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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:27 PM

 

The Battle of Athens! True story of veterans standing up to election/ballot fraud - A must see!



The is short, and you need to know this has been going on, in many ways through the years. It's time to stand up!

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:03 PM

1. Well, there's all the proof you need. Every American should be armed with a cruise missile!!

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Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:29 PM

2. Okay, Scuba, you outted yourself. Sign your name on the list:

"The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.

Specific materials in this video are copyrighted and fall into 17 U.S.C. 106 and 17 U.S.C. 106A, The Fair Use of a Copyrighted Work.

Those who dislike this video are freedom hating socialist and fascist zombies."

That says it all right there. Over one and a half million viewers who agree that Obama and US government are breaking the law of the land. Anyone want to join the list of freedom hating socialist and fascist zombies?

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Response to freshwest (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:59 PM

3. That's me, freedom hating socialist zombie.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:52 PM

4. Scuba, check the channel page that posted this video. It's a real eye opener, you oughta look.

http://www.youtube.com/user/JeremyHopper007?feature=watch

This is the third 'no-holds-barred' video I've seen posted in V&MM this past week. Tell me what you think of this movement. Lots of views, man, this is getting very popular.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:05 PM

5. Smells like gun troll.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:07 PM

6. And true Tea Party on that channel. Pretty toxic stuff, but popular.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:14 PM

7. Popular? Nah.

JeremyHopper007's channel has 1,367 subscribers, half of whom are using Daddy's computer.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:28 PM

9. Hahaha! Did you see the Yeager stuff coming out? My ex used to call guys like that,

He's ruff. He's tuff. He's a cream puff!

I have no idea where he got that meme.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:25 PM

8. Takin' on a two-bit sheriff is one thing

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:16 PM

10. It's a moving story in an "Old West" kind of way...

...but we don't live in the "Old West" any more. The Transglobal Corporate powers that rule over us are much, much, MUCH more sophisticated in their techniques of control than Athens' corrupt mayor and sheriff. For instance, all vote counting is now done with electronics, using 'TRADE SECRET' code, owned and controlled largely by one, private, far rightwing-connected corporation (ES&S, which bought out Diebold). How ya gonna use guns to overturn that kind of power? It's not possible. The government has bigger guns, and more of them, and drones and other lethal aircraft, and impenetrable tanks, and machines with hoses that spray suffocating substances at fire hose pressures, and whatever else they need for total physical control of the population, including impenetrable prisons and out-of-control spying.

We have a much different sort of problem than a local dirty political machine. We have a huge, transglobal and impenetrably dirty political-financial machine which has hijacked the U.S. military for a corporate oil war, which installed Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld in power, which clearly has President Obama on a short leash, and which has gone a long, long way toward destroying our democracy altogether, not to mention robbing us blind.

If you think that even the arsenal of assault weapons in American homes can overturn these powers--can "run them out of town"--you are very foolish, indeed. We need to match the quite staggering power of transglobal corporations and their unprecedented war machine with People Power of a different kind than personal weapons, that don't have a chance against them and that shouldn't be used that way, in any case. Making war on the government? I mean, really. If you want bloodshed, go to a war theatre. There are plenty of them. Don't bring any more of it here!

No, don't go 'there." Sorry I said that. I don't wish more bloodshed on ANYONE.

We have to be a lot smarter than that, to outsmart the forces that are destroying our democracy and impoverishing us and others--and we need to be a lot more aware of, and compassionate toward, the victims of bloody conflict--the ones who always take the brunt of it--children, girls, women, parents, the elderly, the helpless. You want our people engaged in bloody conflict with the government? You want people shooting our own people--our police, our soldiers? You want our police and our soldiers put in the position of being ordered to shoot us? You want buildings and buses and airplanes and trains and bridges being blown up? You want social mayhem? You want loss of medical services and food supplies? You want blood all over the streets? You know much about civil wars? You know much about any wars?

Try to take your musket down to the local voter Registrar to get a look at that 'TRADE SECRET' code--and see how far you get.

We have a very difficult, long developing, complicated problem to solve, that requires brains not brawn, and moral courage, not battle courage. We need a Martin Luther King to lead it, or, best of all, many Martin Luther Kings. And we need it to be peaceful. And anyone who doesn't understand this--who eggs people on to think that buying guns is going to protect them from corrupt and oppressive government--is inviting the ruination of our people and our country.

This video is a neat little story--satisfying like some cowboy movies where the good and the true win out. But it does not apply to our situation, except that the integrity of the vote count is involved. But how do you get the ballot boxes out of the hands of the bad guys if there are no ballot boxes? If they are fiddling the results remotely, ten states away, or in another country? (You know where ES&S manufactures their touchscreen voting machines? In the Philippines! In sweatshop conditions!) You can go shoot up your local voting machines, and get yourself a long prison term, and they will just bring in more such machines--and maybe take your house to pay for the damage, and put your family out on the street.

Collective action we will surely need--but it has to be smart and it has to be peaceful. Nothing else has any chance of success--if the goal is improving our democracy and the fairness and decency of our country. If the goal is some teenage boy's dream of gunplay and social mayhem and dystopia, where the he-man with the biggest gun wins, go to the movies, please, and stop peddling nonsense.

One other thing: How many of those good guys and bad guys would have lived, in that conflict in Athens, if even one of them had been armed with an assault weapon that shoots six bullets per second? SIX BULLETS PER SECOND! It's bad enough to think of those men, good and bad, lying in bloody heaps, dead--having had no chance whatsoever to get away or fight back. Now think about a kindergarten shot up with such a weapon--the little tykes shivering in their shoes, maybe trying to run away--and getting blown to bits, in mere seconds, with multiple, deadly wounds, and no chance at all. You and others have carried this 2nd Amendment crapola way, way too far. We are not that country any more. We are a country where five year olds get massacred and we can't do anything about it because people like you get maudlin over your guns and want more and more guns, and faster and more deadly means of mowing down your "enemies." But who gets mowed down, hm?

Two days before the Newtown massacre, I heard an ad on the radio in my car. Imagine a radio ad by an Animal Shelter that uses soft music and softer words to urge you to adopt a cute little puppy for Christmas, and tells you that a homeless puppy is waiting there to love you. Now substitute "gun" for "cute little puppy." That's the ad I heard, from a gunshop in Fresno, CA. They had guns that wanted to love you, that were waiting for you to "adopt" them.

It's sick. That's what it is. Getting so maudlin over guns that you can't see reality any more.

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Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:24 PM

11. Well said. Another poster refered to gun buyback programs as denying guns to wanted homes..

As you say. Like adopting pets or babies. The poster actually made that analogy... Insane.

I read this statement a while back:

People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used. The reason why the world is in chaos, is because things are being loved, and people are being used.


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Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:02 AM

12. +1 Please consider making this an OP.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:13 AM

13. yippee ky yay

This isn't really a call for gun ownership, they broke into the local armory for the weapons.

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Response to SugarShack (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:23 AM

14. Today they would have declared the citizens of the county enemy combatants and

would have dropped bombs on them with drones. Fight that with a few rifles or even automatics.

There wouldn't have been a wait for the National Guard. The bombs would have been dropping as soon as the Senator called the Governor. The electronic vote count would have already declared the corrupt Sheriff and Senator winners and all the Teabaggers would have been pointing fingers at the citizens and returning vets crying sore loser, sore loser while Fox cheered.

The corrupt political/corporate machine is much, much bigger today and an armed populace would just be an excuse to use new powerful anti-terrorist weapons.

It's a nice fantasy to think a handful of people with guns can get their voting rights back. Right now in TN the vote is rigged. Only RepubliCONS and scoundrels can win an election. You see a lot of Teabaggers swaggering around with their peashooters but you don't see any Tennesseans rising up to take their rights back.

By the way those well regulated militias the Constitution is referring to were local Southern militias that kept the slaves from rising up.

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