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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:16 PM

Pic Of The Moment: War On Christmas Update



2012: New Wingnut Complaint: The Obamas are being too Christian at Christmastime

2011: File under 'can't make this up'...Sarah Palin Slams Obama's Christmas Card

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Reply Pic Of The Moment: War On Christmas Update (Original post)
EarlG Dec 2012 OP
CindyinIndy Dec 2012 #1
GatorLarry Dec 2012 #26
KansDem Dec 2012 #2
rivegauche Dec 2012 #12
Dont call me Shirley Dec 2012 #3
Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #4
TheOther95Percent Dec 2012 #5
Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #6
SharonAnn Dec 2012 #7
Cha Dec 2012 #9
Rhiannon12866 Dec 2012 #19
lindysalsagal Dec 2012 #20
kmlisle Dec 2012 #24
Cha Dec 2012 #8
Little Star Dec 2012 #10
Cleita Dec 2012 #11
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #13
MADem Dec 2012 #14
republicanway Dec 2012 #15
awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #17
hrmjustin Dec 2012 #21
SoapBox Dec 2012 #16
Initech Dec 2012 #18
WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #22
happyslug Dec 2012 #23
suffragette Dec 2012 #25
Myrina Dec 2012 #27
liberal N proud Dec 2012 #28

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:52 PM

1. There they go again...

Rethugs talking out of both sides of their faces.

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Response to CindyinIndy (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 09:58 AM

26. Again.

I don't see why anyone takes anything they say seriously -- especially the media.

"If we do it, then it's fine; but if they do it, then it's wrong . . . no matter what."

Well, the media just spreads it to continue controversy which is all they have to sell any more.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:13 PM

2. Some people aren't happy unless they're miserable...

Republicans are those people.

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Response to KansDem (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:49 PM

12. So true

as a friend used to say, they could find shit in ice cream.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:28 PM

3. Republicans FURIOUS because they can't figure out why they don't have a clue

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:33 PM

4. When did the Christmas tree become a deity symbol?

And, are they now saying one arboreal deity is okay, but too many false gods is too much?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:42 PM

5. A diety symbol? I dunno. Maybe when they're made of chocolate?

I think you mean deity.

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Response to TheOther95Percent (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:47 PM

6. Chocolate? Did someone say chocolate?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:10 PM

7. I think it had to do with pagan Germanic gods and winter solstice, or something like that.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:33 PM

9. When assholes starting Waging War On

Christmas.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:32 PM

19. Years ago, I had friends who used to sing "Arbor Day" carols at Christmas

Now I finally get what they meant. Evidently, it's all about the trees...

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:06 PM

20. Right after bunnies and eggs started representing earthly reincarnation.

"Honestly. That body was there, just yesterday. I don't know what happened to it."

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:12 PM

24. Actually they are a pagan practice co-opted by christians

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:32 PM

8. You know what? It's the Republicons who are waging WAR ON

CHRISTMAS! F*** them and the rabid elephant they rode in on.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:37 PM

10. When I grow up I want a wit like you have. You are really good! k&r

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:41 PM

11. *sigh*

The crazeee just gets beyond crazeee. Here's a card I'd like to see. All those wingnuts tied up in straight jackets, loaded up in the whaaaambulance, heading for Shady Acres or whatever the nearest asylum for the criminally insane is. Inside it would read:

MERRY CHRISTMAS AMERICA!




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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:58 PM

13. The Republican Party sounds exactly like my mother in law

who I divorced for exactly that reason. ( dumped her son, too)
Bitch, whine, moan and complain about every damn thing, no matter how petty.
She would find fault coming and going, just for the sake of finding fault.
Had as many brains as a Tea Bagger, too.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:07 PM

14. Deck the Halls With Boughs of Poutrage, Farty Lardy Lar, Har Har dee Dar! nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:10 PM

15. A good thing

President Obama could have a cure for cancer and Republicans would say "cancer is a good thing"

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Response to republicanway (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:56 PM

17. LBJ once said...

(paraphrasing) "if I walked across the Potomac, the headline would read 'president can't swim'"

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Response to republicanway (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:26 PM

21. Welcome to DU!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:30 PM

16. Batshit crazy assholes.

Idiots.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:08 PM

18. They just should say it - they do not give a shit what Obama does.

So now that the election is over Obama should just trying and do what he feels like. The Fox News haters don't care anyways...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:32 PM

22. 2013: Obama puts Mitch McConnell in charge of White House Xmas decorations; Republicans outraged

n/t

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:04 PM

23. THIS IS A CRIME!!! WHERE IS BO IN THE 2012 CARD????

Last edited Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:21 AM - Edit history (5)

Bo was the center piece in the 2011 Card, but no where to be seen in the 2012 Card. DEMAND A NEW CARD BE ISSUED. THE NATION NEEDS BO, SUPPORT BO. PROTEST TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

#t=0s

Portuguese water dogs, are of recent introduction into the US, but its very close cousin, the German puddle dog (also known as a "Poodle") served this country well during WWII":

Poodles served in the Coast Guard (which during WWII was under the Navy):


And the Army:




In the service, no fancy cuts, a cut just like Bo's

http://www.poodlehistory.org/PoodlesinWWII.HTM

A website on WWII Dogs in the US Military, mentioned the Mrs. Milton S. (Arlene) Erlanger and Roland Kilbon, a writer for the New York Sun, but ignores the breed Mrs Erlanger was best known for, the Poodle. Prejudice is huge against the poodle but the Standard Poodle (full size Poodle) was in many ways ideal. protective and tendency NOT to bark and second only to the Border Collie in train-ability. On the down side Standard Poodles are just not Attack Dogs, thus lost out to German Shepherds and the Belgian Sheep Dog (Which I have read has replaced the German Shepherd in the US Army).

Of the seven breeds Standardized in 1944, three were clearly for arctic dog sleds, the Eskimo dog, Alaskan Malamut and the Siberian Husky. Three were adopted as "Attack Dogs" i.e Silent Patrol Dogs, the Doberman Pinscher, the German Shepherd and the Belgian Sheep Dog. The Collie (Called the Farm Collie but clearly means what we call today the border collie) made the list due to the ease of training them so could be trained as a sentry dog

http://community-2.webtv.net/Hahn-50thAP-K9/K9History3/
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/dogs_and_national_defense.htm#Origin of the War Dog Program

Side note on the above: In the above you will read of the 1944 reduction to seven breeds, one being a "Farm Collie". I have ONLY see the term "Farm Collie" used in the above WWII records, but it appear it was used due to the Movie Lassie. In the book, Lassie, Lassie was called a Collie, for Lassie in the book Lassie come Home was what we now call a Border Collie. The Movie come out just before WWII, and in the movie instead of a what had been called a Collie being used for Lassie the movie producers picked the better on film Rough Collie. Thus the Rough Collie became what people thought of when they heard the term "Collie" and thus a new name had to be found for what had use to be called a "Collie". In the 1950s, to avoid confusion the term Border Collie was adopted for what had been called the Collie and the term "Farm Collie" which I have only seen in this WWII documents, died out. It is clear that the Term "Farm Collie" was picked in an attempt to make clear that want the Army wanted was a traditional Collie, i.e. a Border Collie NOT a Rough Collie.

One last comment, what was called a "Collie" or "Farm Collie" while many would now be called "Border Collies", Australian Shepherds would also have meant that term, such dogs have the guard instinct of the German Shepherds and Belgian Sheep dog, but tends to be smaller, around 40-50 pounds as oppose to the larger Belgian Sheep Dog and German Shepherds.

Thus "Farm Collies" were a broad term to include traditional Farm dogs, for while the Border Collie (as the Collie) was already a defined breed by WWII, the Australian Shepherd was just becoming a breed (previously it appears to be a "Type" i.e. no formal papers but people breed dogs to produce dogs like the dogs parents, all Breeds first started as "Types" but as a formal registry were formed they became "breed").

Back to Poodles. Most Poodles apparently went to the Coast Guard, who used them effectively. The Army also used them, but the fact that Poodles had to have a hair cut as often as a GI, meant such dogs needed more care then other breeds and that seems to have been used as an excuse to cut Standard Poodles out of the list of dogs for Military service in 1944. Standard Poodles made the cuts in 1942 and 1943 (i.e. when the army cut down the breeds permitted, Standard Poodles survived till the last cut in 1944).

http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/vetservicewwii/chapter17.htm

WWII Technical Manual on War Dogs, TM 10-396 (1943)

How to select dogs for Army use (1976):
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a031980.pdf

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:20 AM

25. Petty snits at Christmas


They just get worse each year.

Seems the Republicans should just make a song called "Petty snits at Christmas," record it, Youtube it and play it over and over to themselves until the holiday season is over.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:13 PM

27. Sir Ian McKellan tweet:

( he's in NYC promoting the Hobbit) <paraphrasing> Bill O'Reilly claims there's a war on Christmas ... Not in New York, there's not ... There are Christmas trees and carolers everywhere. Reminds me of (hometown name)!

Well done, Sir Ian!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:34 PM

28. The right is really cranked up about this

I had lunch with some guys who have done quite well and are now taking retirement. You would think that the conversation would have been about what they are going to do in retirement and war stories of their years working.

NO! it was about the number of Christmas trees in the White House and the cost of the electricity. I had a hard time keeping a straight face listening to it.

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