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"Almost" Persuaded (Original Post) Uncle Joe Apr 2016 OP
Hillary Clinton "Almost" Persuaded me to vote for her GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1
Bill "almost" apologized but couldn't quite get there. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #2
Bill Clinton finished up the Reagan revolution by doing the things Reagan couldn't do. ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #3
yep - that is why many have said that he was the best republican president since ... SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #21
you are right, so left! ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #28
Thanks So Much For This "Uncle Joe!" This Country Is So UN-INFORMED... ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #12
John Lewis said that, eh? Ino Apr 2016 #23
Perhaps John got put on "Hillary's hit list" after 2008? Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #25
Oh, for sure he was... Ino Apr 2016 #27
I don't know about back in the day, but this election Hillary has locked up political endorsements Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #30
No. Not John Lewis. The guy who said he never saw Sanders during the civil rights fight, but he did PatV Apr 2016 #29
...... daleanime Apr 2016 #4
I want to hear a lot more from Michelle passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #5
I hope so as well, passiveporcupine. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #6
Where Can I Check It Out? Haven't Seen Anything... n/t ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #10
I'd just google her passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #15
Thanks A Lot! n/t ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #17
michele alexander was on democracy now earlier this past week. hopemountain Apr 2016 #31
So he didn't nail a drunk gal in a bar Warpy Apr 2016 #7
This is an old song. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #8
VERY OLD! Guess Some Missed It! I Lived In TX And Was ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #9
Yes it came out in 1966 just a few short years after Hillary had become a "Goldwater Girl" a Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #11
Thanks For The Info... But It Seems She Really ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #13
To this I defer to Alphonse Karr. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #14
Checking This Out Right Now... WOW! ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #19
That's What My Mother-In-Law Always Called... ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #16
Creedence Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #18
WELL, Kind Of Foreboding... ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #20
I've never really been a fan of country music, but I kind of liked that! polly7 Apr 2016 #22
"I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison" you can't top that line Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #24
LOL polly7 Apr 2016 #26

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
2. Bill "almost" apologized but couldn't quite get there.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016


Bill Clinton says that he “almost” wants to apologize for his remarkable episode yesterday — you know, when he embraced long-debunked, racially coded "super-predator" rhetoric, compared Black Lives Matter protestors to Republicans and insisted that they support murderers, and blamed his crime bill on black politicians. Personally, I am not demanding an apology from Bill Clinton. Instead, I would like to say thank you. Thank you, Bill, for giving the nation a ten-minute tutorial on everything that was wrong (and apparently remains wrong) with the “New Democrats” and their approach to racial politics.

Unfortunately much of the mainstream media seems to be buying (yet again) much of what Bill was selling yesterday. So to recap what should be obvious by now: Black politicians and activists were not asking for "get tough" measures and nothing else back in the 1990s. Some black politicians opposed the Clinton crime bill, and those who supported it weren’t seeking punishment and nothing more; they desperately wanted massive investment in jobs and schools so the young people trapped in communities where work had suddenly disappeared would have some hope of survival. It is a gross distortion to suggest that black people wanted billions of dollars slashed from child welfare, housing and other public benefits in order to fund an unprecedented prison building boom. It was Bill Clinton's deliberate political strategy -- one he championed along with the "New Democrats" -- to appeal to white swing voters by being tougher on struggling black communities than the Republicans had been, ramping up the drug war and gutting welfare. That strategy of "getting tough" while at the same time eviscerating the federal social safety net was NOT supported by many of the black politicians he seeks to use as cover. Rep. John Lewis (who Clinton referred to yesterday as the "last remaining hero of the civil rights movement&quot fiercely opposed welfare reform, accurately predicting that it would thrust more than a million more kids into severe poverty.

John Lewis said back then: “How can any person of faith, of conscience, vote for a bill that puts a million more kids into poverty? What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul?”

The young people challenging Bill Clinton yesterday were asking these very same questions. You may not agree with their tactics, but they were, in their own way, fighting for the soul of the Democratic party and American democracy itself. Whether our nation can be redeemed in the long run remains to be seen.


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ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
3. Bill Clinton finished up the Reagan revolution by doing the things Reagan couldn't do.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:46 PM
Apr 2016

sort of like Nixon going to China. If a dem did that the repubs would have jumped all over him.
same thing with Bill, sold out the American public to the private prisons and greed miesters, if a repub pres had done
it, the dems would have been all over him. like the godfaher said to Michael, they will come at you through someone
you trust. there's a special place in hell for people like this. (I wish)

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
21. yep - that is why many have said that he was the best republican president since ...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:19 PM
Apr 2016

and she will finish us off

that is not to say that she will not tell us of her social liberal candy - but that is just for the suckers

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
12. Thanks So Much For This "Uncle Joe!" This Country Is So UN-INFORMED...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:50 PM
Apr 2016

and it will be our DOWN FALL! There's too much pent up anxiety and ANGER! They're playing with more than fire, feels more like a volcano ready to erupt!

HOW can our so called LEADERS stand by and watch this?? TOO MANY OF THEM know ALL about the Clintons and HOW THEY PLAY THE GAME!

The fact that THEY are willing to watch what may happen speaks volumes about WHO THEY ARE and how little they value this country! I've made up my mind about what I'll do if she's the nominee, along with the rest of my family, but it's really criminal that so many of us have been pushed to these limits.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
23. John Lewis said that, eh?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

Gee, he almost persuaded me that he was a man of conscience... then I remembered that he backs Hillary and cast aspersions on a real man of integrity.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
27. Oh, for sure he was...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

but he kinda got a pass because of Obama...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/hillary-clinton-hit-list-102067?o=0

Many of the other names on the traitor side of the ledger were easy to remember, from Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) to Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the civil rights icon whose defection had been so painful that Bill Clinton seemed to be in a state of denial about it. In private conversations, Bill tried to explain away Lewis’s motivations for switching teams mid-campaign, after Obama began ratcheting up pressure on black lawmakers to get on “the right side of history.” Lewis, because of his own place in American history and the unique loyalty test he faced with the first viable black candidate running for president, is a perfect example of why Clinton aides had to keep track of more detailed information than the simple binary of “for” and “against.” Perhaps someday Lewis’s betrayal could be forgiven.


Others on the hit list were not given a pass, and I gotta wonder what they were promised, or how they were threatened, this time around...
Hate is too weak a word to describe the feelings that Hillary’s core loyalists still have for McCaskill, who seemed to deliver a fresh endorsement of Obama—and a caustic jab at Hillary—every day during the long primary season.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
30. I don't know about back in the day, but this election Hillary has locked up political endorsements
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

by hooking them up with her Donors, just like she did for Tweety's wife. If they all weren't above the law an investigation would reveal all of the quid pro quo's occurring. It's this type of crap that Bernie and his supporters are trying to stop!

They have been so transparent about it because they have nothing to fear. If we survive Climate Change, history will look back on this era of American politics and shake their heads.

Since the MSM only spews propaganda and election tit for tat, and too many Americans are either too busy working 2-3 jobs, or too uneducated by failing public schools, we have to be the means for them to learn what has happened in our country. We need to explain to them the real reasons they are struggling, how the MSM propaganda works, and how we need to help Bernie pressure our government to do what is in all of our interests.

It can be done one person at a time. I know, I have been doing it for years to explain the benefits of Publicly Funded Elections and why we need them. That is my starting point and it is the easiest part because everyone agrees that our government is corrupt. Even Republicans will listen because I tell them that the Democrats are just as bad. Using Hillary as my example (since they are unanimous in their hatred of her) I explain how we have lost our Representative Democracy to big Donors.

I explain how they control appointments, legislation, who we have to choose from for every elected position, including judges. If I am talking to a Republican I explain how it can affect their 2nd Amendment rights and the wasting of our tax dollars. If it's a Democrat I usually explain how it has cost them their ability to sue and recover if a big corporation has harmed them, or caused the deterioration of public education... Just try to figure out their hot button issues and you can easily show how it has negatively affected them!

This is what it will take to win this political revolution, educating them on why it is so important and necessary.

 

PatV

(71 posts)
29. No. Not John Lewis. The guy who said he never saw Sanders during the civil rights fight, but he did
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:25 PM
Apr 2016

see his good friends, Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Wonder how he feels today?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
5. I want to hear a lot more from Michelle
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

I'm glad she's getting her message out on facebook. I wonder if Hillary supporters are reading it. Maybe those who are not quite sold are.

Thanks for posting this Joe!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
15. I'd just google her
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

Michelle Alexander.

A few things have been posted here, but I'm sure you can find a lot more with a search.

Warpy

(111,170 posts)
7. So he didn't nail a drunk gal in a bar
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:29 PM
Apr 2016

and now he wants a medal? Country music sure hasn't changed since I left the country.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
9. VERY OLD! Guess Some Missed It! I Lived In TX And Was
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

in school when it came out, I think. Not into "country music" myself, but living in TX... well it was TEXAS.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
11. Yes it came out in 1966 just a few short years after Hillary had become a "Goldwater Girl" a
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

a lot has changed with country music since then





and Hillary for a long time hasn't been a "Goldwater Girl" today she is just an admirer of Henry Kissinger.



ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
13. Thanks For The Info... But It Seems She Really
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:54 PM
Apr 2016

hasn't gone too far away from the teachings! Amazing!

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
16. That's What My Mother-In-Law Always Called...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:12 PM
Apr 2016

HONKY-TONK music! Through some sand on a wooden floor, drinks lots of beer and slide right along. I DID dance to some of this myself... kind of "getting in the mood" music, heh!

Heard a little of George Jones in there too! First heard of Charlie Pride (the first black country/western singer) when I was in high school.

I was an Army brat & my father was stationed at Ft. Hood, the county was "dry" but there was always a place the guys found some beer. Brings back memories, but that dancing did put the Ram in the Ram A Lang Ding Dong!

How times have changed. Then THE WAR began for "My Generation!"

We seem to be on the Eve of another REVOLUTION and even though I would have preferred it be Cumbya, it may be just the alternative. Americans have fought since the beginning of it's founding, looks like Bad Moon A'Risin. Not sure if I got that right! I loved that song, was it Creedence Clearwater? Can't remember the famous singer right now... but he was a character.

I could go on, but need to check out some info here. Thanks for the memories!

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