TYT: Will Bernie Sanders Run As A Third Party Candidate?

[hrc guy]

I'm sure a lot of Bros would love it. But, despite his pie-in-the-sky proposals, Bernie is a sane man---and a patriot: I've never thought otherwise!---who will not risk putting the country into the hands of an orange-haired bigot OR a Canadian with a Messiah Complex.

[Baobab]

20. Why the desperation, HRC folks?

Why the desperation to get Bernie out of the race?

Hillary folk should think back to 2008 when HRC was in this situation.

[Baobab]

25. Well, this is one situation where I hate to win, since Ive been saying all along that we're really s

crewed if this happens and if Hillary wins I'll be proven right, you know.

Probably the biggest wealth transfer in human history away from us and to the already wealthy under the guise of progressive liberalisation, there is no ambiguity, the American people will be the biggest losers. thanks to the generosity of the Clintons with other peoples livelihoods.

You can read that in economic analysis after another-

Here's one, read page 287

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTRANETTRADE/Resources/C13.pdf

here is another..

"For a deeper understanding of how migration could equalize the price of labour in two trading
countries, consider figure one (from Senior Nello, 2005:145): There are two countries, Home
and Foreign. The total quantity of labour in the two countries is shown by the distance OhOf.
Before a fully free migration is allowed the distribution of labor is OhL in Home and OfL in
Foreign. The marginal product of labour is higher in Home than in foreign because the
capital/labor ratio is higher in Home. This is shown in the figure by the higher position of the
MPLh curve compared to the MPLf curve. Because of this the wage is higher in Home, at Wh
compared with the wage in Foreign at Wf. In short: Home symbolizes a developed country with
high automatization and high wages and Foreign a less developed country with abundant supply
of labour, low automatization and low wages. If migration is fully free between the two
countries and the workers are identical workers will migrate from Foreign to Home in pursuit of
higher wages. The migration will finally result in an equalized capital/labor ratio in the two
countries and thus equal marginal products of labor and equal wages, illustrated in the figure by
the wage level W' which could be seen as the world market price of labor as the world only
consists of the two countries Home and Foreign. The migration is illustrated in the figure by the
distance LL' which is the amount of workers that will move from Foreign to Home so that the
new distribution of labour becomes OhL' in Home and L'Of in Foreign.

Wages will thus decrease in Home and increase in Foreign resulting in a loss for the indigenous
workers in Home illustrated in the figure by the area a but a gain for the capital owners of the
areas a+b. In Foreign the workers get an increased income of areas c+d+e while the capital
owners lose areas d+e. The result in total is a net gain for the two countries by areas b+c which
is a gain resulting from higher efficiency in the use of the total resources of the two countries.
This simplified model of reality shows not only that there is a net gain but also that the
migration has clear redistributional effects, something that will be discussed below"

[Hoyt]

35. In other words, Nationalism and America First, screw poor foreigners.

[Baobab]

41. What I have to say to that is

that there is a wolf in sheeps clothing situation.

This is what happens with NPDers and thats why they do so much damage.

They are the great deceivers.

Sorry, but its the truth.

NPD is the best argument for early childhood stability I know of. Its an affective disorder caused by stress around age 6.

People with NPDs do not have empathy or a normal moral compass.

[oldandhappy]

30. Have not voted yet.

You all have been wanting Bernie out of the race for two months now. I would like to vote!! Please. Allow the process to happen.

[dana_b]

38. me too and she has not reached the required number

of pledged delegates so noone has "lost" anything yet!

[MFM008]

28. There is no "desperation"

Facts are like science and much of science involves facts. (Me)
You take the blue pill or the red pill but you take a pill. (Matrix)
The way is shut, it is kept by those who are dead ( Lord of the Rings)

Facts and Math..
see how nastiness is working for the republicans.

[jalan48]

2. Not this time, but the parties of greed have been put on notice.

2018 & 2020 are going to be interesting.

[Agnosticsherbet]

3. Sanders has not indicated that he wants to turn everything over to the Republicans.

And he knows very well that a third party candidate will never win the White House.

[turbinetree]

4. I want to see and hear what happens at the convention..............I want to see what this platform.

is going to be........................


Honk----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[polichick]

5. The bigot, the religious nut or the corporate tool? No thanks x3. If Bernie could still...

run third party, he'd have Dems, Republicans and indies voting for him. Unity.

[Merryland]

26. I totally agree with you -

He could do it as an independent - don't know how that would work in terms of getting on ballots.

[captainarizona]

6. third party candidate already

Its called the green party.

[polichick]

7. Jill Stein has reached out to Bernie in the past.

[cureautismnow]

8. I would like to see a poll conducted of a 4-way race in the GE,

between Trump (Rep. or Ind.), Cruz or some other conservative dirtbag (Rep. or Ind.), Hillary (Dem.), and Bernie (Ind.). I think that poll would be very interesting.

[PotatoChip]

9. Bernie agreed to run as a Dem and has taken a lot of criticism from the far left

for doing so. They feared that if he lost the primary, he'd be encouraging his supporters to vote for Hillary. "Sheep-dogging for Democrats" they called it... In a sense, they are kind of right about that, because he has said that he will endorse Hillary if he loses the nomination. And he has always been a man of his word.

BUT-- when he agreed to this, I don't think he realized the extent to which the DNC, and many D state parties would go to sabotage his campaign. It has been shockingly blatant. In my opinion, by not remaining neutral as is customary for the party (at least with non-incumbents in a primary) they have already breached the agreement.

Knowing Bernie, he will probably stick to his word, but I doubt anyone would blame him if he broke it.

[PotatoChip]

16. With Hillary as our nominee, we will likely end up with a Trump, Cruz, or Kasich Presidency anyway.

But just to be clear, I'm not pushing for an independent Bernie run for the GE.-Just pointing out that I wouldn't be surprised if the Bernie or Bust types might.

Additionally, many people who have been watching this primary closely probably wouldn't blame him if he were to go ahead and do it. I doubt he would though.

[Baobab]

42. The devil you know is better than somebody who claims to be your friend

THE SECOND IS FAR MORE DAMAGING.


Its like hiring a lawyer who turns out to be crooked and working for the other side

Bill Black has written extensively on control fraud and regulatory capture and even state capture in the context of banks and financial regulation.

Structurally that is very similar to what is going on now.

I am sorry to say this but it needs to be said.

I am a Democrat and I have to eb honest about this. Please let me show you that what I am saying is true. You will be just as angry as I am when you see the proof.

For example, watch Nicholas Skalas video from justa few weeks before his sudden death.

Now are you furious in a different way?

[Geronimoe]

10. Taking into account how unfair the process has been

by all means run as an independent. Little doubt he would win.

[Hoyt]

37. He'd split the vote and GOPers in Congress would appoint President Trump/Cruz.

[KoKo]

11. Bernie's Campaign Manager says "No!Bernie is Staying with the Dem Party"

Just now on Bloomberg's "All Due Respect" show. Bernie is not running for Third Party even though the Clinton Campaign keeps putting that out there.

[rpannier]

12. What pie-in-the-sky proposals?

[PatrynXX]

15. Seeing that Independents and Republicans by and large would vote for him and Democrats

Because they hate trump if he did run. Which I have a doubt although I'll still write his name in. He'd probably be the only 3rd party candidate with a valid shot at winning. We have Fantasy make shit up Plump on well he's a moderate and then Hillary is can't do it person . I prefer Bernie's shoot for higher so we can get stuff done approach. Do get things done in washington you don't aim for what you can get because you'll never get it, you aim for what you can't get so you can get what you can get.

[zebonaut]

17. Would a Clinton/Warren ticket appease Bernie supporters somewhat??

[zalinda]

18. No !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clinton is the problem and always will be. eom

[Baobab]

21. Elizabeth Warren would be nuts to associate herself with HRC.

in my opinion.

[BillZBubb]

27. No, but a Warren/Clinton ticket would!

[zalinda]

19. According to Hillary supporters he's not a Democrat.

I guess he's a Democrat ONLY when they want him to be.

Z

[Baobab]

22. He is far more of a Democrat than she

In my opinion.

[oldandhappy]

32. x2

[oldandhappy]

31. No. Bernie is about issues.

clinton wants to be president

Bernie wants to have us grapple with issues. He will continue the push on the issues for as long as he can.

[mikehiggins]

33. Nope. He said he won't from the very start and he plans to stay with the Democratic Party no matter

how this turns out.

[stopbush]

34. Sore loser laws would keep him off the ballot in a number of states.

[northernsouthern]

36. Berniebros.

Does it make you feel warm to get all misogynistic?

[NorthCarolina]

40. Wouldn't affect Hillary's chances either way.

She will not be 45. She has zero support outside the Democratic Party; no independents, no disgruntled republicans. She has about 50-60% of registered Democrats and that's it.

[Baobab]

43. I am not kidding when I tell you that HRC is part of a group of people who are

literally trying to take over the world with lies and cheap lawyers tricks and their rade deals.

Read this paper.

The Potential Impact of the World Tr ade Organ ization’s General Agreement on Trade In Services on Health System Reform and Regulation in the United States. [Int J Health Serv. 2009

Its findable in an instant on scholar.google.com

Read it - it will blow your mind.

Note the dates, the deal was being written at the same time as "sillarycare"

Nobody could make this up, I swear I am telling the truth.

Its a huge scheme to literally take over the future world and lock down all of us into bad choices, world with lies.

Because jobs are going away fast because of automation and they dont know what to do. They are doing the opposite of what needs to be done.


Lets unite around justice and democracy.

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news I dont hold it against you.

I used to be a HRC supporter myself. Before I realized just how deep and wide this scheme was.

Now I am a very pissed person.

But we can and will be better than this.