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pnwmom
(108,955 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)New Yorkers are going to send her a message
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)And in the general she got 67%.
New Yorkers loved this "carpet bagger."
dchill
(38,437 posts)Pauldg47
(640 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)because they were too stubborn to register as Democrats.
This primary will be decided by loyal Democrats, and they love Hillary.
Pauldg47
(640 posts)dchill
(38,437 posts)I've been one since 1992. I'm not sure about Hillary.
TrueDemVA
(250 posts)I don't think she has ever been one either. I can proudly say I have never in my life ever shared the same values as a segregation loving republican like say...Goldwater. My beliefs have stayed the same my entire life. I never had to evolve on so many issues that common sense would tell anyone moral person what is right from the start.
This "loyal" democrat is voting for the only Democrat running, Bernie Sanders.
GO BERNIE!!!
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)praised Nancy Reagan or Henry Kissinger, sold my soul for Goldman Sachs money, lied about taking sniper fire in Bosnia or loved war so much that there wasn't one since 1990 I didn't support (Somalia, Bosnia, Libya, Iraq 1 and 2, Afghanistan, etc).
But she is a good Democrat. Party over principles for HRC shills and robots!
bjo59
(1,166 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)In college, on her own, she switched to the Democratic party -- years before she was old enough to vote.
Bernie, OTOH, didn't become a Democrat till sometime last year.
Uncle Joe
(58,282 posts)of high school.
Unless I missed any news updates to the contrary, Kissinger was/is a blood soaked Republican.
has voted with the Dems almost unanimously, except for war and job theft. Democrats that sell out the nation's workers to businesses that buy their political voice by lobbying and bribing are just DINOs and Shillary has long been a Democrat in NAME ONLY. Bernie is the genuine article and has more than proven that except with the high school rahrah squads that back "America's first woman president (NOT)".
We the people, are sick of the coordinated lies that pass for a party these days. Fuck Shillary, I want some real concern and work done for the American people and not for a bunch of greedy donors who don't respect law anymore than their chosen candidate. Bernie Sanders is what a Democratic politician and senator looks like.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Snopes 'TRUE'
While the Civil Rights demonstrations against Goldwater marched, guess which side she was on?
Duval
(4,280 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)HRC fans really do love their wind tunnel logic.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)And she got a 67% in the general.
NYers do like her.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)In the general, she ran against another nobody in John Spencer.
Yes, she trounced nobodies. That's like celebrating a Golden State Warriors, a team with 72 wins, NBA win over the Philadelphia 76ers, a team with nine wins.
WTG, your victories, HRC, proved you can trounced nobodies. Still doesn't prove a damn thing. You HRC shills really have nothing left to claw to. You've sacrificed your Democratic Party principles for a DOMA/DADT supporting, Iraq War supporting, former Wal-Mart BOD member who tried to politically rehabilitate Kissinger and Nancy Reagan while shilling for the big banks and loving Republicans so much was a proud Goldwater girl when Goldwater was fighting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, something Bernie was getting arrested supporting and working for.
I guess selling out is easy when victory is all people care about.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)I think that wind tunnel of the HRC group that has banned almost 900 people for dating to question her highness is better suited for this. You won't have to worry about people debating you, as anyone that dares question Lady Clinton get banned.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)to the Bernie group.
murielm99
(30,715 posts)who joined the Sanders campaign not long ago?
I guess nobodies with no chance in hell have to stick together.
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NJCher
(35,619 posts)Including NYS.
It took time, but people are starting to see the ill effects of their policies.
She's a carpetbagger, yes, and we have better choices, thank Dog.
Cher
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)to choose where she wanted to live -- after leaving her birthplace to go to college in New England, and then to follow a husband to Arkansas and D.C.
She chose N.Y., and became a New Yorker. Just like millions of others have chosen New York.
As opposed to Bernie, who, as an adult, finally had a chance to choose where he wanted to live -- and left his birthplace of New York to transfer to the University of Chicago -- and then chose to move to bucolic Vermont and become a Vermonter.
She's the real New Yorker, not Bernie. He's someone who got out of New York the first chance he had, and stayed out.
P.S. You have a strange definition of carpet bagger, but if Hillary was one, then so was Bernie. They both moved to a new place before getting into politics.
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Sanders who left Brooklyn to run his Liberty Union Party campaigns in Vermont. And speaking of carpetbagging, after bashing the Democratic Party for decades, Sanders joined it so he could take advantage of its apparatus and for the media exposure for his presidential campaign, as he has admitted.
Hillary actually lives in New York. New Yorkers have accepted her as their own; she won her second term as Senator with 67% of the vote. And she has been a Democrat her entire adult life.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Question; who lived in New York more of their life?
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)The Clintons purchased their home in Chappaqua, New York, north of New York City, in September 1999. So they have lived in New York for about the last 17 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
Sanders was born in Brooklyn on September 8, 1941, but left Brooklyn to attend the University of Chicago in 1961. Sanders studied at Brooklyn College for a year in 195960, but his mother died in June 1959 at the age of 46 (father died three years later in 1962, at age 57), so that may explain why he chose to move to Chicago to attend the University of Chicago in 1961, from where he graduated in 1964. He then moved back to New York and became a graduate student at the New School for Social Research, and worked odd jobs for a few years. Sanders abandoned Brooklyn for good in 1968, moving to Vermont, and has lived in Vermont ever since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
So, Sanders was a resident of the state of New York for a total of about 23 years. That is not significantly more than Hillary's 17 years, particularly considering most of Sanders' years in New York were as a child who had no choice but to live there.
As far as years of his adult life that he lived there--when he had control over where he lived--it is much less than Hillary, totaling only about 6 years. He turn 18 in 1959, and lived in Brooklyn for 2 years before moving to Chicago. Then after graduating from University of Chicago in 1964, he came back to New York, where he lived for about 4 more years before moving to Vermont--his residence of choice, as opposed to birth.
Sanders hasn't lived in New York in 48 years, and even then, only 6 of it as an adult. As adults, Hillary chose New York; Sanders abandoned it.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)How long did HRC live in NY before becoming Senator? the latter answer is easy -- until January 2001, Clinton was living in the WH, though she had bought a NY house in September 1999 -- slightly more than a year before winning her Senate race.
Cher
SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)In 1968, Sanders moved to Vermont because he had been "captivated by rural life." After his arrival there he worked as a carpenter, filmmaker, and writer[44] who created and sold "radical film strips" and other educational materials to schools.[45]
Liberty Union campaigns
Sanders began his electoral political career in 1971 as a member of the Liberty Union Party, which originated in the anti-war movement and the People's Party. He ran as the Liberty Union candidate for governor of Vermont in 1972 and 1976 and as a candidate for U.S. senator in 1972 and 1974.[46] In the 1974 senatorial race, Sanders finished third (5,901 votes; 4.1%), behind 33-year-old Chittenden County State's Attorney Patrick Leahy (D, VI; 70,629 votes; 49.4%) and two-term incumbent U.S. Representative Dick Mallary (R; 66,223 votes; 46.3%).[47][48]
The 1976 campaign proved to be the zenith of Liberty Union's influence, with Sanders collecting 11,000 votes for governor and the party. This forced the races for lieutenant governor and secretary of state to be decided by the state legislature when its vote total prevented either the Republican or Democratic candidates for those offices from garnering a majority of votes.[49] The campaign drained the finances and energy of the Liberty Union, however, and in October 1977less than a year after the conclusion of the 1976 campaignSanders and the Liberty Union candidate for attorney general, Nancy Kaufman, announced their retirement from the party.[50]
Following his resignation from Liberty Union, Sanders worked as a writer and the director of the nonprofit American People's Historical Society (APHS).[51] While with the APHS, he made a 30-minute documentary about American Socialist leader and presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs.[32][52]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
He then finally gave up and rebranded himself an "Independent." That is how he ran when he got the mayor job in 1980.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Post. Thanks for making it easy to find. What's up next, Hillary has been Jewish for decades longer than Bernie?
Duval
(4,280 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)Are these quotes new to you?
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)She is part of the problem. The root cause of America's problems.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)new Justices to the Supreme Court who would rule differently on a case like Citizens v. United.
Bernie doesn't have any magic wand -- and he's not even doing anything to get more Dems elected to Congress.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)He is having record turnouts especially by the young. And so he'll also have much longer coat-tails than Hillary. It would be neat tho to have a woman as president. It would inspire billions of women across the globe that they can be much more than just baby making machines.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)And they are all critical parts of the Democratic constituency.
Thank you for acknowledging that having a woman President would be a significant thing. It would mean as much to millions of women and girls as Obama's election has meant to African Americans.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)completely behind Bernie for that. . .but I'm behind him because he, as Dick Van Dyke said and I have always said, is a real New Deal Democrat and we need another FDR.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)THe US and world would be much better off with more women in office. In most countries women are seen as little more than baby making machines. Just think of the impact it might possibly have on Muslim countries.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Can we pick a woman prez for more than her 2 X chromosomes please?
"Just think of the impact it might possibly have on Muslim countries." I think Hillary's had enough impact on Muslim countries.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)on Muslim countries as her husband's crime bill, ignoring the root cause of the problem, the racist drug war, he went after poor, disenfranchished kids, dehumanizing them while proving how he thought that black lives didn't matter by increasing said drug wars, as well as taking away their healthcare, welfare, and education.
In other words, the Clinton's impact on humanity has been disastrous and must be stopped and they must be brought to heel, since none of them seem to have an ounce of empathy or self awareness of how disgusting their policies have proven to be
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)Citizens v. United is what's helping get Hillary elected. Why would she cut off the hand that feeds her?
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)beastie boy
(9,231 posts)He will make nice sounding speeches, for sure. But he has virtually no allies in Congress to get anything done. And he is doing a wonderful job bashing the only potential allies he has left in the Democratic party.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh the irony!
gordyfl
(598 posts)Or at least our best chance.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,282 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Let's get this thing done!
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)and I would still vote for him.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I HOPE you're kidding. Jeez.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I've seen stuff on DU almost as bad, which was meant VERY seriously. I don't know you, so I had no idea whether or not your were serious. Hard to tell from the printed word as there's no body language or facial expressions to help. As I said, I hoped you were not. Good to know you weren't.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)dchill
(38,437 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)love me some bernie & jane
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)msongs
(67,351 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,730 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)..."If I can make it there I'll make it anywhere, but....if I can't make it there I'll move to Vermont"!
DinahMoeHum
(21,774 posts)lark
(23,061 posts)He has the best ads, makes me proud to support this wonderful movement.
classykaren
(769 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Jerrymooney
(36 posts)I wish I could vote harder!