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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:26 AM

Mormon Doctrine Has Been Completely Plagiarized



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Reply Mormon Doctrine Has Been Completely Plagiarized (Original post)
celtics23 Nov 2012 OP
fasttense Nov 2012 #1
Quixote1818 Nov 2012 #2
Hamlette Nov 2012 #3
wmchase65 Nov 2012 #4
dotymed Nov 2012 #5
ErikJ Nov 2012 #17
thelordofhell Nov 2012 #6
Solomon Nov 2012 #10
thelordofhell Nov 2012 #11
Plucketeer Nov 2012 #7
graegoyle Nov 2012 #15
The CCC Nov 2012 #8
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #9
HoosierRadical Nov 2012 #12
1monster Nov 2012 #16
roguevalley Nov 2012 #18
NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #19
proReality Nov 2012 #13
blackspade Nov 2012 #14
markpkessinger Nov 2012 #20

Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:44 AM

1. The Joesph Smith family couldn't even bother to make it up themselves

They had to plagiarize travel books.

The Mom kind of admits it on her death bed.

What a scam.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:44 AM

3. I don't trust this guy's account. Instead read: No Man Knows My History

by Fawn Brodie. She was at one time a Mormon and the book is an expose on Joseph Smith. I read it years ago and it is considered historically accurate. She depicts Joseph Smith as a con man who stole the Book of Mormon from a neighboring farmer who had written it as a piece of fiction. Not sure Brodie concludes that's where the book came from but she recounts the allegations made at the the time.

I suspect this author read Brodie's book but if he didn't, and in that short interview it sounds like he had not read her book, he's an idiot.

But if, for any reason, you are interested in the real dish of the LDS church, read Brodie.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:59 AM

4. Indeed, "No Man Knows My History" is an absolute tour de force...

which dissects and dismantles Mormonism (aka: Joseph Smith)...of course, the book was written by Mormon, Fawn Brodie...as expected she was ex-communicated, but because she was Mormon she was provided with access to key historical documents which the LDS hols close to the vest, so-to-speak...

Also, I believe Brodie was the first historian to claim that Thomas Jefferson fathered a child with his slave, Sally Hemmings...of course, she was lambasted by (many) historians...

Again, great book, not just about Smith, but frontier history in general...

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:03 AM

5. Everyone is entitled to their own "beliefs."

But, how in the hell did Scientology become such a movie star magnet? Really, L. Ron Hubbard's, sci-fi books were such an obvious lead-in to the creation of Scientology. It does not take much pondering (and damned little investigation) to determine that Hubbard found a "get rich quick" scheme based on his admittedly fiction writings. I can see a few not-so-bright people being Hubbard's disciples (there's a sucker born every minute) but how did it become "the" religion of the movie stars? Any ideas?

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Response to dotymed (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:59 PM

17. I think they like the personalitly test, psychology aspect

They use e-meters to train you to stay relaxed even when confronted with insults. But I think that hardly rates as "religion".

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:11 AM

6. And The Holy Bible rips off The Epic Of Gilgamesh

It's all a scam

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Response to thelordofhell (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:32 PM

10. LOL. So says thelordofhell.

Twas a mighty flood.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:51 PM

11. Yup

When you're in the Democratic Party in Arizona...........the name applies

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:43 AM

7. ALL religion is sleight-of-hand baloney

That said, I was amazed at the pass that the religious Right granted Romeny. Jesus! They're DUMBER than I thought!

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:25 PM

15. The Religious Wrong made choice:

They accepted the heresy of Mormonism as naught but an insignificant mote compared to their overwhelming hatred of the mixed-race and duly elected President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:43 AM

8. Mormon Doctrine Has Been Completely Plagiarized

No Mam; That's not History.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:22 PM

9. That was a fascinating interview, I'm considering picking up the book.

I have never heard of an in-depth analysis of the Book of Mormon like this and if the data points match on the allegedly-plagiarized material then the whole religion is, in an arguably objective sense, a scam.

PB

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:11 PM

12. Aren't all religious texts plagiarized to some extent?

The Ten Commandments was taken from the Egyptian aka Kemetic text "Book of the Dead".

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Response to HoosierRadical (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:34 PM

16. Perhaps. But then there are some historians who have speculated that Akenaten,

the Pharaoh who was the first in history (as we know it) to believe in only ONE god, might also be Moses.

I believe there is a 60 year difference between them with Akenaten being first on the time line; but people in biblilcan times sure seemed to live loooonnnnngg lives.

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Response to 1monster (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:37 PM

18. given the cross pollination of ideas and the mingling in and out of the area

by Bedouin style people who were sheep and camel herders, they would all learn from each other. I believe that Paul went to Saudi Arabia for four years after his Damascus moment before coming back with his Christ model. I am sure there is a story there.

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Response to HoosierRadical (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:13 PM

19. perhaps, but this guy is saying the Book of Mormon was plagiarized from popularized travel books

 

not just other religious texts... making it more obvious of a scam

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:43 PM

13. They weren't only con men...

...they were also horse thieves, and Joseph got arrested for that at least once.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:51 PM

14. So Mormanism is a total scam.

I'm shocked!!

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:25 AM

20. It's an etch-a-sketch religion n/t

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