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Thu May 3, 2012, 12:38 PM

The Last Word - Does NC pastor know how 'sick' he sounds?

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Reply The Last Word - Does NC pastor know how 'sick' he sounds? (Original post)
Galraedia May 2012 OP
democrat_patriot May 2012 #1
young_at_heart May 2012 #2
WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #3
Enrique May 2012 #7
crunch60 May 2012 #12
WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #15
crunch60 May 2012 #18
greiner3 May 2012 #13
WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #16
craigmatic May 2012 #4
Justice wanted May 2012 #5
usrname May 2012 #6
DianaForRussFeingold May 2012 #8
crunch60 May 2012 #9
DianaForRussFeingold May 2012 #10
DemzRock May 2012 #11
cbrer May 2012 #14
WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #17

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 01:06 PM

1. The church website has pulled the 'contact us' page.


Wonder why?




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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 01:08 PM

2. I watched this on Lawrence last night----absolutely chilling!

I live in a progressive area of this state and found myself horrified that such a person in my state would say such medieval rantings. Everyone should watch this in order to better understand evangelical thinking. I can't believe people actually go to his church. He completely lied in his apology.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 01:16 PM

3. Good stuff there Lawrence, BUT...

Just a couple of things- Don't reach for stuff that isn't there. He's given you plenty to work with without having to resort to right wing tactics.

Viz:
The "squashed" comment: It was plain to me that he wasn't saying you should squash your kids. He was saying you should squash the 'aberrant' behavior & nip it in the bud.

The "smell like a girl" comment: Again, taken in context, he's talking about girls who play sports and who are getting too "butch". He's saying you should force them to be more 'feminine' (Obviously his definition of feminine) I understood the "smell like a girl" remark to mean don't be all sweaty from playing sports and wear perfume.

This guy's comments were plenty appalling without resorting to inventing things. We've spent the last couple of months in this forum bashing Rush Limbaugh for doing exactly that. Don't fall into that trap.

On the plus side, this is the first time I've heard that last clip where he's injecting politics into the sermon. Kudos for leaving that in. It takes this thing to a whole new level.

Lastly- everybody listen to the the murmurs of approval from the audience when this clown is giving his sermon. That is maybe as disturbing as anything else in the clip.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #3)

Thu May 3, 2012, 03:25 PM

7. I thought the same thing

I caught the "squashed" part, I missed the smell like a girl part.

I thought why is that necessary? It made me wonder if O'Donnell meant anything he said.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #3)

Fri May 4, 2012, 03:55 AM

12. The "smell like a girl" comment really disgusted me. So what we supposed to do after a hard day

 

on the soccer field, check our armpits! Humm, yep, guess all ok, still smell like a girl. sick asshat! I don't think this comment was taken out of context at all.

quote:
The "smell like a girl" comment: Again, taken in context, he's talking about girls who play sports and who are getting too "butch". He's saying you should force them to be more 'feminine' (Obviously his definition of feminine) I understood the "smell like a girl" remark to mean don't be all sweaty from playing sports and wear perfume.

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #12)

Sun May 6, 2012, 01:29 PM

15. I think you've mistaken my point, so I'll reiterate

The 'talk like a girl walk like a girl etc' remark is indeed offensive -just as the whole tirade is- my issue is that the phrase 'smell like a girl' should be isolated and used to suggest the guy is a pedophile. That's a very serious accusation. In today's climate it's one of the most serious -if not the most serious, depending on how you look at it- things one can be accused of. I would have no trouble believing this guy is a closeted self-hating homosexual. That's become so par for the course with these super right wing gay-bashers it's almost cliché. But I'm going to require more evidence before we start throwing around suggestions of pedophilia. That's not something to be done lightly.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #15)

Sun May 6, 2012, 11:41 PM

18. Thanks for clarifying that, I thought the same regarding the pedophile analogy, very unnatural

 

statement to make and it seemed to me, his delivery, his tone of voice, was full of anger.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #3)

Fri May 4, 2012, 08:44 AM

13. Squash;

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Sorry, your argument fails.

I too took a few notes;

"Crack Wrist"
"Child Abuse"
"As young as 4 years old"
"Squash like a cockroach"
"Special Dispensation"

Again, your argument, "Don't reach for stuff that isn't there." clearly fails.

Sorry!

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Response to greiner3 (Reply #13)

Sun May 6, 2012, 01:36 PM

16. OK, we disagree on our interpretation of what he meant by "squash"

I'll stand by mine. He's using a lot of violent rhetoric, and there's no excuse for that. I just disagree with O'Donnell (and you too, I guess) on what he meant when he said "squashing that like a cockroach". I guess "that" must refer to the son and not the behavior...

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 01:27 PM

4. That's a great example of fascism right there. It's right up there with that speech where the nazi

cocks his gun saying negotiate with that.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 02:15 PM

5. Lawrence O'Donnell's clip PROVES the pastor violated church and state separation. Shouldn't

the IRS be pulling tax exempt status?

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 03:21 PM

6. Who does he want people to vote for?

 

I think Santorum's gone from the list, but I think he still wants Santorum voted in.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 05:49 PM

8. Should Be Ashamed... K&R

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And..Those people in the pews should be ashamed of themselves..!
"A mass of ignorant, humans that herd together
and follow mindlessly."
Definition of People referred to as 'sheep'.

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Response to DianaForRussFeingold (Reply #8)

Thu May 3, 2012, 09:10 PM

9. or Ditto Heads

 

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #9)

Thu May 3, 2012, 09:45 PM

10. That's Exactly what makes hate radio So dangerous!

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 10:18 PM

11. Another unChristian Pseudo-Christian!

And he's obviously homosexual himself. What else is new?

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 12:50 PM

14. By definition

 

Aren't most Pastors a little "ill" with this type of crap? Many shades of gray I know, but...

Plus this idiot got his name plastered all over the internet. How grateful he and his congregation must be.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #14)

Sun May 6, 2012, 01:41 PM

17. He's going through a rough time right now, but I doubt we've heard the last of this guy.

I predict that in the coming months we'll see him on one or more right wing media outlet, whining about how he's being victimized by the International Homosexual Conspiracy. And in time he'll become a hero to the gay-hating crowd, just as Terry Jones did with the Islamophobes.

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