN report

it was the supreme master making the claims of 80% of global warming would be gone by stopping the eating of meat.

That is bullshit.

Globally, the sector contributes 18 percent (7.1 billion tonnes CO2 equivalent) of global greenhouse gas emissions.


http://www.fao.org/agriculture/lead/themes0/climate/en/

Find a better source then the "supreme master"

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Response to Confusious (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:25 AM

17. Well, you didn't watch all of it. She is on there

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:00 AM

5. The following link gives 49 specific reasons

http://www.britishmeat.com/49.htm
**Pollution from untreated wastes - 130 times more than humans
**Animals at top of food chain - takes about 16 lbs of grains from plants to produce 1 lb of meat. So how are we going to feed 7 billion people?
**Requires 15 times more water than plants
**More greenhouse gases than than all transportation combined
**Major contributor to deforestation
**Tremendous of antibiotics given to cattle and preservatives added to meat end up in our bodies and the environment

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Response to pathansen (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:08 AM

8. Your "facts" are misleading

Not every piece of dirt can be used for growing crops.

Those pieces that can't be used for growing crops can be used for grazing animals.

Might try looking up "arable land"

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:24 AM

9. Waste.

Don't tell me what to eat as long as the current food supplies are being squandered due to government mismanagement. The "Powers" refuse to allocate resources to ensure food is delivered where it is needed. I don't trust those "Powers" to deal with food supply until they prove they can. We could even reduce production of all food groups if almost half wasn't wasted.

How the world manages to waste half its food

Between 30 and 50 percent of all the food thatís produced on the planet is lost and wasted without ever reaching human stomachs. Thatís the stunning takeaway from a new report (pdf) from the Institution of Mechanical Engineers.

Weíve covered food waste before on this blog, but those figures seemed staggering to the point of absurdity. So I thought Iíd comb through the report and pull out some of the concrete details that help illustrate just how the world can actually waste this much food.

...

After a few pages of this, it doesnít seem so absurd to think that the world really does squander up to half its food. And all that rubbishing has major consequences. Not only is it a waste of energy and water and land, but itís a tragedy in its own right, given that some 870 million people suffer from chronic malnourishment.

On the plus side, this is a problem that can be tackled. For poorer countries, simply building better food-storage buildings could cut down massively on waste in places like Pakistan or Ghana (which lost 50 percent of its stored maize in 2008). Better harvesting technology and techniques could also help, although the report suggests that some nations like India will need more sweeping societal and political changes to cut down on waste.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/12/how-the-world-manages-to-waste-half-its-food


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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:16 AM

10. What the World Needs Now, is Less Meat! No not just for some, but for everyone.........

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Response to joanbarnes (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:21 AM

11. we evolved by eating meat, and our brains are made of fat

so, ya'll go ahead. I'm going to continue to feed my brain meat, not too much, with many veggies.

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:20 PM

12. How about they lower the prices of veggies so we can save the world?

I'd go more for a veggie diet if they lowered the danm prices!

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Response to pathansen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:41 PM

13. If we became vegetarians, we wouldn't need cows or pigs or chickens or turkeys.

And then they would become extinct like all the other animals that we decided we didn't need.

Eating less meat than Americans normally eat may be a good idea, but becoming vegetarians?

No. I've tried it, and I felt weak and had no energy. I was like a zomby. I hated it.

I don't eat much meat, but some. I think that is the best diet.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:49 PM

15. I have not eaten any meat for 15 years,

and have never felt better. I will be 74 years old in 2 days and hope to live for another 20 years.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:38 PM

16. Yes, some people with Blood Type O, require more meat than others

You may want to try supplements such as hemp seed and freekah, for example.

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