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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:24 AM

Joe Scarborough: Newtown Shooting Made 'Ideologies Of My Past' On Guns Irrelevant



Ridiculous obsession with "Hollywood" and gaming, but probably as good as we'll ever hear from Scar.

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Reply Joe Scarborough: Newtown Shooting Made 'Ideologies Of My Past' On Guns Irrelevant (Original post)
BeyondGeography Dec 2012 OP
TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #1
Jack Rabbit Dec 2012 #2
Hyper_Eye Dec 2012 #3
Sky Masterson Dec 2012 #6
6502 Dec 2012 #4
Lordquinton Dec 2012 #5
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Sky Masterson Dec 2012 #7
6502 Dec 2012 #12
stlsaxman Dec 2012 #8
Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #9
CtDemoFarmer Dec 2012 #10
Chakab Dec 2012 #11

Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:55 AM

1. I'm not listeneing to 10 minutes of bullshit from this guy, but...

I would like to know what took him so long after all the slaughters over the years. Was it the kids killed? adults and teens don't count?

And howcum he admits to an "ideology"?

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:22 AM

2. Joe Scar deserves some rare kudos from us for that

There are few things I can personally admire in someone more than to admit that he has been wrong.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:51 AM

3. I agree. These transformations are how we win the argument. So I will gladly be the 5th rec. n/t

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Response to Hyper_Eye (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:42 AM

6. I think he's dead on!

We have two cultures in this country that have a sort of weak symbiotic relationship.
The gun culture and the gaming culture.
How many games out there include shooting multiple humans for entertainment purposes.
I just heard on Morning Joe this morning that the Present gun culture seemed to embrace Assault weapons around the 1980's.
And Hollywood.
What did movies such as Red Dawn do to the paranoid freedumb lovin simple folk around that time?
But we also had a government scaring the shit out of us about communism about that time as well.
Oh Yeah, We also had Pres. Ronald Reagan.

I'm not a wise enough man to know exactly how and why it all went to hell
but it was nice to hear this from Joe.



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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:55 AM

4. It's the guns STUPID... just the guns...

Check this post I found just today about how the Australians fixed their Gun Massacre problem:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022008224

The Australians watch the same movies we do and play the same video games, too.

And over here in Japan... guns are not illegal. Just mad crazy regulated. My Japanese friends say things like "you have to go to the police station and let them count your bullets" regulated.

And I can tell you that we get tons of US movies and TV drams and all of that... dubbed or subtitled, of course.

And the Japanese have their own movie and video game industry with its own cranked up level of violence. (Heck, you buy their games in the US!)
((Edit - Lordquinton, correctly, pointed out below that I forgot to mention the Japanese media industry... thanks for the catch. ))


And we don't have schools being shot up.

In fact: whenever I hear them talk about "And there is another tragic school massacre...", all I have to do is wait for the part of the sentence that goes "... in America."

It's not Hollywood, or Bollywood, or monster movies, or the PS3, or Super Mario (hey... some think so)... (hey... I can't make this list myself... you finish it with what you know).

You see the point.

The man's just balancing himself across two issues...
... which gives an opening for people to distract others and be distract by others.

Please...

It's the guns STUPID... just the guns...

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Response to 6502 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:16 AM

5. Movies and Games in Japan

If people are scared of the types of movies and games we have here in america, I suggest they never look into the stuff that comes out of Japan. And they don't seem to have a problem with violence like we do.

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:51 AM

7. .

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

"To get a gun in Japan, first, you have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years."

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:26 PM

12. Good catch... I'm gonna update my comment to include that...

... I'll make sure to reference you on the fix.

I totally forgot to include Japan's own local media industry in the list.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:25 AM

8. "He was SO EVIL... why didn't he use a blunt instrument like I did?!?!"

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:17 AM

9. He knows his party must move left to survive, and this is a no brainier to do it with.

If the Repugs stay on the wrong side of this issue now, they are doomed!

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:05 PM

10. So 32 at Virginia Tech was not bad enough because they were older or what?

It was only when 20 little children near his home and of similar ages as his children that he feels the pain. He is a non-caring person and always will be, but now he wants to play a caring person of TV. Don't watch him, will never watch him, and his whole show is just more of a cheer leading cheer for the plutocracy that we now live in.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:23 PM

11. Translation:

"I'm trying to sound like less of a lunatic so that Bloomberg will pick me as his running mate in 2016."

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