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Brooklyn Born Native Son, Bernie Sanders (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
Bernie Is The Only Antidote For The Corrupt Nation Once Known As America cantbeserious Apr 2016 #1
You can't be serious. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #2
It's the truth... Hillary is a corrupt carpetbagger GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #4
In the 2006 primary for her second Senate term, Hillary got 84% of the vote. pnwmom Apr 2016 #7
Well now they have a much better choice to make! dchill Apr 2016 #8
Her percent has declined and your right. Her opponent is now very tough. Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #10
Soon those independent-minded "leaning-Dem" voters will discover they can't vote in the primary pnwmom Apr 2016 #12
Hope your wrong! Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #15
I resent your characterization of "loyal Democrats." dchill Apr 2016 #17
That's perfect TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #23
Agree. I never voted for the Iraq War, supported DOMA/DADT, worked for Wal-Mart's BOD, Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #25
Right on. bjo59 Apr 2016 #34
She was a high school student with Republican parents when she wore a pin for Goldwater. pnwmom Apr 2016 #38
Hillary admires, is a close friend to Henry Kissinger; he's her mentor and she is long out Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #55
Bernie carla Apr 2016 #60
Hillary Clinton supported Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election - Snopes 'TRUE' tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #44
I've been one since 1960 and I'm not sure about her, either. Duval Apr 2016 #71
Hillary v. Republican in a GE in NY. Yeah. . .that is a barometer of NYers liking her Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #29
Hillary in the PRIMARY against a DEM got 84%. pnwmom Apr 2016 #37
In the primary, she ran against Jonathan Tasini, a nobody with no chance in Hell. Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #40
There were no bigger "somebodies" who didn't support her. A sign of her strength in NY. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #41
Keep shilling for her. You have no legs to stand on. I am done with you. Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #42
If you're bothered by the presence of Hillary supporters, feel free to confine yourself pnwmom Apr 2016 #43
Isn't he the same nobody murielm99 Apr 2016 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #39
the country has moved along in its assessment of the Clintons NJCher Apr 2016 #62
Hillary is someone who, as an adult, finally had a chance pnwmom Apr 2016 #63
Ironic that you would call Hillary a carpetbagger when Sanders is a carpetbagger in Vermont. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #31
Ironic you would find my comment ironic GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #45
HRC spent the last 17 years of her adult life as a NY resident; BS only 6 and it was 48 years ago. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #69
How many years did Bernie live in VT before becoming its representative or even mayor of Burlington? karynnj Apr 2016 #61
hmm NJCher Apr 2016 #64
Sanders ran quixotic campaigns under the Liberty Union Party banner once he moved to Vermont. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #67
I was sure I'd see a "Bernie isn't a real dem or NYer. hughee99 Apr 2016 #70
Links to Sanders "bashing the Democratic Party for decades"! Please? Duval Apr 2016 #72
Seriously? SunSeeker Apr 2016 #74
+1 lunamagica Apr 2016 #77
lol. DO u think Hillary is going to end legalized bribery in our govt by the rich? ErikJ Apr 2016 #9
I think she has a better chance to win in November and to nominate pnwmom Apr 2016 #11
Bernie has a much better chance to win the GE ErikJ Apr 2016 #13
He's not having record turnouts by African Americans, Latinos, and women. pnwmom Apr 2016 #16
Voting because of skin color is just as dumb as voting because of sex. I'm Jewish, so I should be Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #26
Agreed, but a woman pres would help a lot tho. ErikJ Apr 2016 #36
but a woman pres AlbertCat Apr 2016 #48
Her policies in the ME has had the same "positive impact" Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #66
I'm calling bull butter on this... chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #20
^^^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #27
Bills fan here also! chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #33
Do you think Bernie is going to end legalized bribery in government? beastie boy Apr 2016 #52
You can't be serious. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #49
You're Probably Right. gordyfl Apr 2016 #3
YES! Helen Borg Apr 2016 #47
I agree, cantbeserious. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #53
I've come to really love your mantras, cbs... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #68
"WE'RE All In This Together." Go New York & Bernie! Jane Sanders is Brooklyn raised too. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #5
Love. This. Man. Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #14
Same here. Never have I seen or believed in a candidate as much as Bernie. It's remarkable.:) appalachiablue Apr 2016 #18
He announced. I was behind him 100%. He could knife a nun in the middle of Times Square Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #21
Hey now! Whoa, I understand support, but not that far! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #22
What if it was a terrorist nun? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #51
In the extreme case....! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #54
That was tongue firmly planted in cheek. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #56
I know, just playing but have to scoot from this board now. Things getting wild! appalachiablue Apr 2016 #57
Wow. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #32
"knife a nun in the middle of Times Square " DesertRat Apr 2016 #75
Um...ooooookay NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #79
Some people here take themselves WAAAY too seriously. Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #80
Actually, NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #81
Stay classy shenmue Apr 2016 #82
I plan to. . .another person who takes themselves too seriously on an internet forum. Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #83
K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #6
K&R! dchill Apr 2016 #19
K & R!! hopemountain Apr 2016 #24
That is just so excellent! highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #28
so bernie and his wife fled brooklyn as fast as they could ... thanks for the tip nt msongs Apr 2016 #30
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #35
He has lived in New York longer than that carpetbagger in a pantsuit. GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #46
A take off on the Frank Sinatra song "New York, New York"..... George II Apr 2016 #50
Kickety kick-kick. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2016 #58
Wow, Bernie knocks it out of the park - again. lark Apr 2016 #59
What a wonderful ad. classykaren Apr 2016 #65
K&R! Bernie and Jane! Duval Apr 2016 #73
Feel The Bern! Jerrymooney Apr 2016 #76

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
7. In the 2006 primary for her second Senate term, Hillary got 84% of the vote.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:32 PM
Apr 2016

And in the general she got 67%.

New Yorkers loved this "carpet bagger."

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
12. Soon those independent-minded "leaning-Dem" voters will discover they can't vote in the primary
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:47 PM
Apr 2016

because they were too stubborn to register as Democrats.

This primary will be decided by loyal Democrats, and they love Hillary.

dchill

(38,437 posts)
17. I resent your characterization of "loyal Democrats."
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016

I've been one since 1992. I'm not sure about Hillary.

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
23. That's perfect
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:12 AM
Apr 2016

I don't think she has ever been one either. I can proudly say I have never in my life ever shared the same values as a segregation loving republican like say...Goldwater. My beliefs have stayed the same my entire life. I never had to evolve on so many issues that common sense would tell anyone moral person what is right from the start.

This "loyal" democrat is voting for the only Democrat running, Bernie Sanders.

GO BERNIE!!!

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
25. Agree. I never voted for the Iraq War, supported DOMA/DADT, worked for Wal-Mart's BOD,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

praised Nancy Reagan or Henry Kissinger, sold my soul for Goldman Sachs money, lied about taking sniper fire in Bosnia or loved war so much that there wasn't one since 1990 I didn't support (Somalia, Bosnia, Libya, Iraq 1 and 2, Afghanistan, etc).

But she is a good Democrat. Party over principles for HRC shills and robots!

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
38. She was a high school student with Republican parents when she wore a pin for Goldwater.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:24 AM
Apr 2016

In college, on her own, she switched to the Democratic party -- years before she was old enough to vote.

Bernie, OTOH, didn't become a Democrat till sometime last year.

Uncle Joe

(58,282 posts)
55. Hillary admires, is a close friend to Henry Kissinger; he's her mentor and she is long out
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

of high school.

Unless I missed any news updates to the contrary, Kissinger was/is a blood soaked Republican.

carla

(553 posts)
60. Bernie
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

has voted with the Dems almost unanimously, except for war and job theft. Democrats that sell out the nation's workers to businesses that buy their political voice by lobbying and bribing are just DINOs and Shillary has long been a Democrat in NAME ONLY. Bernie is the genuine article and has more than proven that except with the high school rahrah squads that back "America's first woman president (NOT)".
We the people, are sick of the coordinated lies that pass for a party these days. Fuck Shillary, I want some real concern and work done for the American people and not for a bunch of greedy donors who don't respect law anymore than their chosen candidate. Bernie Sanders is what a Democratic politician and senator looks like.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
44. Hillary Clinton supported Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election - Snopes 'TRUE'
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:42 AM
Apr 2016

Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Snopes 'TRUE'



While the Civil Rights demonstrations against Goldwater marched, guess which side she was on?

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
29. Hillary v. Republican in a GE in NY. Yeah. . .that is a barometer of NYers liking her
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

HRC fans really do love their wind tunnel logic.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
40. In the primary, she ran against Jonathan Tasini, a nobody with no chance in Hell.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:32 AM
Apr 2016

In the general, she ran against another nobody in John Spencer.

Yes, she trounced nobodies. That's like celebrating a Golden State Warriors, a team with 72 wins, NBA win over the Philadelphia 76ers, a team with nine wins.

WTG, your victories, HRC, proved you can trounced nobodies. Still doesn't prove a damn thing. You HRC shills really have nothing left to claw to. You've sacrificed your Democratic Party principles for a DOMA/DADT supporting, Iraq War supporting, former Wal-Mart BOD member who tried to politically rehabilitate Kissinger and Nancy Reagan while shilling for the big banks and loving Republicans so much was a proud Goldwater girl when Goldwater was fighting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, something Bernie was getting arrested supporting and working for.

I guess selling out is easy when victory is all people care about.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
42. Keep shilling for her. You have no legs to stand on. I am done with you.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:55 AM
Apr 2016

I think that wind tunnel of the HRC group that has banned almost 900 people for dating to question her highness is better suited for this. You won't have to worry about people debating you, as anyone that dares question Lady Clinton get banned.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
43. If you're bothered by the presence of Hillary supporters, feel free to confine yourself
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:04 AM
Apr 2016

to the Bernie group.

murielm99

(30,715 posts)
78. Isn't he the same nobody
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:13 PM
Apr 2016

who joined the Sanders campaign not long ago?

I guess nobodies with no chance in hell have to stick together.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #7)

NJCher

(35,619 posts)
62. the country has moved along in its assessment of the Clintons
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

Including NYS.

It took time, but people are starting to see the ill effects of their policies.

She's a carpetbagger, yes, and we have better choices, thank Dog.


Cher

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
63. Hillary is someone who, as an adult, finally had a chance
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

to choose where she wanted to live -- after leaving her birthplace to go to college in New England, and then to follow a husband to Arkansas and D.C.

She chose N.Y., and became a New Yorker. Just like millions of others have chosen New York.

As opposed to Bernie, who, as an adult, finally had a chance to choose where he wanted to live -- and left his birthplace of New York to transfer to the University of Chicago -- and then chose to move to bucolic Vermont and become a Vermonter.

She's the real New Yorker, not Bernie. He's someone who got out of New York the first chance he had, and stayed out.

P.S. You have a strange definition of carpet bagger, but if Hillary was one, then so was Bernie. They both moved to a new place before getting into politics.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
31. Ironic that you would call Hillary a carpetbagger when Sanders is a carpetbagger in Vermont.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:36 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders who left Brooklyn to run his Liberty Union Party campaigns in Vermont. And speaking of carpetbagging, after bashing the Democratic Party for decades, Sanders joined it so he could take advantage of its apparatus and for the media exposure for his presidential campaign, as he has admitted.

Hillary actually lives in New York. New Yorkers have accepted her as their own; she won her second term as Senator with 67% of the vote. And she has been a Democrat her entire adult life.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
69. HRC spent the last 17 years of her adult life as a NY resident; BS only 6 and it was 48 years ago.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

The Clintons purchased their home in Chappaqua, New York, north of New York City, in September 1999. So they have lived in New York for about the last 17 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

Sanders was born in Brooklyn on September 8, 1941, but left Brooklyn to attend the University of Chicago in 1961. Sanders studied at Brooklyn College for a year in 1959–60, but his mother died in June 1959 at the age of 46 (father died three years later in 1962, at age 57), so that may explain why he chose to move to Chicago to attend the University of Chicago in 1961, from where he graduated in 1964. He then moved back to New York and became a graduate student at the New School for Social Research, and worked odd jobs for a few years. Sanders abandoned Brooklyn for good in 1968, moving to Vermont, and has lived in Vermont ever since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

So, Sanders was a resident of the state of New York for a total of about 23 years. That is not significantly more than Hillary's 17 years, particularly considering most of Sanders' years in New York were as a child who had no choice but to live there.

As far as years of his adult life that he lived there--when he had control over where he lived--it is much less than Hillary, totaling only about 6 years. He turn 18 in 1959, and lived in Brooklyn for 2 years before moving to Chicago. Then after graduating from University of Chicago in 1964, he came back to New York, where he lived for about 4 more years before moving to Vermont--his residence of choice, as opposed to birth.

Sanders hasn't lived in New York in 48 years, and even then, only 6 of it as an adult. As adults, Hillary chose New York; Sanders abandoned it.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
61. How many years did Bernie live in VT before becoming its representative or even mayor of Burlington?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

How long did HRC live in NY before becoming Senator? the latter answer is easy -- until January 2001, Clinton was living in the WH, though she had bought a NY house in September 1999 -- slightly more than a year before winning her Senate race.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
67. Sanders ran quixotic campaigns under the Liberty Union Party banner once he moved to Vermont.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:04 PM
Apr 2016

In 1968, Sanders moved to Vermont because he had been "captivated by rural life." After his arrival there he worked as a carpenter, filmmaker, and writer[44] who created and sold "radical film strips" and other educational materials to schools.[45]

Liberty Union campaigns

Sanders began his electoral political career in 1971 as a member of the Liberty Union Party, which originated in the anti-war movement and the People's Party. He ran as the Liberty Union candidate for governor of Vermont in 1972 and 1976 and as a candidate for U.S. senator in 1972 and 1974.[46] In the 1974 senatorial race, Sanders finished third (5,901 votes; 4.1%), behind 33-year-old Chittenden County State's Attorney Patrick Leahy (D, VI; 70,629 votes; 49.4%) and two-term incumbent U.S. Representative Dick Mallary (R; 66,223 votes; 46.3%).[47][48]

The 1976 campaign proved to be the zenith of Liberty Union's influence, with Sanders collecting 11,000 votes for governor and the party. This forced the races for lieutenant governor and secretary of state to be decided by the state legislature when its vote total prevented either the Republican or Democratic candidates for those offices from garnering a majority of votes.[49] The campaign drained the finances and energy of the Liberty Union, however, and in October 1977—less than a year after the conclusion of the 1976 campaign—Sanders and the Liberty Union candidate for attorney general, Nancy Kaufman, announced their retirement from the party.[50]

Following his resignation from Liberty Union, Sanders worked as a writer and the director of the nonprofit American People's Historical Society (APHS).[51] While with the APHS, he made a 30-minute documentary about American Socialist leader and presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs.[32][52]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders


He then finally gave up and rebranded himself an "Independent." That is how he ran when he got the mayor job in 1980.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
70. I was sure I'd see a "Bernie isn't a real dem or NYer.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

Post. Thanks for making it easy to find. What's up next, Hillary has been Jewish for decades longer than Bernie?

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
9. lol. DO u think Hillary is going to end legalized bribery in our govt by the rich?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:40 PM
Apr 2016

She is part of the problem. The root cause of America's problems.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
11. I think she has a better chance to win in November and to nominate
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:43 PM
Apr 2016

new Justices to the Supreme Court who would rule differently on a case like Citizens v. United.

Bernie doesn't have any magic wand -- and he's not even doing anything to get more Dems elected to Congress.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
13. Bernie has a much better chance to win the GE
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

He is having record turnouts especially by the young. And so he'll also have much longer coat-tails than Hillary. It would be neat tho to have a woman as president. It would inspire billions of women across the globe that they can be much more than just baby making machines.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
16. He's not having record turnouts by African Americans, Latinos, and women.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

And they are all critical parts of the Democratic constituency.

Thank you for acknowledging that having a woman President would be a significant thing. It would mean as much to millions of women and girls as Obama's election has meant to African Americans.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
26. Voting because of skin color is just as dumb as voting because of sex. I'm Jewish, so I should be
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

completely behind Bernie for that. . .but I'm behind him because he, as Dick Van Dyke said and I have always said, is a real New Deal Democrat and we need another FDR.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
36. Agreed, but a woman pres would help a lot tho.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

THe US and world would be much better off with more women in office. In most countries women are seen as little more than baby making machines. Just think of the impact it might possibly have on Muslim countries.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
48. but a woman pres
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

Can we pick a woman prez for more than her 2 X chromosomes please?

"Just think of the impact it might possibly have on Muslim countries." I think Hillary's had enough impact on Muslim countries.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
66. Her policies in the ME has had the same "positive impact"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

on Muslim countries as her husband's crime bill, ignoring the root cause of the problem, the racist drug war, he went after poor, disenfranchished kids, dehumanizing them while proving how he thought that black lives didn't matter by increasing said drug wars, as well as taking away their healthcare, welfare, and education.

In other words, the Clinton's impact on humanity has been disastrous and must be stopped and they must be brought to heel, since none of them seem to have an ounce of empathy or self awareness of how disgusting their policies have proven to be

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
20. I'm calling bull butter on this...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

Citizens v. United is what's helping get Hillary elected. Why would she cut off the hand that feeds her?

beastie boy

(9,231 posts)
52. Do you think Bernie is going to end legalized bribery in government?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

He will make nice sounding speeches, for sure. But he has virtually no allies in Congress to get anything done. And he is doing a wonderful job bashing the only potential allies he has left in the Democratic party.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
21. He announced. I was behind him 100%. He could knife a nun in the middle of Times Square
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

and I would still vote for him.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
81. Actually,
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:15 PM
Apr 2016

I've seen stuff on DU almost as bad, which was meant VERY seriously. I don't know you, so I had no idea whether or not your were serious. Hard to tell from the printed word as there's no body language or facial expressions to help. As I said, I hoped you were not. Good to know you weren't.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. A take off on the Frank Sinatra song "New York, New York".....
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

..."If I can make it there I'll make it anywhere, but....if I can't make it there I'll move to Vermont"!

lark

(23,061 posts)
59. Wow, Bernie knocks it out of the park - again.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:14 PM
Apr 2016

He has the best ads, makes me proud to support this wonderful movement.

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