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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:19 AM

Andrew Sullivan And SE Cupp Clash Over Gay Marriage, Mormonism On Real Time




Bill Maher brought up all the big liberal victories in Tuesday's election on his show tonight, from states legalizing marijuana to gay marriage passing in a number of states. Andrew Sullivan celebrated the latter as the biggest night in U.S. history for gay marriage, but got heated with S.E. Cupp when he argued that the gay marriage victories were equally as significant for the progress of the United States as marijuana legalization. Cupp scolded him and said he shouldn't be equating two entirely different issues.

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Reply Andrew Sullivan And SE Cupp Clash Over Gay Marriage, Mormonism On Real Time (Original post)
Segami Nov 2012 OP
wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #1
Pryderi Nov 2012 #3
Paladin Nov 2012 #5
Pryderi Nov 2012 #18
Segami Nov 2012 #2
Pryderi Nov 2012 #4
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #9
BainsBane Nov 2012 #11
denvine Nov 2012 #16
mcgarry50 Nov 2012 #6
valerief Nov 2012 #13
SCVDem Nov 2012 #7
Ztolkins Nov 2012 #8
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #10
JonathanBrowne Nov 2012 #12
Isoldeblue Nov 2012 #15
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #14
b757pilot Nov 2012 #17

Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:24 AM

1. She reminds me of Peggy Noonan

same asswipe.

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Response to wilt the stilt (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:28 AM

3. same asswipe, less chardonnay. n/t

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Response to Pryderi (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:14 AM

5. Nicely Put.


You never can tell with Maher's show: I expected a good one last night, and it instead devolved into a screaming match between a couple of really obnoxious people. Really disappointing.......

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Response to Paladin (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:10 AM

18. Yep. When Cupp started talking about women "wanting stuff" from the govt, I wish someone had said,

"No shit! Women are the ones more likely to deal with the realities of aging parents and raising children after a divorce"

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:32 AM

2. James Carville: " Sometimes in the south, people will say...


....You know, in order to get that boy's attention, you got to hit him upside the head with a two by four. Well the sound you heard on election night was PINE ON SKULL!!....

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Response to Segami (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:29 AM

4. That is the genius of James Carville! :) n/t

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Response to Segami (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:00 PM

9. +1000 nt

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Response to Segami (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:11 PM

11. Definitely the highlight of the clip

The rest isn't very interesting, but that I loved.

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Response to Segami (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:00 PM

16. Carville nailed it.

I actually hope the Republican Party continues to be out of touch. At least until we get the House back.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:16 AM

6. s e cupp

 

how did cupp become relevant, sometimes maher gets the lamest people to talk politics. all it does is dumb down his show.

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Response to mcgarry50 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:40 PM

13. All Republicans are lame. nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:24 AM

7. This was her second visit

and I hope her last.

Bill has a habit of getting obnoxious shrill ultra partisan right wing hacks and it hurts the show.

Why is she arguing gay with an older gay guy. I wonder who is better informed on the subject as a whole.

I can't watch the Cycle because of her also.

Learn to shut up Sarah Elizabeth!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:00 PM

8. I don't understand why she isn't right about gay rights/pot

I know about the inequality that stems from the war on drugs, but is that Sullivans argument to conflate the two? If so, I don't think he made his point very well

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:02 PM

10. Thanks for posting....

Love that show, don't get HBO!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:14 PM

12. She ISNT right about gay marriage/pot

If you decide to have a marriage ceremony as a gay person you aren't going to have a swat team bust in, shoot your dog, and haul you away to serve 20 years in prison.

This still happens to people with pot.

Also, hundreds of thousands die because of the violent criminality empowered by drug prohibition.

People who are in serious chronic pain or dying are also denied medicine that is more effective than any pharamaceutical.

I'm all for gay rights, but that battle is nearly won. The drug prohibition battle is really just beginning to gain ground.

Why people are so hyped up about the right to get government approval for love, I don't really know.

I mean, sure, gay people should have the right.

But the lack of it is more of an inconvenience and a tax issue then something that causes a dramatic limit on personal freedom.

People aren't dying left and right and getting raped in prison because they can't get the government to sign off on their marriage.

It's disgusting how little people consider the effects of drug prohibition.

Making plants illegal and criminal is one of the most absurd and destructive policies in human history.

Cartels are literally creating empires that are better funded then their own governments, and are as dangerous and well trained as a renegade military.

This would end if we repealed drug prohibition.

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Response to JonathanBrowne (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:56 PM

15. Wonderfully said!

Thank you. You put it in a way that anyone can understand.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:39 PM

14. Neither can men function without government

S.E. Cupp forgets the whole purpose the United States was formed was to have a government to protect white male land owners. They were helpless under the bullying of the English Crown until they set up the kind of government that protected them. So why is the demand of American women for a government that protects them any less legitimate?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:23 PM

17. SE Cupp

Is a fake atheist.

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