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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:49 PM

Cenk interviews Alan Grayson about Grand Bargain

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ALAN GRAYSON: I'm entirely against it. Look, Naomi Klein wrote a whole book about this, called The Shock Doctrine. This is an artificial shock. It's being induced in order to be able to justify policies you could not possibly justify on their merits, and I think that people are getting very frustrated about this. The polls clearly show that over three quarters of the population doesn't want any cuts in benefits in Social Security, or any cuts in benefits for Medicare, in order to be able to reduce the deficit. What they want, a majority, want cuts in the defense budget, and they want an end to the war in Afghanistan to reduce the deficit. And instead what we are seeing is this artificial creation , right after we saw a real crisis. We saw a real crisis in Hurricane Sandy, and that's what a real crisis looks like. An artificial crisis is being instituted to steal from us, to steal from the Middle Class,and to steal from people in need.

CENK: It's so refreshing to hear a Democratic Congressman actually say that. So now, unfortunately, not only do you have the Republicans against you, it appears that you've got the Administration against you. They can't wait to do this Grand Bargain. So how in the world do progressive Democrats fight back to make sure it doesn't happen?

ALAN: Well, first we have to make sure people understand there is a third choice. We can't have the Republican Party saying, "We want to strip away your Medicare and your Social Security," like they do in the Ryan Budget, which they all voted for and which passed the House, and then have the Democratic Party say, "Have half." That doesn't work. There's got to be a third alternative. Somebody has to say, "No, that's just not the way we are going to do this. We're not going to strip money from the people in need. We're not going to throw Grandma from the train. We're just not going to do it."

What you're going to see is that this will become a litmus test. This will become a litmus test in the Democratic Party, in the same way that favoring tax cuts for the rich has become a litmus test for the Republican Party. Anybody who votes for cuts in Social Security and cuts in Medicare can expect a primary in the year 2014.

CENK: That would be terrific. Now, as you go into this Congress, and unfortunately you are going to get there after the lame duck session, where they might cut this Grand Bargain. How much of a fighting squad do you have with you? How many progressives can stand up and actually say that? Is it a large enough block to actually throw a roadblock into what's happening?

ALAN: Yes, but it shouldn't come to that. The Democratic Party should be united. We are the Party that created Social Security. We are the Party that created Medicare. We should stand behind it. We should protect it. It's amazingly popular among the voters. Why should we shoot ourselves in the head by saying we're going to end these programs, we're going to cut back these programs, when we created them and the voters love them?

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Enrique Nov 2012 OP
limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #1
reformist2 Nov 2012 #2
Plucketeer Nov 2012 #3
pam4water Nov 2012 #4
GiaGiovanni Nov 2012 #5
02potato Nov 2012 #6

Response to Enrique (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:04 PM

1. need more Congress members with guts. nt

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:28 PM

2. The rich have $50 trillion in stocks, bonds, real estate. They can afford to pay higher taxes.


With an amount less than the average annual return on their investments (i.e., 2% of that $50 trillion), we could easily close the deficit and fully fund Medicare/Medicaid for the next century.

And why are the rich against this - all the money spent by the people receiving these benefits winds up propping up their stocks and bonds, so it's a win/win, really.

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:46 PM

3. I love me some Grayson!

I'm SO proud that I - a Californian - donated and phone banked to get him re-elected! GOOOOOOOOO ALAN!!!

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:08 PM

4. K&R

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:25 PM

5. He's on the right track

 

Bless him

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:31 AM

6. words?

CNN, CBS, NBC, Fox news, the CBC, and the BBC all repeat over and over:
"austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity austerity fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff fiscal cliff entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements entitlements"
without either explaining it or discussing it from more than one perspective,IT'S 100% BULLSHIT!
Use words like "earned benefits"

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