Riding a Bike. (While Black)

[zebonaut]

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More information: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/teen-sues-tacoma-police-officer-others-over-brutalizing-her-in-mall-parking-lot/

[virgogal]

1. That is meaningless woithout a lot more information.

[Chakab]

4. The mall security guard was a Tacoma cop. He claims that he stopped

the girl and her brother for trespassing on private property because they rode their bikes through the mall parking lot during business hours.

After grabbing her by the throat and manhandling her, he brought charges against her for assault.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/teen-sues-tacoma-police-officer-others-over-brutalizing-her-in-mall-parking-lot/

[Spitfire of ATJ]

5. What kind of "information" is needed?

[virgogal]

7. A date,a place, reason for starters.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. You mean an excuse.

[Chakab]

13. I gave you the Times article. All of the relevant infomation is there for any excuse that you'd

like make.

[virgogal]

14. The OP had NO information None.

[kag]

2. Wow. That IS disturbing.

What the hell is wrong these cops?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

11. They think they're in an action movie where they're the star.

[Press Virginia]

3. Yeaaaah you don't try to just take off when the cop is talking to you

about something that he deemed necessary. And you don't resist when he's detaining you.
You aren't going to win that battle. You win with a good lawyer, in court when you sue his ass

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. And every incident has to get the full monty like it's bank robbers from adrenaline junkies.

[Press Virginia]

17. compliance is usually the best method in avoiding a beat down

she might have gotten a citation now she has a criminal charge or two

[Chakab]

20. She's not facing any charges. The judge who presided over her case threw out the charges upon

viewing the video because he came to the correct assessment, unlike you, that the officer's behavior was not warranted and that there was no evidence of assault or grounds for a charge of resisting arrest.


http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/teen-sues-tacoma-police-officer-others-over-brutalizing-her-in-mall-parking-lot/

[Press Virginia]

26. ahhh. Should have read the article first.

[zebonaut]

54. Yes the officers behavior was "not warranted". Now when does he LOSE his job for OUR protection??

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. So it's obey or die?

[Press Virginia]

25. In some cases

[Spitfire of ATJ]

27. Because that's the penalty a judge would have ordered. Right?

[Press Virginia]

29. There aint no judge on the side of the road

there are circumstances, there are decisions and there are outcomes.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. A cop is a servant of the law. Not it's master.

[Press Virginia]

37. you can remind him of that when he's tasing the piss out of you

I'll look for the best way to avoid all that and fight the battle where it can be won. In court. With a judge.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. Try that with a judge that votes Republican.

[Press Virginia]

40. better than being beaten by a cop that votes republican

I'm just saying if you want to avoid a beating or worse, the best course of action is first decide where your chances of winning are better.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. It's not about "winning". It's about police brutality.

[Press Virginia]

51. Compliance reduces the risk

If you broke no law, argue it in court

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. That's not a solution to police brutality. That is a "blame the victim" pantload.

[Press Virginia]

55. It's a solution to reducing the chances that it happens

[Spitfire of ATJ]

56. No it's NOT. The cop will LIE and claim the victim deserved it.

[Press Virginia]

57. Suuuuuuuuure he will

If you're getting beaten by a cop, there's a pretty good chance it's deaerved

[Spitfire of ATJ]

61. THAT is where you are wrong.

[Enthusiast]

35. Avoiding a beat down shouldn't even be in our vocabulary.

Unless the officer is in grave danger no beat down should ever even be considered at the officer's peril of losing their job.

Under no circumstances is an officer to ever administer punishment of any kind which is implied in a "beat down". Are you a cop? You sound like one. One that needs an education.

Maybe if these fucking cops would quit taking so many steroids they wouldn't be so quick to resort to unwarranted violence.

[Press Virginia]

36. neither should a lot of things...link hunger, disease, racism

but that's not the world we live in

[Chakab]

12. I agree to some extent about the way that she acted, but what does it say about society that you

have to be concerned about being assaulted and detailed on made up charges because you are not sufficiently deferential to law enforcement?

Keep in mind that these kids committed no actual crime. The cop decided to turn his sirens on and hassle them because he didn't like where they were riding their bikes.

There are a bunch of guys with badges who are looking to escalate every interaction from zero to nuclear for no valid reason.

[Press Virginia]

16. I would say her chances of being assaulted would have been greatly reduced

by COMPLYING with the officer. Arguing with him or ignoring him isn't going to help you in any way.
You will lose 100% of the time.
You comply, get a lawyer and fight it in court. Not create a new charge because you disagreed with the bullshit charge.

[Chakab]

19. Yeah, I agree. It's best not to argue. However, nothing that I saw in the video warrated the

amount of force that was used.

The notion that she was resisting after he initiated contact is ridiculous. Most people will instinctually behave in the manner that she did when that type of force is being applied.

[Enthusiast]

58. Huge +1!

[LiberalArkie]

6. The notes said she was arrested for riding a bike though a parking lot.

So he was originally going to charge her with resisting arrest as well as assaulting an officer.

But in order to resist an arrest, one has to be in the process of being arrested in the first place...So what exactly was he going to claim she was being arrested for?

[Chakab]

9. They charge people with resisting when there's no underlying crime all the fucking time.

There always has to be some justification, no matter how frivolous, to justify bringing somebody in "on a humble."

Because DAs almost never go after cops for false arrest, filing false charges and lying in their incident reports (which are crimes), they license to arrest whoever they want to without cause.

The charges will get dropped after the fact if, but the person who gets taken into custody still has to go through a lot of grief.

[Press Virginia]

18. ummm no.

she was likely to get a ticket. she created the resisting and assault charge on her own.

[Chakab]

21. A ticket is an administrative offense, and there's nothing in video that even comes close

to an assault her part.

It's one thing to make the argument that it isn't smart to talk back to cops or to antagonize them in any way, which I agree with. However, you actually seem to be justifying the nonsense charges that the officer brought in that situation, which is laughable.

[Press Virginia]

30. When she attempted to ride her bike, he pulled her off

That's at about the 1:15 mark. WE don't see what happened between him pulling her off and the point when she's pinned against the truck.
When he attempts to cuff her and she resists...that's grounds for resisting. If she touches the officer, that's assault.

Like it or not, that's what it is.

[Press Virginia]

52. Touch the cop, in an attempt to prevent him from doing

his activity, it's assault. If he's arresting you and you try to prevent it it's resisting and assault

[KT2000]

24. Assault charge?

so if a police officer is beating you, do not even try to protect yourself? Wow - that is some entitlement. Good thing this was recorded.

All the cop had to do was grab her jacket when it looked like she was going to leave. But no, he had to beat the shit out of her and tase her after she was thrown to the ground. This is to say nothing of throwing her around by her hair. This is not acceptable.

I suppose all children who take short-cuts through huge mall parking lots to get home should be treated like this - unless they are white.
This was a racial incident.

[Press Virginia]

28. I've never seen an officer beat a compliant person.

[KT2000]

31. watch the video again

[Press Virginia]

42. which part of the video does the officer beat her while

she is compliant?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

39. Lol. Is this a joke?

[Press Virginia]

41. nope. If you have video of a compliant person being beaten, I'd love to see it

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[Hassin Bin Sober]

43. .

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[Press Virginia]

45. uh, I see his left hand go under his body

that's not compliance

[Hassin Bin Sober]

46. His hands were behind his back when the first kick to the head landed.

[Press Virginia]

47. not his left one

[Hassin Bin Sober]

59. Bullshit. He made that proping move with his left hand before the kicker was near him.

He was back in prone position and/or with his hands behind his back before he was kicked.




He goes to pron position while the cops are several feet away. The kicker isn't in the picture yet @0:22:




The cop who kicked him is second in line and not anywhere close when he uses his left hand to prop himself up here in the motion you seem to be hanging your hat on @0:24:



Going back to prone:



He then goes back to prone position as the kicker gets closer but is still number two in line here @0:25:



His hands are in the small of his back in the "cuff me" position when the first kick to the head is administered @0:26:

[Press Virginia]

60. Then why do they keep pulling on his left arm?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

44. .

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[Hassin Bin Sober]

48. .

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[406-Boz]

49. It's easy to hate the cops

Some/most try hard to be stupid assholes, they succeed.

[packman]

15. That "resisting arrest" is a bogus, fucked-up charge

You put your hand up to stop a cop from hitting you, turn to the side , try to avoid any injury from a crazed assault (as shown in the video) - it's resisting arrest. Bullshit.

[libodem]

22. Looks like walling

Wonder if those cops were Blackwater contractors from Afghanistan or Iraq. Or maybe they were one of the lucky brigades to be trained in Israel with the techniques they use on Palestinians?

[Enthusiast]

32. Fucking savage! Skinhead asshole!