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Pic Of The Moment: Have You Noticed...? (Original Post) EarlG Aug 2015 OP
As well as everything they would change would reduce benefits/rights for randys1 Aug 2015 #1
They also want to repeal the 14th Amendment which grants birthright citizenship. world wide wally Aug 2015 #2
they also want to repeal the 19th amendment. niyad Aug 2015 #13
The people on the right who -like Pavlov's dog salivate packman Aug 2015 #3
And Donald Trump says the 14th Amendment won't stand up in court. WTF? Scuba Aug 2015 #4
All the rage in the RW bubble underpants Aug 2015 #6
OMG! The Constitution is unconstitutional!! Scuba Aug 2015 #8
Appropos of nothing, have you heard Greta trying to say "candidate?" What the hell? merrily Aug 2015 #20
I'm just saying that they are convincing themselves underpants Aug 2015 #22
His legal team stopped investigating this issue after Dred Scott. BruceStern Aug 2015 #15
Combine some of them to see the lunacy.. Thor_MN Aug 2015 #33
I heard they also want to amend the 2nd underpants Aug 2015 #5
If they put the 14th on the chopping block, it ought to be open season on the 2nd. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #10
I think I might've heard what you heard Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2015 #11
They are going to work that out in their Constitutionsl Convention underpants Aug 2015 #23
"What parts of the US constitution do you hate most?" DetlefK Aug 2015 #7
They'd likely add an amendment to marginalize the role of SCOTUS... radhika Aug 2015 #9
jeb!'s magic wand??? ackkkkkkkk, mind bleach, quick!!!! niyad Aug 2015 #12
Let's hope awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #34
All of them would probably favor dumping the Constitution yuiyoshida Aug 2015 #14
Why not? When we were in total control of Iraq, we allowed the new Constitution merrily Aug 2015 #21
To be fair ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #16
Too bad I posted before reading the thread. I could have just posted +1 to this. merrily Aug 2015 #19
This is what I keep saying... louis-t Aug 2015 #17
Which is everything but the 2nd Amendment d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #24
The Constitution does provide for amendments to the Constitution. merrily Aug 2015 #18
What a hoot. thanks oldandhappy Aug 2015 #25
Talk about bifurcated reasoning! On one hand, they whine about what the "founders intended," and on MADem Aug 2015 #26
Our forefathers surely never expected what their Republican asjr Aug 2015 #27
Events got in our way, unfortunately. MADem Aug 2015 #31
Hope and change... czarjak Aug 2015 #28
The fact they mock the concepts of "Hope and change..." 63splitwindow Aug 2015 #29
In short: whatever the Koch Bros. tell us should be in the Constitution Fritz Walter Aug 2015 #30
Haha I actually used this in an argument with a repug last week. nt ion_theory Aug 2015 #32
how does this nonsense rebuild our roads , bridges and other things ? allan01 Aug 2015 #35
The GOP talk about protecting "life" and are warmongers and won't valerief Aug 2015 #36
I was listening to Norman Goldman's radio show on the way home from... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #37
Apparently they have a diaper fetish and have mistaken the Constitution to be just full of shit. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #38

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. As well as everything they would change would reduce benefits/rights for
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

non white christian male millionaires.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
2. They also want to repeal the 14th Amendment which grants birthright citizenship.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

Last election cycle, they wanted to repeal the 17th Amendment which allows for citizens to vote for Senators instead of having them appointed by State Legislators.

But they sure cling to that 2nd Amendment like it was written by God

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. The people on the right who -like Pavlov's dog salivate
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:35 AM
Aug 2015

at the ringing of that constitutional bell, have little or no idea of how torturous, complex and time-consuming it is to change the Constitution. They believe that their man can come in and "WHAMO-BANG" wave their penis wands and it will be done. Idiots.

underpants

(182,717 posts)
6. All the rage in the RW bubble
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:40 AM
Aug 2015

Apparently Laura Ingraham was trumpeting this to Greta Vanwhatever

underpants

(182,717 posts)
22. I'm just saying that they are convincing themselves
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015

and will suck up 10-20% of news talk with the "well you know, some people say...." BS

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
33. Combine some of them to see the lunacy..
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 07:14 PM
Aug 2015

Trump thinks he cane get rid of the 14th and deport all non-citizens. Huckabee and Paul want to extend the 14th to fertilized eggs. Cruz may have some issues about his Canadian birth.

Cruz's issue raises the question of "Natural Born Citizen". Regardless of one's opinion, a fertilized egg has not been born, therefore can not be a natural born citizen, so does the 14th amendment apply to them? And since they are not citizens, Trump wants to deport them.

If one must be a citizen for the constitution to apply, how can a corporation have 1st amendment rights?

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
11. I think I might've heard what you heard
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:06 PM
Aug 2015

Only to me it sounded like they wanted to add YEEEeeeeeeeeeeeHAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaw

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. "What parts of the US constitution do you hate most?"
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

Would it be unfair to ask them that question?

radhika

(1,008 posts)
9. They'd likely add an amendment to marginalize the role of SCOTUS...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:03 PM
Aug 2015

Essentially, they'd want to a new one that nullifies Marbury v Madison. That case ruled that SCOTUS is the supreme law of the land. The'dy want to use any future legislative majorities to impose whatever policies they pass without judicial review.

They'd also want to affirm in an amendment what they and their funders most believe: Corporations are indeed people.

Both of these are necessary to set Plutocracy in stone.

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
14. All of them would probably favor dumping the Constitution
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

in favor of making their own Republican party version, complete with crayons and copies of the bible.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. Why not? When we were in total control of Iraq, we allowed the new Constitution
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

to incorporate all of Islamic law by reference--and there is not even one source of definitive Islamic law--IOW, no equivalent of, say, the Pope, who is a final authority on what is Catholic and what isn't.

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
16. To be fair
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:41 PM
Aug 2015

amendments are exactly how the constitution is supposed to be changed and the process is spelled out in detail. The framers obviously expected future generations to make changes and gave us a way of doing that democratically. I don't think following the rules to amend the constitution is disrespecting it or failing to defend it. It's how the process is supposed to work. Ignoring what is written now or trying to make changes improperly (like extreme judicial interpretations) is another matter.

I don't agree with any of the amendments suggested in the OP of course, but I don't fault them for the idea of changes generally. I can think of a couple I'd consider making too (ERA comes to mind).

louis-t

(23,284 posts)
17. This is what I keep saying...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:47 PM
Aug 2015

Republicans LOVE the Constitution, except for the parts they want to change.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. The Constitution does provide for amendments to the Constitution.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

Ignoring the Constitution is a problem. Amending is very difficult, but, if successful, not a problem.

We would like amendments as well; and I don't see a thing wrong with talking a lot about the Constitution. IMO, we don't do that enough.

However, the amendments they want are a problem.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Talk about bifurcated reasoning! On one hand, they whine about what the "founders intended," and on
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:08 PM
Aug 2015

the other, they have no respect for what's written in the document! It's hilarious!

asjr

(10,479 posts)
27. Our forefathers surely never expected what their Republican
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:32 PM
Aug 2015

fellows would want to do in the 21st century. I am still amazed at the crazy acts now.
I wish we had acted quickly after the theft in year 2000.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. Events got in our way, unfortunately.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:04 PM
Aug 2015

And Al Gore should have stood his ground--he was damned if he did/damned if he didn't.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
29. The fact they mock the concepts of "Hope and change..."
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:16 PM
Aug 2015

speaks volumes about their total lack of REAL character, but then everything else they say and do does likewise.
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Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
30. In short: whatever the Koch Bros. tell us should be in the Constitution
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:49 PM
Aug 2015

What a bunch of whores!

And shameless ones at that.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
36. The GOP talk about protecting "life" and are warmongers and won't
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:10 PM
Aug 2015

give food/shelter to the needy. The GOP talk about the deficit and spend the most. The GOP talk about the "sanctity" of marriage and have no problems with multiple divorces. They're the Reverso party. Everything they say is the reverse of what they do.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
37. I was listening to Norman Goldman's radio show on the way home from...
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:10 AM
Aug 2015

...today, and he re-iterated his rationale for why an embryo cannot/should not be granted the same rights as someone who has already been born. He explains it thusly:

An embryo can be frozen, thawed later and implanted into a woman's uterus and healthy baby may result.

Can you freeze a 1 minute old newborn and thaw it out later and have a healthy baby? No.

A caller had a similar scenario. You are in a lab with a living 6 year old child, and a box of 20 frozen embryos. A fire breaks out in the lab, and you can save only the child or the box of frozen embryos - not both. Which do you save as you go running out of the flame-engulfed lab?

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