Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:58 PM
Fire Walk With Me (37,086 posts)
If You See Something, Film Something (Recording The Police is Dangerous, But Necessary)
Right-click on the video for plenty of similar links on the homepage.
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12 replies, 1844 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Fire Walk With Me | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| 1monster | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| PotatoChip | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| RKP5637 | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| Ikonoklast | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| Scootaloo | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| Fire Walk With Me | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| Scootaloo | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| Fire Walk With Me | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| Scootaloo | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| Fire Walk With Me | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| wakeoftheflood | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Jun 2012 | #7 |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 07:19 PM
1monster (8,738 posts)
1. Every time I see something like this, I feel sick. Because
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I know that bad as things are, they will get much worse before they get better, if they ever get better.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 07:21 PM
PotatoChip (1,529 posts)
2. That was difficult to watch
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but provides an important message.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 07:55 PM
RKP5637 (25,623 posts)
3. Excellent video and message!!! Now the US is like any other police state. Give it a
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few more years and this will seem tame if it stays the course.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:35 PM
Ikonoklast (21,639 posts)
4. "It's only a few 'bad apples'."
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Yeah, only a few.
Right. The few who are becoming the many. The few emboldened by the many who look the other way; after all in the end it's Us against Them. I learned at a very young age that the police will do to you whatever they feel like doing to you, legal or not, if they think that they can get away with it...and I haven't trusted one ever since. Even the ones that I'm related to. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:38 PM
Scootaloo (5,888 posts)
5. The first clip in the video seems justified to me
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Guy comes after a cop with a weapon, gets shot. That's pretty much cut-and-dried.
The rest though... Like the three in the title image? Need to be treated just like a rabid animal. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #5)
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:41 PM
Fire Walk With Me (37,086 posts)
8. He didn't come after a cop, he was nuts enough to wander around in a daze with a weapon.
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Which should have told them immediately that he was nuts, and not to shoot shoot shoot. A few cops could have taken him down with their bodies. They are public servants, not executioners.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:18 PM
Scootaloo (5,888 posts)
9. No, he's pretty clearly starting to swing at the officer nearest him when they open fire
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I'm iffy on whether ten shots were needed, but to be truly honest, if somebody's going to slug at me with a pipe-bender (which is apparently what that was) I'm going to defend myself with what I have at hand, and I can't begrudge even a cop for doing the same. It's a very different situation from tazing a struggling child "for self-defense."
Perhaps other methods would have been effective (though their tazer wasn't, I guess both prongs didn't hit skin) and perhaps police should be trained to defuse and deflect, rather than to respond to violence with violence. That's a fair argument; other police forces in the world seem able to do this. But considering the situation, I'm not able to point my finger of blame too hard at this one. Stress on this one. The rest of what's depicted is pretty obviously a case of needing Atticus Finch and his winchester on the scene. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #9)
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:22 PM
Fire Walk With Me (37,086 posts)
10. I fully agree that it was a big weapon, and that so many shots were not needed
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but I'm not sure if I see him beginning to swing on a cop. I'll have to (try to) watch it again
Thanks. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #10)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 06:00 AM
Scootaloo (5,888 posts)
11. Watch the original video
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it's included in one of the links from the one in this thread.
Also, prepare yourself for wanting to head-butt the filmers, who seem to think a dude turning into a gaping chest wound with arms is fucking hilarious. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #11)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 06:04 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,086 posts)
12. Oh dear Lord, I can't...
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:07 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
7. Nothing worse than a bad cop
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They're worse than the common criminals because we put our faith and trust in them and they're the first and last line of defense of civilized society.
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