Black man vs a White man carrying an AR-15

[zebonaut]

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[Fast Walker 52]

1. stunning experiment, and so very disturbing

would like to see more than these two incidents though, just to get some level of accurate polling on these two outcomes. But it's obvious that the police treat blacks very different than whites.

[brewens]

3. Yeah. It would be better if the experiment had a little better control, but the treatment

is not just a little bit different. The black dude was lucky he didn't get killed.

I'm not a big fan of people walking around with weapons like that. We just had "active shooter" training which I feel was largely a joke. But it came from our safety officer and the people on our safety committee and it's about what you come to expect from them.

One thing I would do if I saw someone coming up the street packing a weapon like that is immediately lock the doors and call 911. We have a sign saying no firearms allowed on the glass by the door but I wouldn't even give the guy a chance to notice it, he's not getting in with his AR.

[Fast Walker 52]

4. Yes it is a dangerous test and I can see why they wouldn't want to do it again

I would call the cops on anyone I saw walking around with a gun like that.

We had a report of someone with a long gun where I work, and they shut everything down. Then I saw cops walking around with semi-automatic rifles-- a disturbing sight in itself. But there were no shots fired and no one hurt, thankfully.

[Enthusiast]

2. There it is, in black and white. (no pun intended)

There is no denying it.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

5. I'd be outraged but I think I have outrage fatigue.

There needs to be something we can do other than be outraged, but I'm not sure anymore what that is.

[packman]

6. Posted several days ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026676609

[treestar]

7. Makes you wonder what type of society these open carry supporters want

Naturally the black guy got treated as more of a threat.

But I've heard people say they should be able to carry a gun like that simply because it is their right to. But wtf would they need it for? Do they really want to live in a society where they and every one else are carrying these things around?

[Noah331]

8. Dangerous social experiment

This young man and his wife are in grave danger during this police action. This video should go viral as a testament to racial divide in our country.

[Hoppy]

9. Was the "social experiment" conducted in the same city?

[Enrique]

17. everyone should be asking this

and similar questions.

We all know the point being made, and we mostly agree with it, but that doesn't mean we accept everything that is presented to us without questioning it. In this case there are about million questions.

[AtheistCrusader]

26. Open Carry laws are state-wide and in this case, pre-emptive of city/municipality laws.

So, shouldn't be a factor, and still troubling if it is.

[Hoppy]

27. I disagree.

A white guy carrying in rural Oregon is gonna get a different response than a black in a poor, urban area. Or a black in the rural area of the same state vs. white guy in suburbia.

The specific location does matter.

[AtheistCrusader]

28. It does not. The Police are supposed to know the law.

In this case, the law does not vary or allow for subjective interpretation.

That said, the officer that made the stop on the white guy looked pretty municipal to me.

[Hoppy]

29. But then you are missing the point of the "experiment."

[AtheistCrusader]

30. I am? Do tell.

[Hoppy]

10. I believe assholes carrying weapons in populated areas should have the shit harrassed out of them.

[undeterred]

16. + a brazillion

Neither of these men had a reason to display that weapon except to look for trouble. Our laws are a disaster for the police and for citizens.

[MH1]

18. Agree, but the harassment should be equal regardless of race. nt

[Hoppy]

11. Interesting that California had permissive open carry laws.

That was until the Black Panthers started carrying shotguns and following cops around.

It was soon after that St. Ronnie of Raygun signed legislation to restrict open carry.

[rock]

12. Collecting these data points is extremely dangerous

Especially if you're black.

[Helen Borg]

13. Wondering who's getting his iPhone...

[haydukelives]

14. and they wonder

why we call them pigs.

[Kablooie]

15. Are there any black or Muslim members of the NRA?

[BaldHippie]

19. Position of Gun is DIFFEERENT

A scientific experiment requires multiple testing of scenarios with the only difference being the "independent variable". In this case the race of the gun holder.

The POSITION of the gun is vital in this video.

The white gun holder had it diagonally across his back in a TRANSPORTATION MODE!
The black gun holder had it hanging on his side in a more ready access position.

GO BACK AND DO IT OVER WITH THE GUN IN THE SAME POSITION IN THE SAME LOCALITY!

How many times were these separate scenarios tested?

Also were there two white gunman or one? There was only one black gun man.

How many times did they stage these encounters? Where the results always the same or the editing?

Where all the encounters the same? Did they try this multiple times in the SAME city section?

I am sure there could be differences but this video does NOT convince me. Is this an article of faith I as a Progressive must believe in. Do the video over.

With one gun holder in each of the salt and pepper scenarios.
Gun in the same position across the BACK diagonally.
Do the salt and pepper scenarios over multiple times. Not onece then report the stats back please!

[heaven05]

23. "different gun position" ????????????

true, yet please respect the fact that people out here know what this situation/experiment truly represents about racist amerikkkan culture. I don't give a damn if they did it many times over in many different scenarios, the results would be the same. geez Some people find it hard to admit that "racism is as amerikan as apple pie".

[AtheistCrusader]

25. Neither person is carrying at low ready. Both were fully legal, and not brandishing.

The difference in position is cosmetic, and in no way warrants an armed response.

I am fully convinced race was the differentiating factor.

[progressoid]

20. Just saw this on Facebook too.

[blackspade]

21. An extremely dangerous experiment.

But the response is disturbing on multiple levels.
The lack of training is evident in the overall response.

[heaven05]

22. proves every person right

that says there are two systems of justice, one for the POC, another for any white person. But then I knew this type of situation to be true no matter where you live in this country. Seen too many open carry whites keep walking past the police and then there's this scenario. I'm glad he's still alive.

[heaven05]

24. one black man with a gun

cops coming out the woodwork. Nothing surprising, shocking, just MORE confirmation of two types of 'justice' and two levels of 'threat' perceived by these officer(s). I just can't get over how many showed up for this man of color with a gun 'threat' vs white man with gun. It is truly an example of what type of threat a POC with legal open carry rights represents to white society vs a white man with open carry rights. The white guy said no when asked for ID, cop backed off. Just laid the "black threat' out in the streets. This is glaringly obvious in it's example. As a social experiment I do agree with the 'experiment' to prove what everyone, with any sense knows. Open carry, I do not agree with. Just a personal thing.

Just disgusting in it's open racism.