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KT2000

(20,572 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:41 PM Jul 2015

The Lie We Live

Last edited Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Amazing video from a young person about our future. Sometimes I think some of us in the older generation forget that there are brilliant young people looking at the big picture. The isolation of technology is something we must guard against.

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The Lie We Live (Original Post) KT2000 Jul 2015 OP
K&R Moral Compass Jul 2015 #1
Well worth the 9 minutes burrowowl Jul 2015 #2
I will watch that - KT2000 Jul 2015 #3
We MUST have each others' backs... n/t chervilant Jul 2015 #4
"They give us money, and in return we give them the world." cprise Jul 2015 #5
Whaow...you mentioned the elite with the power...that is the key to why we live the way we do...only drynberg Jul 2015 #6
I agree. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #8
Thank you, KT2000. I'm glad I watched that. nt Enthusiast Jul 2015 #7
Mankind is a plague on the earth. IHateTheGOP Jul 2015 #9
Naw, humankind is a product of Nature. Peace Patriot Jul 2015 #11
Absolutely Excellent!!! panfluteman Jul 2015 #10
As you say - "back in the day" KT2000 Jul 2015 #12
Write your own script fasttense Jul 2015 #13
when you are able to live KT2000 Jul 2015 #14
This IS the message we should be spreading 2naSalit Jul 2015 #15

burrowowl

(17,638 posts)
2. Well worth the 9 minutes
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jul 2015

as well as the video done by a 7 year-old scientist of a simulated drift of an oil spill on the Salish Sea.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
5. "They give us money, and in return we give them the world."
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jul 2015

Interesting point of view. But I think its more accurate to say that money has a value based on mass psychology.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
6. Whaow...you mentioned the elite with the power...that is the key to why we live the way we do...only
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jul 2015

The Elite can somehow alter their control of us...and every minute of every day we are more controlled in this Nation called America. Democracy was always weak here, but now it's hollow without substance. The rich are calling all the shots...so to raise hopes of changing this let alone denying this is absurd. I believe we can only find a very separate peace and live our lives as close to the way we think our lives should be lived. Perhaps I'm totally wrong, and I'd love to see how what I've said isn't true...I'll be watching...

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
11. Naw, humankind is a product of Nature.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 02:23 AM
Jul 2015

Our consciousness, including our sense of good and evil, and also our wonder at ourselves, and our wonder at the Universe, and our ability to contemplate things outside of ourselves and outside of our immediate bodily needs and desires, are all the result of Nature, and, specifically, of the Earth, where we have evolved and our only home (so far).

Our destructiveness is a part of Nature, and our ability to perceive our destructiveness is part of Nature, as is our ability to evolve, to grow, to increase our consciousness.

It is much too easy to say things like, "Mankind is a plague on the earth." Humankind is OF the earth. Nature has given us the chance to see ourselves. We should not throw that chance away, in statements or acts of despair. Instead, do what we do best: collaborate.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
10. Absolutely Excellent!!!
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 02:08 AM
Jul 2015

The beginning of this video was so depressing, and everything about human civilization was being deconstructed so fast that by about two minutes into this video, I seriously wondered if there would be enough left to deconstruct for the full eight minute length. But then, lo and behold! The dark clouds parted, and a magnificent Sun rose as the tone of the video changed radically from gloomy and negative to sunny and positive - to hope and change - and not just the fake hope and change that has been sold to us in recent years.

For those of us who are oldsters and baby boomers, or even those of us who were full-blown hippies who wanted to change the world back in the day, we have to work hard to remind ourselves of these stark existential truths and challenges spoken of in this video. But for the millennials, these truths and challenges are inescapable realities that they must confront, and challenges that they must solve if the human race is to continue on this planet. We of the older generation will fade off into the sunset before too long, but for the millennials, there is no escape; it's do or die!

We must all confront the corporate oligarchs and plutocrats who are in charge of the systematic wealth extraction (modern version of raping and pillaging) that is sucking all the life out of our planet, like vampires. Indeed, after all the wealth has been extracted, we will discover, as the maker of this video pointed out, and as the Native American elders have so wisely told us, that money can't be eaten. Truly, the days are numbered for capitalism and the god of gold.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
12. As you say - "back in the day"
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 04:09 AM
Jul 2015

it seemed like so much was possible and part of that was that we were part of something bigger than ourselves and we were working together. That is what I hope the younger people will grasp.

This video has been out for a few months but I got it from a person in China where it has been translated into Chinese. There the people who were raised in Communist ideals are grappling with the contradictions between the greater good and what is good for me (capitalistic ideals). Not everyone there is jumping into the money trap and they know where it will take them.

This must be a worldwide effort.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
13. Write your own script
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jul 2015

Don't let your friends and society define your path.

I've kind of given up the world and feel kind of guilty because others haven't found their passion. I've taken up farming a small plot of land. The only time I see people beside my husband is when we go to market to sell our produce. But I see so much of nature it is almost surreal. Yesterday I petted a wild white tail deer. He came out of the fog to graze with our sheep. He ate some grain and let me pet him.The day before there were so many Martins on our phone lines that it looked like a scene out of a Hitchcock movie. Then there were the swarms of gold and brown butterflies that visited last fall and the lichen everywhere. Our sheep, chickens and dogs never get fleas, ticks or other parasites and we never spray them. We have been farming organically for 15 years and already there is a noticable difference in the soil, air and wildlife. It is recoverying so quickly from the chemical farmer before us.

I use to be caught up in the rat race. Then the crash hit and I reaetlized all I really had was this land. I've saved one corner of this planet and I feel like I've been rewarded. I have never been happier. I wish I had not wasted so much of my life chasing the dollar.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
14. when you are able to live
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jul 2015

among natural things, you realize you are part of it. I moved to a rural area years ago and started watching the wildlife. Saw amazing things. When people visited from the city they couldn't believe I was able to see the well disguised animals around us that they totally missed.
There is comfort and peace in being part of this - even when nature is not kind.

2naSalit

(86,534 posts)
15. This IS the message we should be spreading
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jul 2015

all over the planet. I am getting old but this is the message I have been trying to share with little to no success. I hope that sometime soon, it will be the rallying cry for our species. As William S. Burroughs once said, "Humans are the only species who knowingly and willing poison their own bodies..."




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