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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 01:39 PM

 

How Democrats & Progressives Can Win: George Lakoff

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Reply How Democrats & Progressives Can Win: George Lakoff (Original post)
3128 Sep 2012 OP
Lifelong Protester Sep 2012 #1
patrice Sep 2012 #3
elleng Sep 2012 #5
nenagh Sep 2012 #8
patrice Sep 2012 #2
jwirr Sep 2012 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #7
Lifelong Protester Sep 2012 #10
Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #6
elleng Sep 2012 #9
Quantess Sep 2012 #11
Scuba Sep 2012 #12

Response to 3128 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 01:53 PM

1. Thanks for posting, I have never heard him speak

Anyone know if this prof is on board? Has he been hired or consulted by the Dems?

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 01:58 PM

3. He's been around the party since 2004, that I know of. nt

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 02:23 PM

5. Had been retained by Dem party some years ago,

gave 'lessons' about how to 'talk,' 'frame,' etc. Dems ignored him. REALLY pissed me off.

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Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 03:44 PM

8. Thanks elleng,

That was my impression... that Dems didn't seem to take Lakoff seriously... meanwhile often using Repuke framing...

1994 or 6 Newt Gingrich wrote: Language: A Key Mechanism of Control.. propaganda.. but it shaped the thinking of many Repukes..

This is a great post... thanks..

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Response to 3128 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 01:56 PM

2. Which means that the appropriate response to "Make my day" & the cut-his-throat gesture is to

NOT refer to them at all - AND - instead constructing specific metaphors that are the opposite of vigilante "gun-justice" and the opposite of killing-those-we-oppose.

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Response to patrice (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 02:04 PM

4. Exactly. Take the high road.

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Response to patrice (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 02:49 PM

7. Actually no and yes.

Yes to positive metaphors.

But you can mention negative imagery if you tie it to the opposition. Thus you don't say "we aren't the party of throat-cutters". You say "The Republicans showcase violence like throat cutting at their convention". It's not high road versus low road; it's calling a scoundrel a scoundrel, "reality therapy". Too much high road, pure and clean looks weak and meek.

It's the same way Republicans mention "taxes". They call themselves the "tax relievers" and call us the "tax-and-spenders". The antidote is call them the "borrow-and-spend" party, and call us the "job creators", the "builders of infrastructure", the "educators for our future", etc.

Turn their phrasing around. So where they call themselves "tax cutters", say the "Republicans will cut the middle class to shreds" or "in ribbons" or "to pieces". That way when voters start to hear "cut" they start to feel they are being cut by Republicans. Say things like "The Republicans would make the middle class die by a thousand cuts."

"War on women" is a successful meme, especially when it is tied to the party as in "Republican war on women". It's negative, it's not high-roading, and it's not meek to bring the battle to the Republicans by making voters associate belligerent, violent, destructive imagery with them. They've been doing it to the Democratic Party for decades, because it is effective. We need to be even more effective.

You are right about terms like "gun-justice". That frames the debate as "guns = justice", which is nuts of course. So, taking the cue from Lakoff, talk about "relief from gun violence" and "peace and safety".

The modern world is more visual than ever. So bring it to the Republicans visually, audibly, and verbally by framing our policies and successes with positives visually, audibly, and verbally and framing their policies and failures with negatives visually, audibly, and verbally.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:58 PM

10. Great post, Bernardo La Paz

And thanks to all who clued me in.

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Response to 3128 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 02:24 PM

6. His points are excellent, must-do, pay attention. But video is from 2008 and the website is dead.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:02 PM

9. Right, Dems ignored him,

and I think his program, at Berkeley, lost funding.

http://georgelakoff.com/

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Response to 3128 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:32 AM

11. Good stuff.

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Response to 3128 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:38 AM

12. Great video and some great replies. Thanks to all. K&R.

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