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Powerful Hillary ad out today in CT featuring @EricaSmegs whose mom was killed in Sandy Hook
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My Mom | Hillary Clinton
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Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)of a tragegy for political gain
Reminder of this:
Wonder if she spent the money she got from the NRA lobbyists to make that ad.
riversedge
(70,003 posts)you do not want this.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Not much honor in that...
Loki
(3,825 posts)I have, so don't tell me that i can't say or support who I want to, or by doing so, someone is using me for political gain. It's my decision, not yours, and I don't really give a flying you know what about what you think or care what you think.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)My condo lances for your lost family.
If you ask me, no gun belongs in a civil society where the greatest risk you take is being run over in traffic, or die of some disease caused by global warming.
Guns only belongs in law enforcement (but they shall not be armed at all time, only in times of a crime committed while armed.)
Guns belongs on the shooting range.
Guns belongs in the army.
Guns belongs with hunters.
They do not belong in family homes in Suburbia, in an apt block on the Upper East Side, or Spanish Harlem. Neither do guns belong in churches, banks, or any place else where large crowds gather
But that doesn't give you or anyone else on the Hillary side the right to paint Hillary as some anti-gun peace dove and Bernie as some wild eyed gun nut with close ties to NRA when the opposite is the actual fact and being called out on it.. I mean, some people live in a pretty small world when one issue sways ones vote based on direct smear hits that would have reached half away around the world before the Truth have gotten on its socks.
Are Hillary supporters so stubborn and childish that they make conclusions based on ads purchased by money taken from NRA lobbyists?
Hillary surrogates both here and elsewhere throws a temper tantrum going sc ape goa ting as a signal form a dog whistle. And finds a Liberal Jew a fitting sacrificial lamb to throw all their anger at because he he says correctly that no manufacturer or salesman can be held accountable for the crimes of others. It's like arresting the kids who watched a "fight" and didn't try to stop it.
So don't tell me that Hillary cares an ounce about your or anybody else's kids if she can make a buck of it, or lie about her opponents using victims in a sleazy campaign while selling arms to a regime that kills far more people than American kids.
'Why don't you show some sympathy for the half a million Iraqi mothers and children who died due to Bill Clinton's embargo that included the to refuse the Iraqis getting clean drinking water? I mean, will you supporting someone who has made a literal killing by taking money from an arms industry as well as regimes who literally plans to use on civilian population?
Why don't you show some sympathy for the victims of the wars that Hillary has supported?
Why don't you show some sympathy for the kids Hillary wants to send back to American funded military juntas, death squads and the gangs who are out to rape and kill in Latin America?
Why don't you explain Hillary's staunch support FOR the arms industry by labeling Obama as anti-gun and anti 2nd Amendment during the 2008 election?
Why don't you explain how you support someone who actually takes money from the gun lobby in order to paint her opponent as some wild eyed gun nut on the payroll of cynical gun manufacturers who sells guns for people to slaughter each other with?
Why is the Hillary camp desperately trying to smear Bernie with that if he never was a threat in the first place?
Why don't you explain the media blackout, and the sudden anti-Bernie sentiment across the board as soon as he started gaining momentum?
(I forgot! It's USA! The "Land of the Free" who let's people arrested for disorder die in custody, tortures brown people because someone sold them in Pakistan as terrorist for a few rupees. The country that shields war criminals and punishes whistle blowers. The country where republicans cry "free speech" but put a muzzle on climate change scientists, banning them from using the term "global warming" in professional context to explain what is happening. The country where pot smokers spends years as cheap slave labor on the private prison plantations while bankers who defraud an entire population and launders billions of drug money never experience a second in handcuffs or will ever see the inside of a prison cell.
A lot of people seem to fall for cheap jingos and thinly veiled attacks as something legit and will stick to anyone they have some irrational dislike for.
It seems that a lot of American voters on all sides hate being called out on their stunning hypocrisy and lack of educated decisions where they cast their vote for their own personal pet peeves and think their candidate will follow through with their promises disguised as some meaningful campaign ad before getting the marching orders from their donors.
Makes the Carlinist come out in me again.
If you are anti-gun, then push to repeal the 2nd Amendment and change it to the right to health care, education and ownership of ones own body.
Loki
(3,825 posts)You want to talk hypocrisy. Tell me why he voted against the war but funded it with every dollar the Bush Administration wanted? Tell me that. Kosovo, yeah that war, he liked that one, and Afghanistan, well the only vote against that one was Barbara Lee. Pull troops out of Iraq, no leave them there longer so they and kill more people and have more of them killed. You can't have it both ways. At least she owns her mistakes, Bernie just wants you to believe he is the only righteous man. He's no better than every other politician who protects his own and has his hand out for more money. Show some sympathy? That's like telling someone who has been in the military or have members of their family in the military they don't know the cost of war. We know, and we have paid in blood. If Bernie really wanted to lead his revolution, then he should have stayed an Independent and formed a following and took it from there. He's the coward because he took the path of least resistance, and you want me to pat him on the back for that. He's the one who laughed during the debate about families losing their loved ones to gun violence and has a great rating from the NRA. Yea don't sue the gun makers, because we want to protect them from losing all their shit. You car goes south and kills someone in your family, sue GM, Ford, Chrysler till they bleed, right? People are dying in this country from police violence and all you hear from Republicans, yes Republicans, is they somehow must have done something wrong and deserved it. Have you heard any Democrat say something that disgusting? You live in your own little vacuum and those of us out here how have been fighting this fight for years, are being told by you that we just haven't done enough. Like I said, lose someone in your family to gun violence, then maybe we might have something to talk about. I want sensible gun laws, not confiscation (the republican word) but my family member was murdered by a police officer who walked away a free man. She was murdered in front of her three children at a traffic stop and her mother and father, retired military, were left to raise them on their own.
Roy Rolling
(6,902 posts)I'm sure this lady had a burning desire to tell her story how Hillary Clinton will ease the pain of her loss.
Give me a break. Pandering to the lowest emotions, and many fell for it.
hrc guy
(73 posts)What? She shouldn't be allowed to say whatever she wants? WTF? 
riversedge
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Bubzer
(4,211 posts)even if they happen to be an arms-dealing, pro-TPP, Iraq war voting, corrupt hawk.
And I'm free to put her on ignore... ahhhh, sooooo much better...oops! Almost forgot you! Bye! 
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)Democrats make various statements and offer legislation that never makes it to a committee knowing full well that it is politically impossible to get any significant regulation passed--and whatever is passed won't last long because there is constant push back from the NRA. But the promises can still be used to gain support and mobilize supporters.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Follow the money folks, you'll find Hillary has been very good for the gun manufacturers.
American amnesia... Hillary was portraying herself as little Oakley Annie when running against Obama.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)but that said, you have to get money out of politics before getting any real gun legislation through will be possible. Money out of politics is the way you hit the nra where it hurts. They will no longer be able to lobby politicians and the gun companies won't be able to buy them.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)I blocked her on Twitter.
